I don't listen to much indie rock at all unless I think the lyrics are awesome or the musicianship is of ridiculously high caliber
guess how often that's the case
starting a suggest ban campaign because you said you like parts of st. anger
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway that's enough of this, nobody cares about indie rock any more than anybody cares about witch house
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
why though? i'm genuinely curious why you don't really dig the genre much!
― ksh, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I kind of am uninterested in making the witch house thread the "how I feel about indie rock" thread yo
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link
alright dude, fair enough
― ksh, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway, I just listened to "Frost" on Pitchfork, and I really, really like it! so I'm willing to give them a second chance; it seems credible enough that at least some of the reason for the abject awfulness of the Fader Fort performance is directly due to sound problems at the venue
― ksh, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Salem's tracks on their 7"s *ARE* really great! And some of their homemade videos are incredibly haunting and hypnotic (there are several linked in the other thread). I think Whiney's whole This is barely music. Most bands that make formless noise put more energy and care into their art than this is bullshit, actually - Salem have managed to create a genuinely interesting sound and aesthetic (that *of course* is going to be cheapened by sound-a-like bands and inclusion in a blog-christened "scene" with a ridiculous name). Those live videos are just really unfortunate, in every way.
― Becky Facelift, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, they really are -- even given sound problems, the disparity between that they're doing in those videos and the quality of "Frost" is kinda insane
― ksh, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
actually those videos make 'frost' sound terrible to me. same shitty musicians and presets, it's just on the grid and mixed better.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
(i only just heard it for the first time now btw)
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link
"this misstep exposes them" vs. "this poor showing does not indicate their true qualities" is kind of an intractable ideological battleground imo
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link
whatever the deal is, that track is solid and those videos certainly are not. in a different venue, at a different time, with a different atmosphere and sound, and with more practice, i could see their live show being far more compelling
― ksh, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
"that track is solid" vs "that track is not solid, but boring and canned"
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
yes, we disagree regarding "Frost"
― ksh, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
The Levis Fader Fort thread
― how do i spud webb (am0n), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i called this shit Screw Wave. such a better name
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
it seems credible enough that at least some of the reason for the abject awfulness of the Fader Fort performance is directly due to sound problems at the venue
i don't think sound problems are to blame for out of tune singing, incredibly bad electronic percussion playing and random synth noodling. very keen to hear what their studio side is like now.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
They have a good eye for graphic design as their album covers all look great.
There's a part of me that is disappointed that when you take away the fog machine and reverb and slowed down vocals the entire affair is less than stellar but then really I don't give a fuck, because the studio version of Redlights has an awesome melody, a great cool sound and is honestly a lot more interesting to listen to than most Wierd records bands -- who are mining similar goth territory and can be just as embarrassing live.
― filthy dylan, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link
im fucking with GR†LLGR†LL right now
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Some famous Neptunes productions use (nearly?) all presets - that's not much of a criticism to lay on witch house.
I think a lot of music in the pop idiom is unimaginative and most pop is a hair's width away from feelings of oh god why do I like this, so I have place in my heart for half-baked ideas in pop music if I have a place in my heart for pop at all.
NB: I haven't heard any witch house.
― bamcquern, Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link
a good use of presets feels definitive imo, like "oh shit, they own that one now." or at least uses it in a context that makes it feel fresh, and not lazy.
(of course, putting presets through an awesome audio chain and great mastering, like the neptunes have access to, sure doesn't hurt)
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Balam Acab EP announced....
http://pitchfork.com/news/39193-new-release-balam-acab-isee-birdsi-ep/
― sobones_robin, Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
wow hadn't seen those fader fort salem things.
dude kinda has a jay from jay and silent bob vibe
― it's detlef season, you schrempfs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
What do we think about Mater Suspiria Vision? Some kind of Detroit Techno leanings and some really cool vimeos.
― the food has a top snake of 1 (ulillillia), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link
wow hadn't seen those fader fort salem things
not sure how you avoided em since the same videos have been spammed across about four threads now
― dmr, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
i figured "fader fort salem" was some meme that i didn't get. good to know! the vids are laughable for a second, but more "i fear for the future of my nation" tbh.
