'88 was a banner year for hip hop
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link
hardly anybody in the US gave a shit about acid house.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
ok, self up-uping here but
2 X CDR700MB Go! 1988 : Success... Excess... Pop Will Eat The Brown Acid Itself
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link
and I still haven't sent out some CDRs. i iz bastard. :(
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link
bv. Surfer RosaSonic Youth, Daydream NationMy Bloody Valentine,Isn't AnythingThrowing Muses, House TornadoSinead O'ConnorThe Lion and The CobraThe Cocteau Twins, Blue Bell KnollA.R. Kane, 69Talk Talk, Spirit of EdenDinosaur Jr., BugLoop, Fade OutJane's Addiction, Nothing's ShockingThe Butthole Surfers, Hairway to Steven
looking at this list I only see one real genuine big seller/hit here (Sinead), the rest are a disparate bunch of indie releases that got played on 120 Minutes. Apart from that I don't see any common thread, really.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
1988 was one long nightmare of way too much hip-hop, hair metal and dance. And underproduced indie with way too much reverb, hardly any stereo at all (other than the reverb) and singers who didn't even hit the notes properly.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link
1988 was the only year this happened, yes
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link
gibby hits all the right notes
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link
by attrition
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
1988 would be the start of "alternative" music as a genre in the minds of the major labels. Didn't the Pixes, SY, MBV, and Dino jr. all put out their next records on majors.
― steampig67, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
what? i would say most people would say "acid house" was the big thing from 88, probably followed by that late 80s wave of hip hop like public enemy, epmd, nwa etc...
I'm not sure what your issue is with my statement. Apart from a few exceptions house was pretty much entirely a singles medium. Hip hop was already flourishing as an albums medium by '88.
― Billy Dods, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link
I wouldn't say it was fluorishing exactly, more like just getting started
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Go-Betweens - 16 Lovers LanePet Shop Boys - Introspective
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link
― Billy Dods, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:27
it was the bit about "the revisionism of today" i don't think there is really much revisionism in that regard.
― stone cold all time hall of fame classics (internet person), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link
If you look at what was popular in the hitlists in 1988, Stock/Aitken/Waterman pwned the entire year. At least in UK and Europe.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link
And in the US, it was hair metal.
y'know I dl'd a bunch of PSB stuff recently with fairly fond memories of them as clever synth popsters and I gotta say I was appalled by the overall shitty sound of their most famous material. The string patches! The drum hits! The wimpy, barely-even-singing vocals! Their production aesthetic is just so weirdly dated and unadventurous. I was disappointed.
x-post
maybe I should post this on a PSB thread hah
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link
''hair metal and dance''
1988 in total was just a big set up for Trent Reznor's dynasty.
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 7 November 2008 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^The seeds were certainly sown by then
― steampig67, Friday, 7 November 2008 00:17 (fifteen years ago) link
The string patches and barely-even-singing vocals are two of the most memorable elements, I'd say. And Tennant's vocals on "Why Don't We Live Together?" and "Kings Cross" are hardly that.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 7 November 2008 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Pet Shop Boys have always strived to sound very much up-to-date with the latest trends. Which will always mean they will run the risk of sounding dated a few years later.
IMO, the only albums of theirs that sound really dated are "Actually" and "Introspective", simply because late 80s keyboard/electronic based music tends to sound very dated these days (hard sampling sounds, FM synths, hardly no "soft" analog sounds at all).
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 7 November 2008 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link
~~max's fresh 10 '88 edition~~
"top billin" - audio two"snappiness" - bbg"twist of cain" - danzig"jibaro" - electra"good life (magic juan mix)" - inner city"cars with the boom" - l'trimm"fairytale of new york" - the pogues"children's story" - slick rick"the rainbow" - talk talk"tweeter & the monkey man" - traveling wilburys
― Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Friday, 7 November 2008 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Re. the Pet Shop Boys. The big shift that occurred in dance, hip hop and r&b production between the late '80s and the early to mid '90s, and which filtered through to the dance-pop of the day, was the replacement of brittle, thin sound with a much fatter, rawer sound. The digital presets of the '80s generation of synths was gradually replaced by more heavy reliance on samples and analog synths. But not just that, the style of eq changed. Things became murkier and murkier. Hip hop and DIY House, either by accident (ie necessity - being limited to cheap, basic equipment) or design, went for a rawer sound. For some reason the Pet Shop Boys persisted with a thinner, over-eq'd sound. I remember thinking during that period that I really disliked their production sound. They modified it a bit by the mid '90, though, bringing themselves back on track with the general trends.
