FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

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Both of those Boredoms albums deserve it, and like I say, they got voted for by different people! I'm a SR7 man but I hang with VCN

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link

lj now you've got over the hassle of actually counting my ballot, and you can distance yourself from such a traumatic experience, what did you think of my choices?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link

you picked a lot of very, very fine albums

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

cheers!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I hope you check out some of the ones you don't know.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I surely will! Rodan especially are a band I'd like to hear. Many of those are on some nebulous wishlist.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link

also Autechre

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:38 (fourteen years ago) link

in my mind/country VCN was released in 2000 so i didn't even think to vote for it here.

some dude, Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I actually had to cut back on my initial shortlist..

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link

VCN had the most votes of any album!

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:44 (fourteen years ago) link

post the top 100 then of albums with most votes (and a full rundown of the original poll from 1-whatever)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link

had I voted, there most certainly would have been a vote for Destroy. Erase. Improve in here

Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 8 May 2010 02:00 (fourteen years ago) link

great poll acoleuthic. thanks for running it!

Captain Ahab, Saturday, 8 May 2010 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link

This is a little late to add, but I wrote a blurb for Muzai Moratorium (Shiina Ringo's debut album), but it consisted too much of adjectives piled on top of one another. Mostly, the appeal seems pretty straightforward to me. I do like the way it pulls together strands of 90s popular music and filters them through a Japanese pop sensibility, although the approach in a few of the songs seems to have more to do with 70s rock and R&B, really. But there is a lot of pop grunge sort of stuff, and I hear "big beat" in parts of "Tsumiki-asobi." For better or worse there is a mainstream female singer-songwriter influence that comes across in "Koko de Kiss Shite," which I can't say I love, though she did write it when she was like 16 or something, winning a song contest with it, which somehow tends to make it more tolerable for me.

Some people (unperson for one) have called her indie-friendly j-pop, and she does tend to lean toward the avant-pop (especially as her career progresses), but I don't hear the vast majority of indie rock bands putting out anything remotely as melodically and rhythmically catchy. I think it's easier to say something about her later work, especially Karuki Zamen Kuri No Hana, which has an air of mystery about it, but the debut is pretty straightforward. Not sure there's much to "get" about it.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 8 May 2010 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks again lj. This was fun.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 8 May 2010 02:43 (fourteen years ago) link

if you throw out all albums from just one person or two-plus votes:

