FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

d'oh

Not sure how high Parallax Error will be on my albums ballot (it MAY figure) but I'm definitely up for putting Until We Die on my tracks ballot

My face during the climax of Helpless Child: * *
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GAH that didn't work, more like sand flowing into my bedroom from all the cracks in my door. Horror film catharsis.

Who did you vote for by the way. This was my first UK gen election. I was born in the states so I wrangled an absentee ballot for the US one just after I turned 18 that august.

Helpless Child is completely amazing, best track on that album. Suffocating sound, goth nightmare collapse

What, in the general election? I voted Lib Dem and regretted it a little, although my vote helped push the Tories into 3rd in my constituency, one of only a tiny number of constituencies where they lost ground.

'Two former math rock dudes recreate English Settlement with drums, bells and loops.' <- sold!

Hah that's so funny. I voted Labour in mine (Hendon) as it was one of the most likely swings to tory. Andrew Dismore (one of the worst offenders in the expenses scandal) had the seat since 1997, but he lost this time by 100 votes. My parents both voted Tory, which pains me a little. My mother even lied for a bit that she voted labour just to appease me!

xpost pattern is movement streatteamin'

My first sessional exam is on Wednesday...so ideally that it was I should be working at the moment. Gotta memorise original old English and translations for The Wanderer and The Dream of the Rood. Yeah! I have enjoyed all the medieval stuff we've done this year.

Medieval wasn't my strong point, but I wrote a couple of good essays. I forget what about. Think one of them might have been that 'Pearl' thingy.

If I had my vote again I'd vote Green

My Spotify keeps freezing but PIM is pretty good so far, very compelling and distinct

If you like Pattern Is Movement, I rather suspect you'd like Stars In Battledress. Like, a lot. Imagine something halfway between this and the Sea Nymphs album...

Wicked, looks like its part of the 'cardiacs family'. Will keep my eye on it.

I'll try to link you something (and yes, very much part of the family. Have you seen my 'cardiacsy' thread?)

What are people's final thoughts on this freeform format? Would it have worked better with any changes?

It would have worked better with about 20 to 30 more ballots. Other than that I think it worked a dream!

MAYBE capping every single-vote album would have worked as well, provided no secret coalitions.

it was only really the top 2 that made a mockery of it

Hmmm I was 80% in favour of it...the formalist in me balks at what a (brilliant) clusterfuck it is. It seems more like a rolling list of albums people on ILM are really passionate about; it lacks a sense of 'finality', a genuine testament to a period of music for ILM posters the way other polls and even the alt 70s one do. On the flipside, I am delighted to see Cardiacs and Boredoms so high, and perhaps the list's greatest legacy will be the start of 50 musical love affairs.

xpost I have seen the Cardiacs thread, although I found this huge swath of bands I 'must' hear a little inaccessible. As much as I love them, I like to move my way through their catalogue at a more measured pace, really falling in love with what I have before I move on. PM me something if you like and I will keep it aside.

Also, the Space Jam OST is overdue another listen. It's been a long time, old friend. I wonder if I still have my old cassette tape downstairs. If anything it shows the roots of my 'Ignition - Remix' obsession.

pfunkboy the #2 made a triumph of it tbh

Hmmm I was 80% in favour of it...the formalist in me balks at what a (brilliant) clusterfuck it is. It seems more like a rolling list of albums people on ILM are really passionate about; it lacks a sense of 'finality', a genuine testament to a period of music for ILM posters the way other polls and even the alt 70s one do. On the flipside, I am delighted to see Cardiacs and Boredoms so high, and perhaps the list's greatest legacy will be the start of 50 musical love affairs.

I didn't intend it to be anything other than a massively unpredictable trawl through semi-obscure 90's awesomeness, of which there is plenty. The aim is discovery, not finality!

Yeah I was aware (and I admired) your intention. This was a completely great project. The 20% is just some me-bullshit heh.

#2 was a perfect pick tbh. So nineties, so adored by rap and r&b fans of a certain age, so needed just 1 person to remind everyone how much they love it.

