FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

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Top work acoleuthic....only drawback is lack of Swans. Was certain Soundtracks for the Blind was pretty popular over here.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link

only drawback is lack of Swans.

White Light from the Mouth of Infinity = my #1.

Not that it really matters, since I only gave it a few points, though.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

and i voted for it too

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link

xp I meant in the original rundown. Good work though guys!

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Aw, I thought Stars of the Lid, Cornelius, Don Caballero and Seefeel off my ballot might be ILX-canonical enough to make it (obv not based on my meagre point-awarding).

Should've given my Prolapse points to the same album as emil.y even though the one I picked is obviously the right answer (heh heh). That would've put it in at #69. For a moment I thought that if I had given my Gorky's points to Barafundle and not Bwyd Time it would've made the 100 too, but no, still a point short.

Anyway. 'Sbeen fun. Got a lot of new things to check out based on this, too. Cheers all!

xylyl syzygy (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Cornelius' Fantasma is a fucking incredible album and I seriously considered giving it a point or two

but yeah there's much to delve into now!

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link

rebecca I expect you would like a lot on my ballot

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

yes we get it your ballot is huge and great etc

ours are pretty great too

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Acoleuthic....Pattern is Movement - All Together NOW!!! http://open.spotify.com/album/5gr8qqRHg1Np9KQFL80Knn

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

never ever heard of that

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

but will listen

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

What I said on the 05-09 noms thread.

'Two former math rock dudes recreate English Settlement with drums, bells and loops.'

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Dom Leone is a big fan.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

ok that sounds scientifically engineered to pleasure me

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Also a bit of...this implacable vibe of vintage american pop songwriting...somewhere between The Free Design, Van Dyke Parks and Leonard Bernstein.

If you don't like it it's okay! Will just place high on my ballot along with Parallax error.

Also do you like Godspeed:http://open.spotify.com/album/0o7Khm6Y1jwSXyZZtENzeV

^that album along with Movietone is my genuine favourite new discovery of the year. Maybe it will hit the same sweet spot that Boredoms do.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I have Soundtracks For The Blind. It's pretty good.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

d'oh

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Not sure how high Parallax Error will be on my albums ballot (it MAY figure) but I'm definitely up for putting Until We Die on my tracks ballot

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

My face during the climax of Helpless Child: * *
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Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

GAH that didn't work, more like sand flowing into my bedroom from all the cracks in my door. Horror film catharsis.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Who did you vote for by the way. This was my first UK gen election. I was born in the states so I wrangled an absentee ballot for the US one just after I turned 18 that august.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Helpless Child is completely amazing, best track on that album. Suffocating sound, goth nightmare collapse

What, in the general election? I voted Lib Dem and regretted it a little, although my vote helped push the Tories into 3rd in my constituency, one of only a tiny number of constituencies where they lost ground.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

'Two former math rock dudes recreate English Settlement with drums, bells and loops.' <- sold!

xylyl syzygy (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Hah that's so funny. I voted Labour in mine (Hendon) as it was one of the most likely swings to tory. Andrew Dismore (one of the worst offenders in the expenses scandal) had the seat since 1997, but he lost this time by 100 votes. My parents both voted Tory, which pains me a little. My mother even lied for a bit that she voted labour just to appease me!

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost pattern is movement streatteamin'

My first sessional exam is on Wednesday...so ideally that it was I should be working at the moment. Gotta memorise original old English and translations for The Wanderer and The Dream of the Rood. Yeah! I have enjoyed all the medieval stuff we've done this year.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Medieval wasn't my strong point, but I wrote a couple of good essays. I forget what about. Think one of them might have been that 'Pearl' thingy.

If I had my vote again I'd vote Green

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

My Spotify keeps freezing but PIM is pretty good so far, very compelling and distinct

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

If you like Pattern Is Movement, I rather suspect you'd like Stars In Battledress. Like, a lot. Imagine something halfway between this and the Sea Nymphs album...

