FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

hahaha FUCK I was wrong earlier!!!! Shit!!!!!

Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements WAS NOT the last record without a number 1 vote. This was! I didn't even think this could happen!!

m@tt have i ever told you about how i avoided sicbay for their entire career because i thought they were nu-metal because of the misspelled name?

feel stupid about it now that i have actually heard them. oops.

― Samhain 69 (jjjusten), Friday, May 7, 2010 10:07 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ah man that's too bad! i think you would have loved them live especially...i believe they were sickbay (with the k) for like a year but then some band had the copyright and they already had an album out and didn't want to change it or something like that

dave (the guitarist in sicbay) is now in the yoleus

that said, i don't think they are broken up necessarily, they have done a few shows here and there when the singer is visiting from nyc so you might be able to catch them sometime

Not to derail the proceedings, but since most poll talk originates in polling threads, when are we going to set the 2004-09 poll in motion and who's going to run it?

do we have to?

I meant 2005-09, obvs.

Why should we do a 2005-09 poll instead of polling the whole decade?

because kid zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

EVERYONE SHUSH

4 The Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun (1999 OR 2000 but please don't vote for it in the 00's poll now)
166 points
8 votes
0 first-place votes
Greatest contributor: monster_xero

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo305/lejospopo/newsun.jpg

Actually, the songs on VCN do change, as do the melodic motives. They do so subtly, over time, much like a lot of minimalist pieces and electronic dance music (not to mention krautrock, some of Miles Davis' fusion stuff, Indian classical music, et al). Obv, they are not "songs" in the same sense pop songs are, nor are they lengthy symphonic pieces. By the same token, they are not monolithic. One could argue the beat in thousands of pop songs never changes, yet they are hardly "going nowhere". The beat, in the case of VCN, is mostly rooted in 4-on-the-floor disco pulse, though what happens on top of it is almost constantly changing. And even then, it is the *tempo* which does not change, rather than the beat, as VCN features very clear transitions from disco-oriented pulse to motorik beat (which lines up in tempo, but is an altogether different rhthmic pattern).

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:44 (4 years ago)

I think VCN 'climaxes' at points too, but it's a more subtle climax. A female orgasm to Phish's male one, perhaps?

― Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:05 (4 years ago)

gareth texted me last week saying "download vision creation newsun by the boredoms, no questions, just do it!" btw

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:34 (5 years ago)

Vision Creation Newsun is the greatest record of this generation.

― Lil' Fancy Kpants (ex machina), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:16 (6 years ago)

At some point, it was established we'd follow the 2000-04 poll with a 2005-09 poll and then poll the entire decade somewhere down the line (like, next year). xxxp

yeah a decade poll seems better, but some want a 2004-2009 poll purely to exclude Kid A.
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SHUT UP AND JAM

Thanks for the fresh cover art, plax.

naw, not purely to exclude Kid A, but the early-2000s canon is so established and boring that it would be nice to let the decade's latter half get its shine on for a bit

aw man i woulda voted for that boredoms if i'd known it was eligible. Add 1 point folks!

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

Knew this was a sure thing for the poll.

So happy The Boredoms have monstered the Top 10 you guys

Okay, unfortunately I have to agree with Shakey on the quality of the top 10 so far.

Tuomas that boredoms album is amazing.

Can we something else than "art rock" next, please?

well I dig the Boredoms at least. altho two in the top 10 seems kinda overkill

We can, actually xp

Shakey, it might be a TAD overkill but not many people voted for both!

lol Tuomas the Boredoms are totally dance-y/trance-y especially the period nominated here. bears little to no resemblance to rock (well, krautrock maybe)

^^^otm

Biggest jump of the entire poll between 4 and 3 btw

dunno where that cover image comes from though.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:t0bXE4Si5s4DOM:http://www.albumoftheyear.org/album/covers/vision-creation-newsun.jpg

I think Tuomas doesn't like any kind of the many subgenres of rock. Except maybe for a tiny bit of 70s funk rock.

Shakey, it might be a TAD overkill but not many people voted for both!

― Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, May 7, 2010 10:37 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

woah what if Tad had joined Overkill....think about it.

plaxico made it special just for this here poll. xxp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk4daEiXlE8&feature=related

I dunno, seems like the kinda thing Tuomas would have an affinity for to me

lol Tuomas the Boredoms are totally dance-y/trance-y especially the period nominated here. bears little to no resemblance to rock (well, krautrock maybe)

Okay, since I've never heard any Boredoms, I searched them on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sPxde77NRE

This certainly sounds like "art rock" to me. And if you actually want to dance to this sort of squeaky noise, good luck to you! Just because it has a semi-steady beat doesn't make it dancey.

