FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

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xpost I like rap and r+b a whole lot, but for me personally it prefigured my love for this totally upbeat sampledelic unclassifiable stuff, see The Avalanches, Paul's Boutique, The KLF, Public Enemy.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

For um...socialogical reasons I would love to actually rewatch Space Jam again and see what I make of it. Maybe if I have children some day.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

davek- try cuban linx! rza's beats are a haven for the sampledelic.

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

guess not 'upbeat' tho.

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

It seems more like a rolling list of albums people on ILM are really passionate about; it lacks a sense of 'finality', a genuine testament to a period of music for ILM posters...

― Davek (davek_00)

love the personal/passionate, have no use for taste by committee. therefore, love the format. wish all open-ended polls were so open-ended.

contenderizer, Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^this is kinda how I roll

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost love Cuban Linx, way ahead of ya. That record's appeal for me comes from the words + head-nod beats rather than 'dropping samples' like in Sounds of Science and Close to You. I talked a bit in the Paul's Abbey thread about this. Off topic, but why the hell was Weingarten banned permanently, I really liked him. ILM is all about colourful, opinionated personalities, unless there was something I missed that he said. I personally wasn't that miffed by the 'ba-na-na' talk.

Oh well outnumbered on the personal vs committee. I just really dig how something like Discovery for the 00s can be rallied around as this great consensus pick. (Underside is continued lionisation of things like Kid A over and over and over again).

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

if there was a total 00's poll right now, Kid A would not finish in the top 10

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe not even top 20

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

whiney got 102d? daaaamn.

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

if there was a total 00's poll right now, Kid A would not finish in the top 10

― Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:56 (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

would you like to bet on that?

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't really enjoy Radiohead these days, but Kid A is a perfectly passable album and I get why people are really into it. Just can't bear it being kept off top spots by the 00s real champion: Discovery!

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

no. sometimes i say things. xp

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

(Max Tundra's MBGATE is maybe my 00s no 1 but it just makes me delighted that Discovery (top five for me?) is regarded as one of the best albums of the 00s)

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd have even odds on Discovery winning the poll

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

No comments on Whiney, people? Or is that a no-go area. Just curious is all.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't really enjoy Radiohead these days, but Kid A is a perfectly passable album and I get why people are really into it. Just can't bear it being kept off top spots by the 00s real champion: Discovery!The Wraith: Shangri-La!

― Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:58 (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

davek- i assume we all cacked out on talking about sb and will welcome whiney back in time for amazon to hopefully have sent me his nations of millions book already.

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

What is the Wraith - Shangri-La. Is that what you guys were chatting about cryptically on the other thread? Might I like it?

Seriously I wonder what an ILM no 1 for the 00s would be. It will be interesting. I agree we should wait a little before polling. At least give the 05-09 some space.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I need to start working on my Ulver hustings

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry, lolicp references that don't directly ref fukkin magnets seem to go over ppls heads still.

3. stankonia
2. discovery
1. kid a

calling it now, 2000 will beat every other year.

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

is Stankonia really that good? i.e. will I like it? haha

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link

1. yes, it really is
2. well do you like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=888o1-yi_yk because if you dont then you are geir

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Stankonia is uneven, like all Outkast post Atliens, but some absolutely killer moments. Do you like Parliament/Funkadelic or Prince? That's a good litmus test.

Humble Mumble came up on shuffle as I was walking into uni yesterday and I felt like breakdancing down the street.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

B.O.B. is jawdropping. Brothers Gonna Work It Out by Public Enemy pt. 2.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Certain that the guitar solo in the outkast song about midway through is a direct homage.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

It seems like the proggiest rap album ever made? I mean this in an ott, colourful, anything goes (even in the same song you could end up w/ like 30 different elements working seemlessly) kinda way w/ solos and shit. So yeah maybe P-Funk more than prog...

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

(I said Stank not because it is awes tho but because bob won the pitchfork singles poll and that'll make it easier for indie boys to put in w/ their wilco or whatever.)

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

DefJux = probably Rap's equivalent of Prog.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Seriously two genres of music that haven't been hybridised yet: rap + prog. Although, did you guys catch that Pink Floyd (doubtful prog credentials and all) rap beats album?

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

i said mainstream! oh wait no i didn't. i meant to. proggiest mainstream rap album.

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

No. How fucking horrible was it like every other [classic rock act] + [no name beat maker wants to be written up in Q/Mojo] album?

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

See for yourself. Pretty amusing/entertaining (if not *good*) actually:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66ooR_0oWd4&feature=player_embedded

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Chipmunk soul Clare Tory!

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't listen to PF these days but I always loved this song. The chord sequence is so so lovely.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Have definitely been getting into Def Jux/Edan/cLOUDDEAD much, MUCH more readily than mainstream hip-hop :/

(Currently compiling noms for 05-09 thread, sorry to have missed all this - will rescreen BOB in a jiffy...)

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I do like Prince, fwiw

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Saturday, 8 May 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Spotify playlist (MANY omissions, but better than nothing)

mike t-diva, Sunday, 9 May 2010 11:03 (fourteen years ago) link

weird i coulda swore i voted for rae, oh well, made it high anyway...
in retrospect i would have put more than like 10 mins into my ballot

but...

GREAT POLL

kudos, lj. really fun thread IMO

the Rob Based god (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 10 May 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

and

i can't think of another poll in ILX history that's had me excited to check out more albums that i have never heard

the Rob Based god (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 10 May 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

On my short-list to check out (all albums I haven't heard yet, for one reason or another):

12 **Oval - 94 Diskont – 122
19 *****the notorious b.i.g. - life after death 87
38 *Pole - 1 60 (TIED)
92 ***pharcyde - bizarre ride II the pharycde 33 (TIED)
98 *Woodface - Crowded House – 32 (TIED)

Repurchased for $2.99, haven't listened since high school era:

29 ***Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual – 72

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 10 May 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't think of another poll in ILX history that's had me excited to check out more albums that i have never heard

thanks!!! not to blow my own trumpet but you guys have given me plenty to listen to as well. the poll's entire premise is that the 90's were freaking awesome (like, more so than you might think if you idly mused on 'the 90's' as a musical decade) and it's lived up to that premise with honours

coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 10 May 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah. Definitely my fav music poll so far on ilx. Great job. The miscalculations only made it better.

Fetchboy, Monday, 10 May 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link

the miscalculations cancelled each other out in the end tbh

coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 10 May 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

this is without a doubt my favorite of all the ILX results threads. nobody was complaining, and these albums are sick.

billstevejim, Monday, 10 May 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

might do some additional analysis in a bit

coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 10 May 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

'most Greatest Contributor:'

coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 10 May 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

'most pulled quotes' (this will be won by H3lgeson)

coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 10 May 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

etc

coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 10 May 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, brilliant work lj. I'm more of a consensus effort man myself than one for the crazily all-over-the-place rundown, but this was every bit as much fun - and your #2 gave me the best laugh ever, when I realised it was for real.

One thing I think it really shows is how important it is that people actually get the fingers out and vote in these things. Each one really does make a difference, y'know?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 10 May 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link


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