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Wicked, looks like its part of the 'cardiacs family'. Will keep my eye on it.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll try to link you something (and yes, very much part of the family. Have you seen my 'cardiacsy' thread?)

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

What are people's final thoughts on this freeform format? Would it have worked better with any changes?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

It would have worked better with about 20 to 30 more ballots. Other than that I think it worked a dream!

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

MAYBE capping every single-vote album would have worked as well, provided no secret coalitions.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

it was only really the top 2 that made a mockery of it

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Hmmm I was 80% in favour of it...the formalist in me balks at what a (brilliant) clusterfuck it is. It seems more like a rolling list of albums people on ILM are really passionate about; it lacks a sense of 'finality', a genuine testament to a period of music for ILM posters the way other polls and even the alt 70s one do. On the flipside, I am delighted to see Cardiacs and Boredoms so high, and perhaps the list's greatest legacy will be the start of 50 musical love affairs.

xpost I have seen the Cardiacs thread, although I found this huge swath of bands I 'must' hear a little inaccessible. As much as I love them, I like to move my way through their catalogue at a more measured pace, really falling in love with what I have before I move on. PM me something if you like and I will keep it aside.

Also, the Space Jam OST is overdue another listen. It's been a long time, old friend. I wonder if I still have my old cassette tape downstairs. If anything it shows the roots of my 'Ignition - Remix' obsession.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

pfunkboy the #2 made a triumph of it tbh

Hmmm I was 80% in favour of it...the formalist in me balks at what a (brilliant) clusterfuck it is. It seems more like a rolling list of albums people on ILM are really passionate about; it lacks a sense of 'finality', a genuine testament to a period of music for ILM posters the way other polls and even the alt 70s one do. On the flipside, I am delighted to see Cardiacs and Boredoms so high, and perhaps the list's greatest legacy will be the start of 50 musical love affairs.

I didn't intend it to be anything other than a massively unpredictable trawl through semi-obscure 90's awesomeness, of which there is plenty. The aim is discovery, not finality!

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah I was aware (and I admired) your intention. This was a completely great project. The 20% is just some me-bullshit heh.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

#2 was a perfect pick tbh. So nineties, so adored by rap and r&b fans of a certain age, so needed just 1 person to remind everyone how much they love it.

Don't know about #1 but seeing it made me smile. Shocked nothing got 200+ points though, I assumed a 200 pointer would make like top 10 but not win the whole thing.

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

*aware OF

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost I like rap and r+b a whole lot, but for me personally it prefigured my love for this totally upbeat sampledelic unclassifiable stuff, see The Avalanches, Paul's Boutique, The KLF, Public Enemy.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

For um...socialogical reasons I would love to actually rewatch Space Jam again and see what I make of it. Maybe if I have children some day.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

davek- try cuban linx! rza's beats are a haven for the sampledelic.

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

guess not 'upbeat' tho.

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

It seems more like a rolling list of albums people on ILM are really passionate about; it lacks a sense of 'finality', a genuine testament to a period of music for ILM posters...

― Davek (davek_00)

love the personal/passionate, have no use for taste by committee. therefore, love the format. wish all open-ended polls were so open-ended.

contenderizer, Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^this is kinda how I roll

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost love Cuban Linx, way ahead of ya. That record's appeal for me comes from the words + head-nod beats rather than 'dropping samples' like in Sounds of Science and Close to You. I talked a bit in the Paul's Abbey thread about this. Off topic, but why the hell was Weingarten banned permanently, I really liked him. ILM is all about colourful, opinionated personalities, unless there was something I missed that he said. I personally wasn't that miffed by the 'ba-na-na' talk.

Oh well outnumbered on the personal vs committee. I just really dig how something like Discovery for the 00s can be rallied around as this great consensus pick. (Underside is continued lionisation of things like Kid A over and over and over again).

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

if there was a total 00's poll right now, Kid A would not finish in the top 10

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe not even top 20

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

whiney got 102d? daaaamn.

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

if there was a total 00's poll right now, Kid A would not finish in the top 10

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would you like to bet on that?

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link


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