1 ******The Breeders - Last Splash – 196
2 *******The Boredoms – Vision Creation Newsun - 166 points
3 *Cat Power - Moon Pix (165)
4 ****The Boredoms- Super Roots 7 148
5 ***Cardiacs – Sing to God 137
6 ***Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West – 134
7 ****Autechre - Amber - 133 points
8 ******Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... - 126
9 **Oval - 94 Diskont – 122
10 ***Guided By Voices - Alien Lanes - 106
11 *Uncle Tupelo – Anodyne 101
12 *****Stereolab - Transient Random Noise Bursts With Announcements – 95
13 ***The Boo Radleys – Giant Steps 89
14 ******Autechre - LP5 – 87
15 *****the notorious b.i.g. - life after death 87
16 ****Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt – 83
17 *Unrest - Imperial F.F.R.R. 79 Points
18 *Burzum – Filosofem (76 pts)
19 ***Mr. Bungle - Disco Volante – 74
20 ***Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual – 72
21 ****Mobb Deep - The Infamous - 71
22 *Super Furry Animals - Guerrilla – 65
23 ****Wilco – Summerteeth – 62 (TIED)
24 ****Hole - Live Through This – 62 (TIED)
25 ***Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst – 62 (TIED)
26 ***Suede - Dog Man Star – 62 (TIED)
27 ***Mansun - Six - 61
28 *****Slint - Spiderland – 60
29 *Guitar Paradise of East Africa (various, Earthworks) - 60 points (TIED)
30 *Pole - 1 60 (TIED)
31 ******Pavement - Wowee Zowee - 57
32 ***Outkast - ATLiens - 57 (TIED)
33 *Arvo Pärt - Te Deum - 55 points
34 ***Blur 13 54
35 ****Pavement - Brighten The Corners – 52 (TIED)
36 ***REM - Out of Time – 52 (TIED)
37 ***Faith No More - Angel Dust – 51
38 ***Sonic Youth - A Thousand Leaves 48
39 *****Mouse on Mars - Autoditacker 47
40 ***Gas - Königsforst - 44 points (TIED)
41 ***Madonna - Erotica 44 (TIED)
42 **Mr. Bungle – California – 43 (TIED)
43 **THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS – Flood 43 (TIED)
44 ***Aphex Twin - I Care Because You Do - 42
45 *Ol' Dirty Bastard - Return to the 36 Chambers – 41 (TIED)
46 *Lush – Spooky – 41 (TIED)
47 **Sonny Sharrock - Ask the Ages - 40
48 *Palace Music – Lost Blues and Other Songs - 40
49 *Sun City Girls - Torch of the Mystics (39 pts) (TIED)
50 *Earl Brutus-Tonight You are the Special One 39 (TIED)
51 ****R.E.M. – New Adventures In Hi-Fi – 38 (TIED)
52 ***Godspeed You Black Emperor - f#a#° - 38 (TIED)
53 ***Slowdive - Souvlaki - 38 points (TIED)
54 **Sleep – Dopesmoker (38 pts) (TIED)
55 **Electronic - s/t 38 (TIED)
56 **Burger/Ink - Las Vegas – 38 (TIED)
57 *The Auteurs - New Wave – 38 (TIED)
58 *The Divine Comedy – Promenade – 38 (TIED)
59 **A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders – 37 (TIED)
60 **Built to Spill – Keep It Like a Secret – 37 (TIED)
61 *Metallica – Metallica – 37
62 ***2pac - All Eyez on Me – 36 (TIED)
63 ***Mogwai – Mogwai Young Team 36 (TIED)
64 ***Missy Elliott - Da Real World – 36 (TIED)
65 *Biosphere – Substrata – 36 (TIED)
66 *Neil Young Harvest Moon 36 (TIED)
67 ***The Afghan Whigs – Gentlemen – 35
68 **The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I 35
69 ***UGK - Ridin' Dirty – 34
70 ***The Afghan Whigs – Black Love – 33 (TIED)
71 ***pharcyde - bizarre ride II the pharycde 33 (TIED)
72 **Elliott Smith “Either/Or” 33 (TIED)
73 ****Björk – Debut 32 pts (TIED)
74 ***sonic youth - washing machine 32 (TIED)
75 *Woodface - Crowded House – 32 (TIED)
76 *Fugazi – End Hits – 32 (TIED)

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 May 2010 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks for organising this lj - my first ILX superpoll. Got 6/16, which isn't even a pass mark.

Happy about:
- 2*Boredoms in top 10
- ATL beating Dirty
- Tuomas' bitching
- Greens winning Brighton Pavilion
- Space Jam WTF

Sad about:
- No dEUS love (thanks pfunkboy for the solitary support)

Let's do this again some time.

seandalai, Saturday, 8 May 2010 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link

plax one day i will give you a giant fucking hug for the space jam ost. that was pretty much the first record i ever loved and played over and over and over.

also

btw a hoy hoy u suck at life

― el j debarge (The Reverend), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:39 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ty, take it to the sad ilxors thread to see how much.

no, honestly- i don't get the bone thugs thing. its das efx, who were rubbish (fu-shick ok i guess) made a bit soft and westy. anyway, i believe i have been sb by a few on my strong opinions on btah before, maybe even moreso than my lol opinions on abbey road, so lets just let it lie huh?

Happy-
If ever I needed an excuse to listen to Boredoms for the first time this weekend (as if going to fucking boadrum on tuesday were not enough...)
Last Splash! I listened to it all night at work, that record fucking slays me. Do you wish you were here, like I wish I was with you? break my fucking heart why don't you?
Brit-Pop dying a horrible death further up the poll.

Sad-
Fugees legacy really dead huh? :( Seriously people, go back and listen to The Score. It's absolutely unfuckwithable.

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 06:01 (fourteen years ago) link

actually finally listening to the cardigans was not helpful

contenderizer, Saturday, 8 May 2010 06:17 (fourteen years ago) link

but i kinda feel like a jerk for not adding 200 pts to super roots 7

contenderizer, Saturday, 8 May 2010 06:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Sad at low ebb of Gorky's love.

