FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

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Yeah, I think I was more fine with the first-place ones as precedent had been established on one of the computer game polls. I doubt anyone will mind much - I usually post mine for perusal at the end anyway.

emil.y, Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Woulda:

1. Tom Waits - Bone Machine (Island) 92
2. Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die (Thrill Jockey) 96
3. Public Enemy - Apocalypse '91...The Enemy Strikes Black (Columbia) 91
4. Laika - Silver Apples Of The Moon (Too Pure) 94
5. Tom Waits - The Black Rider (Island) 93
6. Tortoise (Thrill Jockey) 94
7. Chico Science & Nação Zumbí - Afrociberdelia (Chaos) 96
8. PJ Harvey - Rid Of Me (Island) 93
9. Arto Lindsay - Noon Chill (Bar/None) 98
10. PJ Harvey - Is This Desire? (Island) 98
11. Asian Dub Foundation - Facts And Fictions (Nation) 95
12. Dirty Three (Touch & Go) 95
13. The Breeders - Pod (4AD) 90

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Nice to know I wasn't the only one who voted for Every Man and Woman Is a Star. Cheers, Mike T-Diva!

Tuomas, Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link

some dude and pfunk, i share yer tastes to a point that kind of astounds me

Samhain 69 (jjjusten), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link

also lj email me what album to start w/cardiacs, second song was def more my thing, and currently listening to song three and interested so far. really did not like the first one tho

Samhain 69 (jjjusten), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link

haha ok

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

oh by song three i mean song 4, i dutifully skipped song 2 as u requested

Samhain 69 (jjjusten), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link

in exchange for this delving, i demand that you go listen to some fucking sleepytime gorilla museum you heathen

Samhain 69 (jjjusten), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link

ok def enjoying song 4 quite a bit

Samhain 69 (jjjusten), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

ok yeah this incredible sustained note thing around 6:30 is pure genius. i think i like these peoples

Samhain 69 (jjjusten), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link

No problem with mine being posted. It was an awesome ballot and I'm glad I didn't skew the poll with my own tastes.

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im not surprised jj, not at all!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link

plus jj we are the same age I think

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link

:D you like Dirty Boy! awesome! now listen to that second song, it's cut from the same cloth

sleepytime will be imbibed presently

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:52 (fourteen years ago) link

If I had listed a similar number of albums I, too, would have tons and tons of stuff from both some dude and pfunk. As it is,nobody else voted for any of the ten I did. Serious outlier ballot, as per usual.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link

lol now i'm sort of intrigued to check out the Cardiacs after jj's enthusiastic liveblogging because "sounds like the drummer for the soup dragons backing up a half-assed sparks cover band with the horn section from a midwestern ska band, occasionally joined by a really mediocre kate bush impersonator." was pretty otm how i felt in the first place

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:54 (fourteen years ago) link

LJ - are you NOT listening to sleepytime already?! given your proclivities, that's frankly absurd. get your face wrapped around 'of natural history' this instant.

jjjusten - your nascent cardiacs interest may benefit from this recent Quietus piece: http://thequietus.com/articles/04192-why-a-heart-attack-must-not-arrest-the-cardiacs

m the g, Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:55 (fourteen years ago) link

EZS, yours was the most outlier, I think

OMG, not seen that Quietus piece!!

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:56 (fourteen years ago) link

the monsoon bassoon got 27 points! I am pleased.

m the g, Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:56 (fourteen years ago) link

so mindblowing that End Hits is the only Fugazi record on either of these polls and A Thousand Leaves is the highest Sonic Youth record.

some dude, Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:01 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha yeah I was thinking the choices for those bands were a bit weird

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm kinda interested in what Tuomas thought of my ballot.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll say it again: A Thousand Leaves is SY's best '90s album.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link

i just got back from work but wonderful poll, ya'll! glad plax and rudipherous eclipsed my giving 100 points to a boredoms ep, both in the name of very brave and worthy causes i should add (although i would switch the first and second place albums if i had a hand in the ballot box). also glad there are two boredoms releases in the top ten, totally not overkill imo.

ayo for dyao (samosa gibreel), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Both of those Boredoms albums deserve it, and like I say, they got voted for by different people! I'm a SR7 man but I hang with VCN

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link

lj now you've got over the hassle of actually counting my ballot, and you can distance yourself from such a traumatic experience, what did you think of my choices?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link

you picked a lot of very, very fine albums

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

cheers!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I hope you check out some of the ones you don't know.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I surely will! Rodan especially are a band I'd like to hear. Many of those are on some nebulous wishlist.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link

also Autechre

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:38 (fourteen years ago) link

in my mind/country VCN was released in 2000 so i didn't even think to vote for it here.

some dude, Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I actually had to cut back on my initial shortlist..