Don't know about #1 but seeing it made me smile. Shocked nothing got 200+ points though, I assumed a 200 pointer would make like top 10 but not win the whole thing.

*aware OF

xpost I like rap and r+b a whole lot, but for me personally it prefigured my love for this totally upbeat sampledelic unclassifiable stuff, see The Avalanches, Paul's Boutique, The KLF, Public Enemy.

For um...socialogical reasons I would love to actually rewatch Space Jam again and see what I make of it. Maybe if I have children some day.

davek- try cuban linx! rza's beats are a haven for the sampledelic.

guess not 'upbeat' tho.

It seems more like a rolling list of albums people on ILM are really passionate about; it lacks a sense of 'finality', a genuine testament to a period of music for ILM posters...

― Davek (davek_00)

love the personal/passionate, have no use for taste by committee. therefore, love the format. wish all open-ended polls were so open-ended.

^^^this is kinda how I roll

xpost love Cuban Linx, way ahead of ya. That record's appeal for me comes from the words + head-nod beats rather than 'dropping samples' like in Sounds of Science and Close to You. I talked a bit in the Paul's Abbey thread about this. Off topic, but why the hell was Weingarten banned permanently, I really liked him. ILM is all about colourful, opinionated personalities, unless there was something I missed that he said. I personally wasn't that miffed by the 'ba-na-na' talk.

Oh well outnumbered on the personal vs committee. I just really dig how something like Discovery for the 00s can be rallied around as this great consensus pick. (Underside is continued lionisation of things like Kid A over and over and over again).

if there was a total 00's poll right now, Kid A would not finish in the top 10

maybe not even top 20

whiney got 102d? daaaamn.

if there was a total 00's poll right now, Kid A would not finish in the top 10

― Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:56 (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

would you like to bet on that?

I don't really enjoy Radiohead these days, but Kid A is a perfectly passable album and I get why people are really into it. Just can't bear it being kept off top spots by the 00s real champion: Discovery!

no. sometimes i say things. xp

(Max Tundra's MBGATE is maybe my 00s no 1 but it just makes me delighted that Discovery (top five for me?) is regarded as one of the best albums of the 00s)

I'd have even odds on Discovery winning the poll

No comments on Whiney, people? Or is that a no-go area. Just curious is all.

I don't really enjoy Radiohead these days, but Kid A is a perfectly passable album and I get why people are really into it. Just can't bear it being kept off top spots by the 00s real champion: Discovery!The Wraith: Shangri-La!

― Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:58 (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

davek- i assume we all cacked out on talking about sb and will welcome whiney back in time for amazon to hopefully have sent me his nations of millions book already.

What is the Wraith - Shangri-La. Is that what you guys were chatting about cryptically on the other thread? Might I like it?

Seriously I wonder what an ILM no 1 for the 00s would be. It will be interesting. I agree we should wait a little before polling. At least give the 05-09 some space.

I need to start working on my Ulver hustings

sorry, lolicp references that don't directly ref fukkin magnets seem to go over ppls heads still.

3. stankonia
2. discovery
1. kid a

calling it now, 2000 will beat every other year.

is Stankonia really that good? i.e. will I like it? haha

1. yes, it really is
2. well do you like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=888o1-yi_yk because if you dont then you are geir

Stankonia is uneven, like all Outkast post Atliens, but some absolutely killer moments. Do you like Parliament/Funkadelic or Prince? That's a good litmus test.

Humble Mumble came up on shuffle as I was walking into uni yesterday and I felt like breakdancing down the street.

B.O.B. is jawdropping. Brothers Gonna Work It Out by Public Enemy pt. 2.

Certain that the guitar solo in the outkast song about midway through is a direct homage.

It seems like the proggiest rap album ever made? I mean this in an ott, colourful, anything goes (even in the same song you could end up w/ like 30 different elements working seemlessly) kinda way w/ solos and shit. So yeah maybe P-Funk more than prog...