BUT GREAT POLL LJ! WOOOOOOOOOOT!

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Saturday, 8 May 2010 09:09 (fourteen years ago) link

lj are we gonna get to see maybe the next 50 or 100 places after the top 100?

some dude, Saturday, 8 May 2010 12:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Astounded that only one voter went all in. GREAT POLL LJ, thanx!!

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Between 20 and 30 it all gets very arbitrary and cluttered. I could do that but it'd take freaking ages to actually list them.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, if there was still a good spread of points in that region, I would.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Top work acoleuthic....only drawback is lack of Swans. Was certain Soundtracks for the Blind was pretty popular over here.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link

only drawback is lack of Swans.

White Light from the Mouth of Infinity = my #1.

Not that it really matters, since I only gave it a few points, though.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

and i voted for it too

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link

xp I meant in the original rundown. Good work though guys!

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Aw, I thought Stars of the Lid, Cornelius, Don Caballero and Seefeel off my ballot might be ILX-canonical enough to make it (obv not based on my meagre point-awarding).

Should've given my Prolapse points to the same album as emil.y even though the one I picked is obviously the right answer (heh heh). That would've put it in at #69. For a moment I thought that if I had given my Gorky's points to Barafundle and not Bwyd Time it would've made the 100 too, but no, still a point short.

Anyway. 'Sbeen fun. Got a lot of new things to check out based on this, too. Cheers all!

xylyl syzygy (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Cornelius' Fantasma is a fucking incredible album and I seriously considered giving it a point or two

but yeah there's much to delve into now!

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link

rebecca I expect you would like a lot on my ballot

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

yes we get it your ballot is huge and great etc

ours are pretty great too

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Acoleuthic....Pattern is Movement - All Together NOW!!! http://open.spotify.com/album/5gr8qqRHg1Np9KQFL80Knn

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

never ever heard of that

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

but will listen

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

What I said on the 05-09 noms thread.

'Two former math rock dudes recreate English Settlement with drums, bells and loops.'

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Dom Leone is a big fan.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

ok that sounds scientifically engineered to pleasure me

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Also a bit of...this implacable vibe of vintage american pop songwriting...somewhere between The Free Design, Van Dyke Parks and Leonard Bernstein.

If you don't like it it's okay! Will just place high on my ballot along with Parallax error.

Also do you like Godspeed:http://open.spotify.com/album/0o7Khm6Y1jwSXyZZtENzeV

^that album along with Movietone is my genuine favourite new discovery of the year. Maybe it will hit the same sweet spot that Boredoms do.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I have Soundtracks For The Blind. It's pretty good.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

d'oh

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Not sure how high Parallax Error will be on my albums ballot (it MAY figure) but I'm definitely up for putting Until We Die on my tracks ballot

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

My face during the climax of Helpless Child: * *
O

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

GAH that didn't work, more like sand flowing into my bedroom from all the cracks in my door. Horror film catharsis.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Who did you vote for by the way. This was my first UK gen election. I was born in the states so I wrangled an absentee ballot for the US one just after I turned 18 that august.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Helpless Child is completely amazing, best track on that album. Suffocating sound, goth nightmare collapse

What, in the general election? I voted Lib Dem and regretted it a little, although my vote helped push the Tories into 3rd in my constituency, one of only a tiny number of constituencies where they lost ground.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

'Two former math rock dudes recreate English Settlement with drums, bells and loops.' <- sold!

xylyl syzygy (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Hah that's so funny. I voted Labour in mine (Hendon) as it was one of the most likely swings to tory. Andrew Dismore (one of the worst offenders in the expenses scandal) had the seat since 1997, but he lost this time by 100 votes. My parents both voted Tory, which pains me a little. My mother even lied for a bit that she voted labour just to appease me!

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost pattern is movement streatteamin'

My first sessional exam is on Wednesday...so ideally that it was I should be working at the moment. Gotta memorise original old English and translations for The Wanderer and The Dream of the Rood. Yeah! I have enjoyed all the medieval stuff we've done this year.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link


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