But referring to that general early '90s rawness, some of it sounds pretty painful to me now. I can't believe how bass-heavy and muddy many of the typical 909 kicks sound now.
― dubmill, Friday, 7 November 2008 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link
re: the PSB - everything I grabbed (which was mostly just the hits, I confess - Let's Make Lots of Money, West End Girls, Suburbia, You Were Always On My Mind, etc.) sounded like a shitty DX-7 preset. Totally agree about the over EQd/brittleness of the sound.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 November 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I like the PSB, but I still don't like Introspection. I know it's what the critics back then said about it re: "more songs, less length", but it's too bad because I think PSB proved they could put out a great long-disco-track album -- i.e. the first Disco, of course -- it's a remix album, but I feel it has just as much an identity as Please or Actually.
As far as PSB in 1988 goes, all is forgiven nonetheless because the single edit of "Left To My Own Devices" is their greatest achievement to date.
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 7 November 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think these have been mentioned yet--
Slayer - South Of HeavenN.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - Tender Prey EPMD - Strictly Business The Jungle Brothers - Straight Out The Jungle Boogie Down Productions - By All Means Necessary Ultramagnetic MCs - Critical Beatdown The Pogues - If I Should Fall From The Grace Of GodSoul Asylum - Hang TimeGalaxie 500 - Today Eric B. & Rakim - Follow the Leader Cowboy Junkies - The Trinity Session Ministry - The Land Of Rape And HoneyBeat Happening - Jamboree Bongwater - Double Bummer Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime Big Daddy Kane - Long Live the Kane Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick Prince - LovesexyLeonard Cohen - I'm Your Man Metallica - ...And Justice For All
― President Keyes, Friday, 7 November 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Prefab Sprout - Langley ParkMicrodisney - 39 MinutesREM - Green
Those also not mentioned. Sure I'm missing some stuff. Favourite overall, of all the splenid alberms from this yer, probably Spirit of Eden.
― Freedom, Friday, 7 November 2008 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link
"splendid"
how good is Operation Mindcrime? One of my good friends from my last job is all about Queensryche, and he told me that that album was a classic-and-a-half...
― goofus vs. gallant (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 14 November 2008 01:02 (fifteen years ago) link
― stone cold all time hall of fame classics (internet person), Friday, 14 November 2008 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Actually, there was a lot of good albums this year...
― goofus vs. gallant (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 14 November 2008 02:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Although released in August 1987, it took until 1988 for it to define nearly every Hip-Hop album (1987 used it mostly on singles, and wasn't nationwide yet)http://www.samplist.com/sp1200_f.GIFBefore this, Rap music was directed more by studio enginners and executive producers. This was the moment Hip-Hop moved to bedrooms for pre-production.
― Log Doubt (PappaWheelie V), Friday, 14 November 2008 03:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Then Play Long reaches the world of New Jersey via Bon Jovi, but not before noticing that there's a ton of rock (1n 1988) elsewhere: http://nobilliards.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/bon-jovi-new-jersey.html
― agincourtgirl, zaterdag 23 mei 2015 15:49
― Kibbutzki (Jaap Schip), Saturday, 23 May 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link
I somehow was able to hear different versions of "Fairytale of New York" multiple times over the past couple weeks without getting too sick of 'em, so I went back to the album for the first time in about 25 years. As usual at Rancho Bulboso, things escalated from there.
https://fastnbulbous.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/lucky-88.jpg
https://fastnbulbous.com/lucky-88/
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 27 December 2021 00:27 (two years ago) link