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yeah, THE NEW GUY. i love that fucking movie

demonlolver (gcannon), Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

road trip >>>> the new guy

3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

idk how i cld not have seen charlies angels full throttle! he gets a girl in the new guy right? horatio sanz wow

haha maybe, i wanna like stay 3 nights w anyone who owns all these comedies and watch and rank them and be able to just hop from chapter to chapter in passing

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

is road trip better than like harold and kumar? is eurotrip real bad? whatre the other movies like this, recent, thatre ok? maybe high school vs college is a bonus idk

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

never saw harold & kumar but road trip is classic i almost peed when i watched it the 1st time

3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

othon
sicilia!
dalla nube alla resistenza
du jour au lendemain
kronik der anna magdalena bach
moses und aron
lothringen!
la mort d'empedocle
toute révolution est un coup de dés
einleitung zu arnold schoenbergs "begleitmusik zu einer lichtspielscene"

--bruno, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link

omg

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link

is the kid on the left in movies alot?

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

(tracer hand, mitch lastnamewithheld, s trife, calum robert waddel)

3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

guess not, paulo! is josie and the pussycats really funny tho? its rep is that its smart? i like rosario and tara reid of course

haha yeah fucking up a wagon

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i dunno i saw it and laughed a couple times but its so cutesy/smarmy and the "intelligent teen movie" is a bad genre overall except for election and maybe clueless

3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

exactly re genre, id totally give clueless a pass tho. way before election i think

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

dude bruno aren't those all straub-huillet movies?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

i wasnt sure if it counted tho

3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost, i mean clueless

3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

xp well ok i forgot abt broderick completely. broderick is funny

i sorta wanted all those movies to be invented!

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

what about heckerlings apartment remake LOSER with biggs & suvari reunited!!! love that one but its a lil too smarty pants sometimes

3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link

xp oh i see, yeah! plus a woman director! its kind of too warm, in a gd way, so many wrinkled noses, clueless

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

i need to see loser again, i dont remember any of it, cept maybe suvari is esp cute and less otherworldly? less american beauty i probably mean. heckerling did european vacation holy shit

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link

dan savage's defense of road trip was great

demonlolver (gcannon), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah. everything i know i learned from straub.
what do you think of them, amateurist ?

--bruno, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link

this is really 2 difft threads huh

3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i know the bare bones of carmen jones, i just havent seen it.
i was hoping it might the passolini, but i suspected it would be the powell.
its weird, i admire the desire for emotional cathasris as a legit love for film, and that you dont love melodrama for the fashionable reasons.

anthony, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

pasolini is so great, and sad but i just realised ive seen almost none of his shit, mamma roma is so nice esp when its comedy, im starting to understand ppl saying those period italian films are kind of superior, just so dressed, vaguely dusty period pieces

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Salo features lots of his shit.

Scream! Scrovula, Scream! (noodle vague), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link

60s/70s italian cinema is the shit, 'they' need to look beyond spaghetti westerns + drop some bellocchio on us.

i didn't enjoy 'salo'.

n_RQ, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Salo a lot. I don't know how familiar you are with the 120 Days of Sodom, but against that perspective Salo comes off mostly as a playful lampooning of the Fascists (and prob'ly, by extended analogy, the authorities in 70s Italy).

Scream! Scrovula, Scream! (noodle vague), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

you cd probably guess i haven't read '120 DOS', but i get the impression it's unfilmable as written. i think i like aspects of PPP but he's kind of not good at pulling all of it together, you know? in the later stuff anyway. i must see 'oedpus re'.

n_RQ, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I do mostly prefer the 60s stuff to the later stuff and Salo's kind of an exception to that rule. 120 Days is pretty much unfilmable, unless it was shot as the least erotic porn movie ever. It starts to get unspeakably horrible round about Day 30. The villains in the 120 Days are portrayed by Sade as these super-icons of badness, whereas the villains in Salo are, well, a bit shit and inept really. Pasolini even at the end of his career does long shots on fascinating faces really well.