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r u this boring to go clubbing w/ u dull pedant

People dance to all sorts of music, Tuomas. I'm sick of "dance" music having a monopoly on the name.

I dunno man it seems much more of a piece with the world of techno and dance music than rock to me. it has no guitars. it has no rock rhythms. it has no blues influence, no lyrics/vocals, no formal song structures. I mean what about this is "rock" in any way.

Sure, you can dance to metal or whatever, but I wouldn't call it "dancey".

altho the track you posted is one of the more abrasive ones. Aphex Twin is pretty fucking abrasive tho

xp

http://www.jezebelmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/image/MastersAtWork_TheEssential%20KenLou%20House%20Mixes.jpg

this is all getting a bit geir-like

3 The Breeders - Last Splash (1993)
196 points
7 votes
1 first-place vote
Greatest contributor: Fetchboy

http://onealbumaday.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/the-breeders-last-splash-album-cover.jpg

Too great an album for too many reasons.

I just thought I'd share some love for one of my favourites with all you.

― JesusMaryChain, Sunday, 15 February 2004 21:34 (6 years ago)

I wholly concur with the NME's assessment (from back in the day): "After a few beers, the Breeders are the best band in the world".

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 15 February 2004 23:59 (6 years ago)

i love this album so much... so left-handed, so half-finished, so off the cuff.

― stevie (stevie), Monday, 16 February 2004 16:46 (6 years ago)

every fucking song on this is monstrous.

EVERY FUCKING SONG

― Surmounter, Thursday, 20 September 2007 15:46 (2 years ago)

I think this album as a whole is my favorite female vocal performance, bar none.

― Granny Dainger, Friday, 21 September 2007 06:17 (2 years ago)

damn this is a good album

― stet, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 14:34 (1 year ago)

really it's a pretty much perfect album.

― verhexen, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 16:20 (1 year ago)

Check check check oooooh oooooooh
A oooooh ooooh, a oooooh oooooh, a
oooooh ooooooooh, a ooooooh ooooooh

- a hoy hoy

voted VCN, but...

I think VCN 'climaxes' at points too, but it's a more subtle climax. A female orgasm to Phish's male one, perhaps?

― Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:05 (4 years ago)

YUCK can someone please tell me how to unread this comment...

v surprised two boredoms and autechre. i didn't vote for SR7 or amber.

HAPPY NOW, SHAKEY MO

altho the track you posted is one of the more abrasive ones. Aphex Twin is pretty fucking abrasive tho

Yeah, I pretty much hate all the people who do abrasive electronic music (Aphex included), because to me it sounds like electronic music made for metalheads or rock fans. Whereas the sort of electronic dance music I most love has its roots in disco/funk - it's all about the basslines, the hips. You can't dance to this Boredoms stuff with you hips - it's pogo music, moshing music, no sensuality. There's no sex in it.

I think VCN 'climaxes' at points too, but it's a more subtle climax. A female orgasm to Phish's male one, perhaps?

― Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:05 (4 years ago)

ANYWAY LOOK IT'S THE BREEDERS

THEY DID QUITE WELL DIDN'T THEY

Flipped a coin, decided not to do a Mouse on Mars gag.

I guess it depends on why you buy records. I typically don't dance at home (or at clubs either, for that matter... but I get why people do). I listen to musicians doing musical things. Not saying dance music architects aren't musicians, but the clubby stuff Tuomas tends to prefer doesn't lend itself easily to enjoyment for its own sake outside of a club setting... and that's probably why it doesn't show up in many ALBUM polls.

i really hope aphex twin is #1 lol
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Ah, but that's the reason why I think Autoditacker was their finest hour - when they embraced that abrasive IDM/drill'n'bass sound, they went sour.

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I think there should be a 90s SINGLES poll before a 2000-09/2004-09 poll

but the clubby stuff Tuomas tends to prefer doesn't lend itself easily to enjoyment for its own sake outside of a club setting... and that's probably why it doesn't show up in many ALBUM polls.

Eh? I know loads of people who listen to that sort of stuff at home too (including myself). If you love dance music, you don't want to listen to it only at clubs.