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link

VCN had the most votes of any album!

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:44 (fourteen years ago) link

post the top 100 then of albums with most votes (and a full rundown of the original poll from 1-whatever)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link

had I voted, there most certainly would have been a vote for Destroy. Erase. Improve in here

Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 8 May 2010 02:00 (fourteen years ago) link

great poll acoleuthic. thanks for running it!

Captain Ahab, Saturday, 8 May 2010 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link

This is a little late to add, but I wrote a blurb for Muzai Moratorium (Shiina Ringo's debut album), but it consisted too much of adjectives piled on top of one another. Mostly, the appeal seems pretty straightforward to me. I do like the way it pulls together strands of 90s popular music and filters them through a Japanese pop sensibility, although the approach in a few of the songs seems to have more to do with 70s rock and R&B, really. But there is a lot of pop grunge sort of stuff, and I hear "big beat" in parts of "Tsumiki-asobi." For better or worse there is a mainstream female singer-songwriter influence that comes across in "Koko de Kiss Shite," which I can't say I love, though she did write it when she was like 16 or something, winning a song contest with it, which somehow tends to make it more tolerable for me.

Some people (unperson for one) have called her indie-friendly j-pop, and she does tend to lean toward the avant-pop (especially as her career progresses), but I don't hear the vast majority of indie rock bands putting out anything remotely as melodically and rhythmically catchy. I think it's easier to say something about her later work, especially Karuki Zamen Kuri No Hana, which has an air of mystery about it, but the debut is pretty straightforward. Not sure there's much to "get" about it.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 8 May 2010 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks again lj. This was fun.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 8 May 2010 02:43 (fourteen years ago) link

if you throw out all albums from just one person or two-plus votes:

1 ******The Breeders - Last Splash – 196
2 *******The Boredoms – Vision Creation Newsun - 166 points
3 *Cat Power - Moon Pix (165)
4 ****The Boredoms- Super Roots 7 148
5 ***Cardiacs – Sing to God 137
6 ***Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West – 134
7 ****Autechre - Amber - 133 points
8 ******Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... - 126
9 **Oval - 94 Diskont – 122
10 ***Guided By Voices - Alien Lanes - 106
11 *Uncle Tupelo – Anodyne 101
12 *****Stereolab - Transient Random Noise Bursts With Announcements – 95
13 ***The Boo Radleys – Giant Steps 89
14 ******Autechre - LP5 – 87
15 *****the notorious b.i.g. - life after death 87
16 ****Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt – 83
17 *Unrest - Imperial F.F.R.R. 79 Points
18 *Burzum – Filosofem (76 pts)
19 ***Mr. Bungle - Disco Volante – 74
20 ***Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual – 72
21 ****Mobb Deep - The Infamous - 71
22 *Super Furry Animals - Guerrilla – 65
23 ****Wilco – Summerteeth – 62 (TIED)
24 ****Hole - Live Through This – 62 (TIED)
25 ***Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst – 62 (TIED)
26 ***Suede - Dog Man Star – 62 (TIED)
27 ***Mansun - Six - 61
28 *****Slint - Spiderland – 60
29 *Guitar Paradise of East Africa (various, Earthworks) - 60 points (TIED)
30 *Pole - 1 60 (TIED)
31 ******Pavement - Wowee Zowee - 57
32 ***Outkast - ATLiens - 57 (TIED)
33 *Arvo Pärt - Te Deum - 55 points
34 ***Blur 13 54
35 ****Pavement - Brighten The Corners – 52 (TIED)
36 ***REM - Out of Time – 52 (TIED)
37 ***Faith No More - Angel Dust – 51
38 ***Sonic Youth - A Thousand Leaves 48
39 *****Mouse on Mars - Autoditacker 47
40 ***Gas - Königsforst - 44 points (TIED)
41 ***Madonna - Erotica 44 (TIED)
42 **Mr. Bungle – California – 43 (TIED)
43 **THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS – Flood 43 (TIED)
44 ***Aphex Twin - I Care Because You Do - 42
45 *Ol' Dirty Bastard - Return to the 36 Chambers – 41 (TIED)
46 *Lush – Spooky – 41 (TIED)
47 **Sonny Sharrock - Ask the Ages - 40
48 *Palace Music – Lost Blues and Other Songs - 40
49 *Sun City Girls - Torch of the Mystics (39 pts) (TIED)
50 *Earl Brutus-Tonight You are the Special One 39 (TIED)
51 ****R.E.M. – New Adventures In Hi-Fi – 38 (TIED)
52 ***Godspeed You Black Emperor - f#a#° - 38 (TIED)
53 ***Slowdive - Souvlaki - 38 points (TIED)
54 **Sleep – Dopesmoker (38 pts) (TIED)
55 **Electronic - s/t 38 (TIED)
56 **Burger/Ink - Las Vegas – 38 (TIED)
57 *The Auteurs - New Wave – 38 (TIED)
58 *The Divine Comedy – Promenade – 38 (TIED)
59 **A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders – 37 (TIED)
60 **Built to Spill – Keep It Like a Secret – 37 (TIED)
61 *Metallica – Metallica – 37
62 ***2pac - All Eyez on Me – 36 (TIED)
63 ***Mogwai – Mogwai Young Team 36 (TIED)
64 ***Missy Elliott - Da Real World – 36 (TIED)
65 *Biosphere – Substrata – 36 (TIED)
66 *Neil Young Harvest Moon 36 (TIED)
67 ***The Afghan Whigs – Gentlemen – 35
68 **The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I 35
69 ***UGK - Ridin' Dirty – 34
70 ***The Afghan Whigs – Black Love – 33 (TIED)
71 ***pharcyde - bizarre ride II the pharycde 33 (TIED)
72 **Elliott Smith “Either/Or” 33 (TIED)
73 ****Björk – Debut 32 pts (TIED)
74 ***sonic youth - washing machine 32 (TIED)
75 *Woodface - Crowded House – 32 (TIED)
76 *Fugazi – End Hits – 32 (TIED)

