Janelle Monae

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I like "Wondaland" a lot.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 13 May 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link

at first i was convinced i only liked the first half, but after every listen i'm starting to like more and more beyond the halfway mark.

borntohula, Thursday, 13 May 2010 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Yep, definitely feeling it more second time round. Like how II is all rocky and III is all weird. The production could be beefier, though.

jabba hands is cool (chap), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Dammit, shouldn't have used ILX on Jabba Hands' computer!

Jabba hands is an arse (chap), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

album is a bit long but wow. i want to marry this woman.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I am really hearing a "Clair de Lune" quote at the end of "Say You'll Go," right? But those rising choral voices, aren't they something out of a 1940s Hollywood soundtrack?

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 17 May 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Part of "Locked Inside" reminds me of "Golden Lady."

Yes! I was listening to this while washing the dishes in the other room, so only half paying attention, but I was like, "Is that...?"

jaymc, Monday, 17 May 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

The last two tracks are my favorites at this point.

Also, since I'm still very new to her, I find myself repeatedly struck by how good her singing is. I like this: Janelle Monae (or perhaps android alter-ego Cindi Mayweather) has received many accolades for her unique personal style and stage show, but not enough acclaim for the strength and versatility of her singing voice.http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/alternatives/archive/2010/05/18/22225030.aspx

(I'm a little surprised this thread is not busier. Maybe others are smart enough to wait until they've had more time to sort through the album.)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

still need to really crack the album

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Tunes that I've grown to like quite a bit:

Dance or Die
Faster
Tightrope
Oh, Maker
Come Alive
Make the Bus
Wondaland
Say You'll Go

I think it was a bit of a mistake to give the first three songs proper the same pace and make them run into each other - more of a mid-album trick. At the start it lulls you into nodding off a bit.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

ha, the r&b acute is totally like the metal umlaut

<3 this post

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Her choice of electric guitar sounds tends to be a bit banal, but what I'm finding is that most of the time there's enough redundancy built into the music that I can look over the parts I don't like. (Most skip-able songs for me: probably Come Alive and Take the Bus.)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Make the Bus. (Make the bus, take the bus, whatever.)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

the occasional orchestral swoons and production idiosyncracies remind me somehow of st. vincent.

establishment man cloggin up ur spills (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think the album is very good at all.

rennavate, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it was a bit of a mistake to give the first three songs proper the same pace and make them run into each other - more of a mid-album trick. At the start it lulls you into nodding off a bit.

i found a problem with that too, but more as an issue of pacing. it didn't make me nod off, but it made me think that the album was going to be a lot more funky than it is.

borntohula, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link

if those three were placed in the middle like you suggested, then they'd work more like a well-needed burst of energy.

borntohula, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm voting yes so far.

T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 04:19 (thirteen years ago) link

that letterman performance was awesome.

borntohula, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Enjoy everything I've heard from this album so far. Gonna pick up the CD today.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

that cramps psychobilly raveup in the middle was sorta 0_0 for me.

establishment man cloggin up ur spills (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the way the similarly paced tracks flowing into one another kick off the beginning of the album. I think it works just fine.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

i thought the performance was pretty great considering the lack of big boi. i was wondering how much his involvement effected my enjoyment, and its safe to say that i like it just as much without him. that rave up part was cool, and the nod to james brown (which one?!) was also great. there was lots of energy in the room, and it sounded great. i'm a bit surprised dave didn't ask her to play again, like he did with these folks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds3yl7YjVyM

borntohula, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

wow i said great a lot

borntohula, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

its been interesting listening to this alongside FanMail (due to the listening club). for all the android next level future stuff, monae's album has a kinda of retroism to it. like right now im listening to 'locked inside' and that guitar line sounds like it could have been pulled off something from 35 years ago. whereas its the tlc album that obv has that real metalic sound that youd expect to hear on album about androids or whatever

killahpriest (/\/K/\/\), Thursday, 20 May 2010 04:46 (thirteen years ago) link

i gave up on the idea that i might like this album when i read this

Monáe describes The ArchAndroid as an "emotion picture,"

jonathan blapelbon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 07:09 (thirteen years ago) link

also

Its most recent antecedent is André 3000's The Love Below

jonathan blapelbon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 07:10 (thirteen years ago) link

only listened to it once so far but not really being moved to listen again. so busy and hyperactive, but in a kinda annoying attention-seeking way.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 20 May 2010 08:45 (thirteen years ago) link

somebody was just telling me last night that Matt loved this album; makes sense given his taste. I really need to give it a serious go.