Scream! Scrovula, Scream! (noodle vague), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

election is smug and awful, there's like a billion teen movies better than that one.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

The Right Stuff
Before Sunset
Running on Empty
Eyes Wide Shut
Gates of Heaven
Do the Right Thing
High and Low
Days of Heaven
All the President's Men
Rear Window

Life is Beautiful
Natural Born Killers
Signs
Jerry Maguire
One Hundred and One Dalmatians
Trainspotting
Best In Show
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
The Usual Suspects
The Wizard of Oz

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I should have added a Scorsese movie to the second list

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Gary Indiana's bfi book on "Salo" is terriffic. i read it before i saw the film and when i did see it i hated it. i didn't make it to the end.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Lock, Stock is truly horrible yes.

I forgot the Transformers movie, which is totally a fav of mine tho!

Also, The New Guy is great for the Mystikal song. I think it's slightly better than Road Trip overall, because it doesn't have fucking Tom Green in it, but it does have Eddie Griffin.

Loser is great aw-shucks romantic too. The NY montage is priceless and Mena looks cuter than in any other film I've seen her in.

What was that 1960s film about three single women making it in the big city at, i think, a greeting card company? There was some subplot about computerization and layoffs. That film was like the apartment, but somehow way better. Ams would know this, I think.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

i think part of that movie ws on tv a few months ago but i ws drinking alot of red wine cuz itd ben awkward watching the fugitive w my turkish roommates turkish mom. it had stars, incl i think a male one she knew of

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i dont mind life is beautiful

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

ok i ws thinking of desk set, with hepburn and tracy, haha. but the movie u describe sounds fantastic!

noodle otm re fascinating faces. i like movies divided into days or chapters, also

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link

like

le mepris
pierrot le fou
le doulos
the thing
once upon a time in the west
the wild bunch
one, two,three
fallen angels
the third man
repo man


hate

3000 miles to graceland
arlington road
darkness falls
the killer elite
hero (the garcia one)
wing commander
ghostbusters 2
harvard man
clay pigeons
cold creek manor

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link

i enjoy the idea of 3000 miles but its a howie long thing, i had no idea ppl disliked ghostbusters 2

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:28 (eighteen years ago) link

river of slime, haunted painting, what's to hate right? but still, very unfunny and as ragget might say, unfun

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

also i think 3000 incl a funny kind of, caught fucking, scene ft who courtney cox and kurt russell? also wait lovitz is in it? stupid elevator shit too

i dunno how long its been since ive seen gbusters 2. it cld be i only wish it well cuz it actual scared me the 1st time, vlad. if its not funny im w you

007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link

thing is, ghostbusters 2 was by far the most anticipated movie of '89 (90?) on my must-see list, so i went opening weekend with my brother and dad. we were pretty excited but i tell you what, i've never seen a grimmer-looking audience leaving a theater when the lights came up.

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link

3000 Miles to Graceland had one of the best trailers I've ever seen for a horrible movie

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.spietati.it/speciali/mizoguchi/foto/miss-oyu1.jpg

miss oyu

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:39 (eighteen years ago) link

haha i think i grafted the "computers" part of the plot from desk set to the other movie. but the other movie DOES exist, I'm sure. desk set is great too.

also, gear, how could you hate the killer elite!? that movie is so fucking funny.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm a huge peckinpah fan to the point that i'm not sure anyone else anywhere from '69-'74 was doing better work, however i found that movie to be a bit of a mess and mostly very bad. i did like bo hopkins in it, though!

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

corporate ninjas!

it's a totally weird mess, yeah, but i love how strange and absurd the whole thing is.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

actually i probably dislike some other peckinpah films more, but this one disappointed me most.

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Casablanca
2. Apocalypse Now
3. Harold and Maude
4. Pillow Talk
5. His Girl Friday
6. Fantasia (original)
7. Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown
8. Seventh Seal
9. Star Wars (the first one released, in 1970s)
10. Jesus Christ Superstar

I can't remember the ones I hate.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 17 July 2005 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link


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