― goole, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Got me thinkingI wish I was leavin’If not...then I’d rather be somewhere elseI’m not tryin’ to be here, by myselfIf you were here too, I’d still be near myself
― Q and Not Gucci (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link
the one white ring song was pretty cool but overall this music seems kind of pathetic
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
If you were here too, I’d still be near myself
^^i might ponder this lyric the rest of my days
― Q and Not Gucci (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
re: fader fort salem, i am torn between feeling bad for them because of the high probability that they're sad fucked up ppl who are getting taken advantage of and being disgusted by them because they don't have the pride/dignity to put together a halfway decent live performance.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
the high probability that they're sad fucked up ppl
What
― Your review is so far outside the realms of reality (ksh), Thursday, 1 July 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
well, in addition to the interview where the one dude from salem talks about being a prostitute and taking tons of drugs (hey i have no reason to disbelieve him) no way in hell is that a sober performance.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 July 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Hung out with them in a festival green room; dudes didn't eat any pizza just drank gin gin gin gin. They're totally sweet guys, but probably junkies.
― the food has a top snake of 1 (ulillillia), Thursday, 1 July 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
http://witchhaus.blogspot.com/
― the food has a top snake of 1 (ulillillia), Thursday, 1 July 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah fwiw I don't know if dude was a prostitute or not, but he's not really said anything that I don't believe; from what I've heard, Traverse City is one of the most closeted cities in the country...
― is this the end of zombie Shakespeare? (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 1 July 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
witch house seems to exist in some alternate universe where bands name themselves after ilx display names
― /\/K/\/\, Thursday, 1 July 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link
haha no doubt, you in particular should try to sell yours to one, it totally fits
― Q and Not Gucci (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 July 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
these guys are basically trolling right
― surfer blood for oil (Hurting 2), Thursday, 1 July 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
have we mentioned SLEEP ∞ OVER
their name says witch house, but i', not sure if they are and i need someone to tell me so I know which emerging subculture i am aligning myself with when i enjoy their streaming audio and video files
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link
idk; the songs on Salem's myspace are awesome...fuck a fader fort tbf...
― is this the end of zombie Shakespeare? (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
xp
ehhh frost is a pretty good tune, sounds sort of like something left off the back side of Saturdays = Youth but with southern rap influenced drum programming. the stuff that basically bites Screw is pretty -__-
― /\/K/\/\, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
oh boy..outtamydepthsagain..."bites Screw"?
― is this the end of zombie Shakespeare? (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link
my bad, DJ Screw
― /\/K/\/\, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link
e.g. the real slowed vocal sample in TRAPDOOR
― /\/K/\/\, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link
its not a sample but you know what i mean
Bit of an interview from BUTT MAGAZINE with one of the Salem d00ds (the singer?) (http://www.buttmagazine.com/?p=2102)
Michael: So what is this about you being a teenage prostitute? Were you doing it for the thrill of it?John: No. Because I needed money to buy drugs.
Really? What drugs?Well, I was doing coke and heroin – I was speedballing.
Did your friends know that you were doing this?My friend Heather knew, who is also in Salem. My other friends sorta knew. But I was doing it, like, when I was, like, 16 or 17. When I was growing up in Michigan, I would just go to, like, the gas station whereI would, like, hang out in the back and, you know, someone would just, like, drive up to the back and blah, blah, blah. But, like, when I went to Chicago…
Wait, wait, wait! You’d go to the gas station and people would just pull up? What were they like?Just, like, guys. Some of them were pretty hot, ’cause they were, like, really white trash and, like, probably almost all of them had wives. But some of them were also really, like, nasty and, like, fat. But I didn’t make good money there. It was, like, real cheap in Michigan. But when I went to Chicago, I made, like, really good money.
So the majority were ‘on the down low’?Yeah, they, like, wanted to, like, fuck a guy and they couldn’t, ’cause they were married.
