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the difference:

1966: five or six major record labels run by people who had been around since days of al bowlly/glenn miller, didn't really have a clue about what the kids liked so were happy to throw anything into the mixer to see what came out.

2006: three or four multinational shareholder-driven organisations relying on instant returns, usually run by people who weren't even around in days of cobain, decided by committee what the kids should like so unhappy to throw anything into any mixer which doesn't sound like something that already came out, and therefore will make immediate money.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:16 (eighteen years ago) link

That sounds painfully true. Which is why there are still plenty of Phil Spectors, but almost no Brian Wilsons.

― Action Tim Vision (noodle vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:20 (eighteen years ago) link

in the case of coldplay it's just that they aren't very talented.

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:22 (eighteen years ago) link

i've still never heard an arctic monkeys song. am v happy and proud of this.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:25 (eighteen years ago) link

You get the feeling with Coldplay that the record company is so desperate for them to be massive that the records themselves are almost irrelevant.

― Action Tim Vision (noodle vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm pretty sure i've heard 'i bet that you look good...'. i've def heard the sugababes version.

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I notice everyone who raved over XY&Z six months ago now universally deem it a "disappointment."

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:29 (eighteen years ago) link

or X&Y, or whatever the third Coldplay album was called (£4 in Berwick Street MVE!).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:29 (eighteen years ago) link

or BOTH

perhaps i should have been more specific... lets say... the dark side of the moon period, the meddle period.. NOT the wall period

― lovethefrench (lovethefrench), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:31 (eighteen years ago) link

i hate dark side of the moon!

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:32 (eighteen years ago) link

i hate dark side of the moon

okay... hate what you want...

but man, you're missing out

― lovethefrench (lovethefrench), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:37 (eighteen years ago) link

lol

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link

i've never heard any pink floyd either.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:40 (eighteen years ago) link

you aren't missing much.

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:41 (eighteen years ago) link

i didn't think so.

the people who are missing out, are the people who haven't heard it's about time by christina milian.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

That's enough It's About Time spam!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I've heard it. It isn't all that.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:54 (eighteen years ago) link

but have you heard her new single 'say i', marcello? that is TOTALLY all that.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Heard all of the new album, too. Didn't really relight my fire, I'm sorry to say.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:59 (eighteen years ago) link

you have the new album?! omgomgomgomgomgomg

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link

marcello does that email address work?

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Yep.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh ffs.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:03 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

this album isn't too bad.

some of it is kinda boring, but they're just kids n' all.

i like the song "riot van" the best, the slow number.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/release/h3hj/

start from about 2/3 of the way down. my first, but not my last, music-forum flame-war!

― "Don't listen to people like Louis..." (Haberdager), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

The original, unedited outpouring can be found here: http://tms24.proboards40.com/index.cgi?board=offtopic&action=display&thread=1124830733&page=22#1138763563

I'm really not proud of a lot of what I said (ESPECIALLY the 'saviours of British rock', whoops), not to mention the manner in which I said it, but hey, a rant's a rant!

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I prefer the Arctic Monkeys to MUSE ffs

― //// (fandango), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

today is the first time i've heard the record. i'd only heard the look good on the dancefloor song before.

i guess i had low expectations.

a lot of it sounds like pretty typical u.s. indie rock w/english accents, but the best songs are pretty good. the lead dude has a good way about him sometimes.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

like maybe he could be the paul weller for kids that play playstation or someting someday.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

They do have a pinch of charm about them, despite the cliches and hackneyed subject matter. Especially in comparison to their competition (ok maybe I doo need to hear the Long Blondes & Gossip albums too... ), enthusiasm though, is something that they don't quite spark in me.

― //// (fandango), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Look (on Metacritic) at which publications'/reviewers' end-of-the-year lists they topped. Bit of an Atlantic divide, whatwhat?

― M. V. (M.V.), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Ive only heard a few songs and i think they're above alright, but not half as stunning as the hype suggests. My point is a dry one though. The 'working lads and lasses' et al who apparently will love this record, probably won't. The middle class fans (rock is pretty middle class these days, admit it!) who wish the proles would dig t'monkeys are missing one thing. Youth proles dig Mc'ing, rap, and other such genres, not rock! Round my area they don't anyway. Im afraid that the belief in, and empathy with the modern; 'gawd bless em workin' claas' which may give t'monkey's added cred, is a lie! Rock aint these kids main thing at all. Its just t'middle class kids hoping that a few kitchen sink lyrical snippets and regional accents might make it such. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. So there.
Dom, london

ha ha

― acrobat (elwisty), Saturday, 13 January 2007 00:08 (seventeen years ago) link

still never heard an arctic monkeys song :D

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Saturday, 13 January 2007 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Please keep us informed on this, lex.

― Clothing the Gotterdammerung Doors (noodle vague), Saturday, 13 January 2007 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

it seems like you could have any opinion of this band, depending on how charitable you feel like being and how much credit yr willing to give them cuz of how young they are.

i guess my default position is that every new "buzz band" of the UK is going to be a big huge pile of shit, so when something's kinda decent i'm all like "oh that's kinda nice, good for them!"

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 13 January 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Lucky you, Lex!

Srsly, are these losers still around?

― SAVE IT FOR THE CAKE LIST YOU CRAZY BROAD (patog27), Saturday, 13 January 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Just listen to NME, MTV2, Q and any other half decent journalists... they are brilliant

― DavidM* (unreal), Saturday, 13 January 2007 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

that's a good one, but for nuclear holocaust in ABOUT ZERO SECONDS:

had to laugh at the reviewer here..what a shoddy review. Of course nothing in guitar based music is groundbreaking anymore,,its just impossible, its all been done before. However as someone who has not been particularly touched by anything musically since the Stone Roses debut this album is phenomenal, as good as you can get.

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Saturday, 13 January 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

~~Poor~~ Destitute Man's Carlin.

― SAVE IT FOR THE CAKE LIST YOU CRAZY BROAD (patog27), Sunday, 14 January 2007 01:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Hnestly, 4 shit versions of a top zing rly serve to bang the msg hOm.

― Clothing the Gotterdammerung Doors (noodle vague), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

does the british press shorthand their name to "the arctics in glasto dust-up" or "the monkeys in glasto dust-up?"

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 14 January 2007 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...

Wow, that's odd, when I bought a cheapo DVD player recently, there was a CD already in it when I took it out of the box... I played a bit of it and then put it away 'cos I thought it'd be some crappy compilation being given away as a freebie. However when I put it into iTunes just now it turns out it's the first Arctic Monkeys album... what gives?

― Tom D., Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

must be an evil dvd player.

― funny farm, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

they can't give 'em away! except in this case obv.

― blueski, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Was somebody listening to it in the DVD factory and forgot to take it out?

― Tom D., Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

love the idea of the Arctic Monkeys album being used as a Reference cd to check the DVD player works ok with audio cds.

― mark e, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone probably returned it and forgot to take their CD out. Bummer!

― musically, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...

Someone please explain why "Fluroscent Adolescent" is meant to be a modern classic. Thanks.

― Dom Passantino, Monday, 22 October 2007 12:07 (sixteen years ago) link

that's a clever title.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 22 October 2007 12:09 (sixteen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Drastic_Fantastic.jpg

― Just got offed, Monday, 22 October 2007 12:21 (sixteen years ago) link

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