The End Of Music. And Moby. And Moby Music.

Yeah, the tone of that over the last few years in particular in various corners has been wearying. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater in saying all chart music sucks is ridiculous, but similarly the encomiums of "Gee top 40's the most democratic and truly best thing around for reflecting the popular mood" = haha, you make me laugh.

Tim, unsurprisingly, summed up the best attitude when he noted that one can like something that's in the charts rather than liking something *because* it's in the charts.

Unsubstantiated generalizations give me gas. Also: meet the new old boss; he wears glasses, talks a lot, and is very "sensitive" and "meaningful", but is really no more than a lateral move from the supersized teenypoppers (unless one can spin Play as the barnstormer that allowed producer-led pop polyglotism to become the Billboard lingua franca) (& even then, once you go pop, you are pop; welcome to the machine, here's your Grammy).

[xpost w/ what Mike H said]

Otherwise, what Scott sez. Except I love everyone. Scott, too! (Even though the thread title's too short.)

that said, mileage may vary

ahahahahaha!

god that cover was dreadful....also: His fucking sludgy shitty Joy Division cover that mars the otherwise perfect 24 Hour Party People soundtrack....that pissed me off just cuz that soundtrack is so fucking great with that one exception....it's like he took a dump on the floor in the middle of the Louvre or something.

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My memory is that it was a minor hit in the UK, ie reaching no. 20 or something like that.

Wait, "Temptation" or "Blue Monday"?

Because it's wrong? Moby's released at least three interesting albums.

Because it's wrong? Moby's released at least three interesting albums.

-- The Ghost of Dan Perry

That's beside the point. I don't even like Moby. But Sanneh obviously likes Play, and doesn't like what came after. Alls I'm sayin' is that it's a stretch to go from that to sweeping statements about traditional vs. non-traditional music celebs.

A) Play's always struck me as a perfectly good pop record that kind of commodified My Life In the Bush of Ghosts' innovations 18 years after the fact. And that's fine, pleasing even, if not exactly revolutionary.

B) It's hardly surprising that his pop music has gone into the shitter — until Play, the guy was never much of a pop artist anyway.

C) I haven't paid close enough attention to know whether he was making some statement or not, but the "end run" and the licensing blitz came off more crafty than crass or anything. Those who found it really appalling always seem to be under the impression pop music still has some integrity left. Please tell me if I'm wrong here...

that said, I'm disappointed that he didn't dedicate a blog entry to the review.

I..... don't know what to say about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VASywEuqFd8

a late entry for this thread ?

S/D: Mid-to-late-'90s alt-rock-electronic-ish stuff that was probably on a soundtrack somewhere and is now severely out of taste but that I love

In the late 1990's, Moby wasn't yet an ideology or a brand name or even a pop star.

He was just a soft-spoken music geek, and he seemed likely to spend his career enjoying the kind of underground fame that might ordinarily attach to a punk rocker turned electronica producer turned eclecticist.

Yes, the "underground fame" of having at least 6 top 40 hits (Go, Hymn, Move, Feeling So Real, Everytime You Touch Me, his version of the James Bond theme) and, unlike almost every other electronic music producer of that era, having his face on the cover of his every album and appearing in all his music videos.

But I guess you aren't really famous unless you're famous in the USA?

http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/dvdboxart/22544/p22544_d_v8_aa.jpg

And pre-Play Moby ruled

having his face on the cover of his every album

ha ha :D

these new moby songs are extremely confusing

nine inch moby

rip moby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WywzWjZATKA

most of moby's music is not very good and much of it is bad but I will stan for everything is wrong forever and bc of that album and moby's general way of being I will always kind of like him

"Everything Is Wrong" was good, yeah, iirc, but "God Moves Over the Face of the Water">>whatever else is on that record.

His memoir is supposed to be pretty good.

this was a really good read (account of the Aphex Twin/Orbital/Moby U.S. tour from the guy hired to be Moby's fake keyboard player):

http://inthemix.junkee.com/my-1993-rave-adventure-with-moby/19934
http://inthemix.junkee.com/how-i-survived-americas-first-ever-rave-tour/20112

and this is a very entertaining thing based around the guy who lent Moby those Alan Lomax cds: https://gimletmedia.com/episode/2-gregor/

i totally understand the hate moby incites,
however, i cannot help it, i have a lot of time for moby.
whenever i see him interviewed he seems like a really decent chap that i would love to have a few drinks with.
oh, and despite the overuse of certain presets, he has tunes.
simple as that.
re this new album : i will totally buy it when fopp have it for a fiver.