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 May 2010 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks for organising this lj - my first ILX superpoll. Got 6/16, which isn't even a pass mark.

Happy about:
- 2*Boredoms in top 10
- ATL beating Dirty
- Tuomas' bitching
- Greens winning Brighton Pavilion
- Space Jam WTF

Sad about:
- No dEUS love (thanks pfunkboy for the solitary support)

Let's do this again some time.

seandalai, Saturday, 8 May 2010 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link

plax one day i will give you a giant fucking hug for the space jam ost. that was pretty much the first record i ever loved and played over and over and over.

also

btw a hoy hoy u suck at life

― el j debarge (The Reverend), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:39 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ty, take it to the sad ilxors thread to see how much.

no, honestly- i don't get the bone thugs thing. its das efx, who were rubbish (fu-shick ok i guess) made a bit soft and westy. anyway, i believe i have been sb by a few on my strong opinions on btah before, maybe even moreso than my lol opinions on abbey road, so lets just let it lie huh?

Happy-
If ever I needed an excuse to listen to Boredoms for the first time this weekend (as if going to fucking boadrum on tuesday were not enough...)
Last Splash! I listened to it all night at work, that record fucking slays me. Do you wish you were here, like I wish I was with you? break my fucking heart why don't you?
Brit-Pop dying a horrible death further up the poll.

Sad-
Fugees legacy really dead huh? :( Seriously people, go back and listen to The Score. It's absolutely unfuckwithable.

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 06:01 (fourteen years ago) link

actually finally listening to the cardigans was not helpful

contenderizer, Saturday, 8 May 2010 06:17 (fourteen years ago) link

but i kinda feel like a jerk for not adding 200 pts to super roots 7

contenderizer, Saturday, 8 May 2010 06:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Sad at low ebb of Gorky's love.

BUT GREAT POLL LJ! WOOOOOOOOOOT!

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Saturday, 8 May 2010 09:09 (fourteen years ago) link

lj are we gonna get to see maybe the next 50 or 100 places after the top 100?

some dude, Saturday, 8 May 2010 12:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Astounded that only one voter went all in. GREAT POLL LJ, thanx!!

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Between 20 and 30 it all gets very arbitrary and cluttered. I could do that but it'd take freaking ages to actually list them.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, if there was still a good spread of points in that region, I would.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Top work acoleuthic....only drawback is lack of Swans. Was certain Soundtracks for the Blind was pretty popular over here.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link

only drawback is lack of Swans.

White Light from the Mouth of Infinity = my #1.

Not that it really matters, since I only gave it a few points, though.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link


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