How would it work? They just knew you were there? How’d you solicit them?Yeah, I’d be back there and they’d just pull up and they’d be, like, ‘Hey, are you looking for a date?’ and I’d be, like, ‘Yup.’ (laughs) But in Chicago I could trick in a cab. I would just get in a cab and be, like, ‘Hey, I don’t have any money. Can you help me out?’ And they would drive me to somewhere secluded and, like, fuck me, or I’d do whatever, give them a blowjob or a handjob and I wouldn’t have to pay, but they’d give me money. I would, like, get so muchwork from cabs.
What do you mean? Chicago has that many gay cab drivers?Well, maybe not all gay, but at least horny.You could just hail a cab and be, like, ‘Hey, I don’t have any money’ and they’d know what you were talking about. But there was an IHOP (International House of Pancakes) near the Boystown, in Chicago’s gay area, and you would go back in their parking lot to trick. It was me and a bunch of other guys. People would just drive up and take whoever they wanted.
Really? A lineup? What kind of rates would you get?I could make, like, $2,000 for having someone fuck me.
What? For a whole weekend?No, just for a night.
Isn’t that kind of rate more for highbrow prostitution?Well, I’m actually lying; that, like, only happened a few times. But you just start out, like, ‘$2,000?’ and they either say yes or no. If they’re like, ‘No’, then you have to lower your rate.
And some people would give you $2,000?Yeah. And then I’d buy drugs.
Did you go to college?Yeah, I did. I went to college at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago – for drawing and installation.
Did you finish?No. I was going to finish it, but during my last year I got, like, really messed up. I was, like, a hardcore drug addict. I never went to class, and I would do a lot of drugs and drink, like, a handle (1.75 liters) of whiskey in a day. I just never finished.
So when you were addicted to drugs, what kind of high were you looking for?Well, I’m sorta, like, a pretty, like, depressed person…
etc. etc.
― CompuPost, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link
xp to nkm is tent kinda like that too?
― is this the end of zombie Shakespeare? (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link
ya although i think it works a little better in that song than trapdoor
― /\/K/\/\, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link
is there a thread yet?
anyhow- a mix
http://www.mediafire.com/?2z14z50mdun
― corporationpop, Sunday, 11 July 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
it's like the perfect combination of boy band techno and creepy industrial noises, EVERYBODY hates it
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 29 January 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link
except me!
was listening to the Creep album on the way to work which was more witch house-adjacent, but it made me remember "witch house"
kept mumbling "wiiiiitch hoooouse" to myself in the car
― mh, Monday, 29 January 2018 20:57 (six years ago) link
my neighbor witch house would be an excellent kid's animated film
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 29 January 2018 20:59 (six years ago) link
I haven't caught up with it recently, but I used to listen to this Spotify playlist all the time.
https://open.spotify.com/user/12145454449/playlist/0ZYCdcbhJ3Uy1zcB9JHVeW?si=E0b7MIHgR3atP219YudxfQ
add your favorite witch house playlists here (I guess).
― fffv, Monday, 29 January 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
the one I really loved on Youtube seems to have disappeared, sadly
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 29 January 2018 23:41 (six years ago) link
also we looked up the translated lyrics to ic3peak's "Грустная Сука" and they're pretty great:
I’m ruining your day with my dead pale faceI don’t care about you being triggeredWild dogs are afraid both of me and of fireThat’s not a coincidence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf99kdFw9b8
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 29 January 2018 23:49 (six years ago) link
if you were here too I'd still be by myself
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 00:32 (six years ago) link
Talking of Russian Witch House, I was just thinking about Vagina Vangi. They did a few EPs and things about five years ago, I liked this one -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvcQ4P2CcDo
(warning that it doesn't really get going until the second half)
And they did quite a few remixes of note, like this version of Ghetto Ass Witch by †‡†
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNEksbngz9E
They were definitely a bit cheesy but still exactly what I wanted from witch house.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link
https://www.nts.live/shows/physical-therapy/episodes/physical-therapy-22nd-march-2024
Witch House special!
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 30 March 2024 11:28 (one month ago) link