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 20 May 2010 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

the occasional orchestral swoons and production idiosyncracies remind me somehow of st. vincent.

― establishment man cloggin up ur spills (Hunt3r), Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:32 PM (2 days ago)

I was just listening to this album for the first time when Sir Greendown came on it made me think of St. Vincent so much, no bad thing at all.

Yeah I am really loving this album on first listen. I was totally smitten after the Letterman performance.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 20 May 2010 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link

ya i was curious what its pitchfork score would be...i have a few hipsterish friends who normally dont touch pop/r&b who have been all over this

killahpriest (/\/K/\/\), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link

which is cool of course except when they tell me that janelle monae isn't pop/r&b

killahpriest (/\/K/\/\), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:05 (thirteen years ago) link

basically the last opinion i'd ever look to read about this album would be coming from a fiery furnaces stan, so thanks 4 making that happen pitchfork.

r|t|c, Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Its most recent antecedent is André 3000's The Love Below

Oh good lord no. I listened to the first two tracks and thought it kind of overwrought but promised to go back. I still will, but I find that whole approach massively offputting.

Matt DC, Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:07 (thirteen years ago) link

"Monáe's sci-fi mythology is an inspired addition to the rich canon of Afrofuturist art"

!!!!!!

Matt DC, Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i have a few hipsterish friends who normally dont touch pop/r&b who have been all over this

no 1 DING DING DING warning bell in my book - as a litmus test it's never wrong

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Its most recent antecedent is André 3000's The Love Below

My first thought too. It's failed eclecticism.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh no. Oh no, I'm not gonna read a Pitchfork review which is gonna make me hate on something I would otherwise normally be all over.

Is this out? Or rather, is this out in the UK? HMV only had Metropolis when I went to look for it last night.

The Curve Of Blinding Energy (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:15 (thirteen years ago) link

xp i feel like for the next 25 years any time a black artist makes an ambitious, genre-crossing album its going to be compared with the The Love Below. perhaps not incorrectly in this case, but its a comparison thats not necessarily indicative of quality

killahpriest (/\/K/\/\), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

the comparisons are more due to monae's attention-seeking consciously kooky image, surely? black artists make "ambitious, genre-crossing" albums quite a lot - i don't even feel like sonically this album IS that ambitious or genre-crossing, as noted above it's really retro in a pretty straightforward way (general concept apart)

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i have a few hipsterish friends who normally dont touch pop/r&b who have been all over this

Always a bad sign.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Eclecticism need not mean ambition.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link

So, this album isn't as immediately involving as I thought it would be, but I do feel like a lot of the naysaying is premature. It's okay if this isn't the best album in the world; it's still pretty enjoyable and Janelle is like massively, scarily talented.

Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Is this out? Or rather, is this out in the UK? HMV only had Metropolis when I went to look for it last night.

― The Curve Of Blinding Energy (Masonic Boom), Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:15 PM (12 minutes ago)

Play has this listed as coming out on July 12th. I'm already searching for the cheapest way to import it.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Genre-bouncing antecedents released after The Love Below: albums by Jazmine Sullivan, VV Brown, Van Hunt, PlantLife, YahZarah, Me'Shell Ndegéocello, (maybe) the Rebel Yell, etc., etc., etc.

Skank Bloc Polonia (Andy K), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

ambition wasn't the right word (although i do think this album is ambitious). but this type of NEXT LEVEL r&b/hip-hop music is going to be compared to TLB whether its good or bad

killahpriest (/\/K/\/\), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

b.o.b's album being an example of the latter

killahpriest (/\/K/\/\), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

ya my point is that this album is way closer to jazmine sullivan than andre 3k, but how many reviews are gonna mention the former and how many the latter

killahpriest (/\/K/\/\), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa, this is a disco musical. Erykah on Glee.
TONS of interpolations/ripoffs/homages throughout; this feels really personal
still can't tell if I'm enjoying it, but it's such a jittery puppy of an album in a lookatmeLOOKATME! way. I love tightrope tho' so willing to give this more than just one full listen to get me.

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:41 (thirteen years ago) link


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