Battlestar Galactica Revival

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Counter-example, however - Star Trek Voyager - weak-ass, tacked-on, convoluted ending due to waning ratings.

schwantz, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

that one sucked from the beginning

latebloomer, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Indeed it did. However, I think you may mean Star Trek: Enterprise, which was even worse (but actually was cut short at four years instead of going the seven allotted to TNG, DS9 and even the foetid Voyager.)

Oilyrags, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Enterprise was downright blasphemous in its suckitude

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:26 (sixteen years ago) link

at least it was attempting something different. voyager was just bland.

latebloomer, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link

predship

cutty, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link

gornship

Oilyrags, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link

"predship"

ouch! lol

latebloomer, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I just meant the bit where Voyager finally makes it home. Maybe it wasn't due to bad ratings, but it jut felt wrong (and managed to work in some lame time-travel angle too). I like the idea of the writers at least having some idea of where a show is going, rather than just figuring it out as they go (see - or rather DON'T SEE - : the last few seasons of 24).

schwantz, Saturday, 2 June 2007 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link

omg i just watched the episode where there's the virus, and then sharon puts the wire in her wrist and then they build and ship and name it after the president and and omg

cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

bit of a tearjerker that one

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I vaguely remember the wrist thing.

Drooone, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link

just watched season one and first ep of season two

occasionally think bits are stupid (getting away from baddies easily, usually) or the typical having difficulty not thinking about "earth" stuff appearing in "alien" culture but do manage to forget about it, mostly. a couple of devices that I think, were they described to me, I might have thought "that will be bad and annoying" I have been able to almost not mind. wonder about the weird, shakey, zooming camerawork and lens flare in completely CGI scenes. the bit at the start, where they have the drums over bits from the ep you're about to watch, is annoying, too. on the whole, I think it's really pretty good

RJG, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link

not thinking about "earth" stuff appearing in "alien" culture

waht this is not an alien culture

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link

but they have earthly stuff plus check out my inverted commas

RJG, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link

bit of a tearjerker that one

totally!

also rjg, stick with it, it only gets better

cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

what do you mean - that they all look like humans? that they have names similar to ancient earth cultures? that they developed telephones? I don't get it... I mean its made rather sledgehammer-obvious that the colonies' cultures are precursors/contemporaries of earth's.

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

like why wouldn't you expect them to develop pants and whiskey and poker chips and have dogs for pets

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link

precursors?

cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link

(and actually while I really enjoy it I'm not sure I would say it gets better - the miniseries has yet to be topped imho)

yeah precursors like they had their thing going and then a colony got lost and left for earth - are you sure you're watching this show?

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link

in old battlestar there was the line "some say life here began out there"

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link

i never got the impression that this was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, i thought it was the future

i'm only halfway through season two though

cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost - but it's not actually made entirely clear in this series that this is what's going on, nor that it's not way in the future anyway

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link

and when i said it only gets better, all i know is up to the tearjerker i said i just watched upthread, remember?

cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm really glad a friend of mine has all my battlestar cds b/c i wld watch that ep right now without hesistation and i have lots of work to do

rjg your inverted commas are really great

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:43 (sixteen years ago) link

okay sorry didn't mean to spoil anything - rrobyn is nevertheless correct that the chronology is left ambiguous

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

apology not accepted

cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

*cries*

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link

sledgehammer-ambiguous

jeff, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:53 (sixteen years ago) link

*lols*

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Adama's big speech about earth at the end of the miniseries = pretty fuckin obvious

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:57 (sixteen years ago) link

hey did you notice how many of the characters have names from ancient earth cultures? WHOAH

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

you know what I mean

if this was supposed to be an alien lifeform/culture that has, as a surprise, evolved/developed exactly along the same lines as that of earth has except they know all about space and have better guns and don't know about "fuck", well, fine. but this is twelve-thirteenths of an ancient civilisation that has been apart from the other thirteenth since no-one can remember and that thirteenth came to earth and joined in w/ life here? at what point? did they know the planet they were heading for when they left the rest of them? did they bring their culture and knowledge, so far, and got everyone to pretend they didn't know all about space and got them to change it to "fuck"? were these names and their number system and slang and so on theirs and they brought it w/ them even though they appear at certain points in earth's own history? maybe they revealed it bit by bit so it didn't seem suspicious. perhaps all the names, etc, in this television programme are just being replaced w/ earthly approximations to colour it for earthly viewing. these are pointless questions but about things that occasionally pass through, probably, a lot of the minds of people who watch this and other, similar science-fiction stuff and slightly unsuspend your disbelief. when they choose to call a ship "the olympic carrier" and people "apollo" and "thrace" and "hot dog", well, it makes me, at least, think "um", occasionally, whether I want to or not. like when the camera flies about in space and zooms in on a particular ship and I think "am I supposed to be thinking about this being filmed by a person that is in space?". that's all!

all your crossposts

RJG, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link

there are many clues but still ambiguity as to actual time
one issue with that is, like, why are there no battlestars and why am i not in a spaceship right now
did they all fall out of the ship and onto earth and forget about space technology and then build aqueducts instead?
xpost yep

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

omg apollo is british?!

cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

their trick of making me think "well, this isn't like it is on earth" is cutting all the corners of their letters and maps and playing cards and tables

RJG, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha
in the future/past there are no right angles

apollo actor *is* british!

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link

so why doesn't battlestar galactica have any british people?

cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link

did they all fall out of the ship and onto earth and forget about space technology and then build aqueducts instead?

Angry monotheism God followed them to earth and punished humanity by trapping us here/making us forget our true nature, etc.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i mean they have a mexican and a mulatto, don't they

cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link

(iow what PKD/Grant Morrison/crazy gnostics and Peruvian UFO watchers said)

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link

oh i guess gaius is britishes

cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link

gaius is so very english

crosspost

RJG, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link

still doesnt make sense to me--was there a britain on caprica?

cutty, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link

okay I admit that one occurred to me too - but I do appreciate the Gaius = Britishes = Roman (specifically Caligula) connection

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:09 (sixteen years ago) link

dear britishes - why do the evil people in sci-fi films always have british accents. thx from an american

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Gaius = Britishes = Roman?

sometimes they're german or english doing german accents

RJG, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

um yeah there was this thing called the Roman Empire that the British Empire was rather deeply endebted to.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Gaius is the only Roman name on the show too, afaic

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:14 (sixteen years ago) link

on rome all the romans have british accents

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 23:15 (sixteen years ago) link


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