The Witch House thread

Salem's tracks on their 7"s *ARE* really great! And some of their homemade videos are incredibly haunting and hypnotic (there are several linked in the other thread). I think Whiney's whole This is barely music. Most bands that make formless noise put more energy and care into their art than this is bullshit, actually - Salem have managed to create a genuinely interesting sound and aesthetic (that *of course* is going to be cheapened by sound-a-like bands and inclusion in a blog-christened "scene" with a ridiculous name).

Those live videos are just really unfortunate, in every way.

yeah, they really are -- even given sound problems, the disparity between that they're doing in those videos and the quality of "Frost" is kinda insane

actually those videos make 'frost' sound terrible to me. same shitty musicians and presets, it's just on the grid and mixed better.

(i only just heard it for the first time now btw)

"this misstep exposes them" vs. "this poor showing does not indicate their true qualities" is kind of an intractable ideological battleground imo

whatever the deal is, that track is solid and those videos certainly are not. in a different venue, at a different time, with a different atmosphere and sound, and with more practice, i could see their live show being far more compelling

"that track is solid" vs "that track is not solid, but boring and canned"

yes, we disagree regarding "Frost"

The Levis Fader Fort thread

i called this shit Screw Wave. such a better name

it seems credible enough that at least some of the reason for the abject awfulness of the Fader Fort performance is directly due to sound problems at the venue

i don't think sound problems are to blame for out of tune singing, incredibly bad electronic percussion playing and random synth noodling. very keen to hear what their studio side is like now.

They have a good eye for graphic design as their album covers all look great.

There's a part of me that is disappointed that when you take away the fog machine and reverb and slowed down vocals the entire affair is less than stellar but then really I don't give a fuck, because the studio version of Redlights has an awesome melody, a great cool sound and is honestly a lot more interesting to listen to than most Wierd records bands -- who are mining similar goth territory and can be just as embarrassing live.

im fucking with GR†LLGR†LL right now

Some famous Neptunes productions use (nearly?) all presets - that's not much of a criticism to lay on witch house.

I think a lot of music in the pop idiom is unimaginative and most pop is a hair's width away from feelings of oh god why do I like this, so I have place in my heart for half-baked ideas in pop music if I have a place in my heart for pop at all.

NB: I haven't heard any witch house.

a good use of presets feels definitive imo, like "oh shit, they own that one now." or at least uses it in a context that makes it feel fresh, and not lazy.

(of course, putting presets through an awesome audio chain and great mastering, like the neptunes have access to, sure doesn't hurt)

Balam Acab EP announced....

http://pitchfork.com/news/39193-new-release-balam-acab-isee-birdsi-ep/

wow hadn't seen those fader fort salem things.

dude kinda has a jay from jay and silent bob vibe

What do we think about Mater Suspiria Vision? Some kind of Detroit Techno leanings and some really cool vimeos.

wow hadn't seen those fader fort salem things

not sure how you avoided em since the same videos have been spammed across about four threads now

i figured "fader fort salem" was some meme that i didn't get. good to know! the vids are laughable for a second, but more "i fear for the future of my nation" tbh.

Got me thinking
I wish I was leavin’
If not...then I’d rather be somewhere else
I’m not tryin’ to be here, by myself
If you were here too, I’d still be near myself

the one white ring song was pretty cool but overall this music seems kind of pathetic

If you were here too, I’d still be near myself

^^i might ponder this lyric the rest of my days

re: fader fort salem, i am torn between feeling bad for them because of the high probability that they're sad fucked up ppl who are getting taken advantage of and being disgusted by them because they don't have the pride/dignity to put together a halfway decent live performance.

the high probability that they're sad fucked up ppl

What

well, in addition to the interview where the one dude from salem talks about being a prostitute and taking tons of drugs (hey i have no reason to disbelieve him) no way in hell is that a sober performance.

Hung out with them in a festival green room; dudes didn't eat any pizza just drank gin gin gin gin. They're totally sweet guys, but probably junkies.

http://witchhaus.blogspot.com/

yeah fwiw I don't know if dude was a prostitute or not, but he's not really said anything that I don't believe; from what I've heard, Traverse City is one of the most closeted cities in the country...

witch house seems to exist in some alternate universe where bands name themselves after ilx display names

haha no doubt, you in particular should try to sell yours to one, it totally fits

these guys are basically trolling right

have we mentioned SLEEP ∞ OVER

their name says witch house, but i', not sure if they are and i need someone to tell me so I know which emerging subculture i am aligning myself with when i enjoy their streaming audio and video files

idk; the songs on Salem's myspace are awesome...fuck a fader fort tbf...

xp

ehhh frost is a pretty good tune, sounds sort of like something left off the back side of Saturdays = Youth but with southern rap influenced drum programming. the stuff that basically bites Screw is pretty -__-

oh boy..outtamydepthsagain..."bites Screw"?

my bad, DJ Screw

e.g. the real slowed vocal sample in TRAPDOOR

its not a sample but you know what i mean

Bit of an interview from BUTT MAGAZINE with one of the Salem d00ds (the singer?) (http://www.buttmagazine.com/?p=2102)

Michael: So what is this about you being a teenage prostitute? Were you doing it for the thrill of it?
John: No. Because I needed money to buy drugs.

Really? What drugs?
Well, I was doing coke and heroin – I was speedballing.

Did your friends know that you were doing this?
My friend Heather knew, who is also in Salem. My other friends sorta knew. But I was doing it, like, when I was, like, 16 or 17. When I was growing up in Michigan, I would just go to, like, the gas station whereI would, like, hang out in the back and, you know, someone would just, like, drive up to the back and blah, blah, blah. But, like, when I went to Chicago…

Wait, wait, wait! You’d go to the gas station and people would just pull up? What were they like?
Just, like, guys. Some of them were pretty hot, ’cause they were, like, really white trash and, like, probably almost all of them had wives. But some of them were also really, like, nasty and, like, fat. But I didn’t make good money there. It was, like, real cheap in Michigan. But when I went to Chicago, I made, like, really good money.

So the majority were ‘on the down low’?
Yeah, they, like, wanted to, like, fuck a guy and they couldn’t, ’cause they were married.

How would it work? They just knew you were there? How’d you solicit them?Yeah, I’d be back there and they’d just pull up and they’d be, like, ‘Hey, are you looking for a date?’ and I’d be, like, ‘Yup.’ (laughs) But in Chicago I could trick in a cab. I would just get in a cab and be, like, ‘Hey, I don’t have any money. Can you help me out?’ And they would drive me to somewhere secluded and, like, fuck me, or I’d do whatever, give them a blowjob or a handjob and I wouldn’t have to pay, but they’d give me money. I would, like, get so muchwork from cabs.

What do you mean? Chicago has that many gay cab drivers?
Well, maybe not all gay, but at least horny.You could just hail a cab and be, like, ‘Hey, I don’t have any money’ and they’d know what you were talking about. But there was an IHOP (International House of Pancakes) near the Boystown, in Chicago’s gay area, and you would go back in their parking lot to trick. It was me and a bunch of other guys. People would just drive up and take whoever they wanted.

Really? A lineup? What kind of rates would you get?
I could make, like, $2,000 for having someone fuck me.

What? For a whole weekend?
No, just for a night.

Isn’t that kind of rate more for highbrow prostitution?
Well, I’m actually lying; that, like, only happened a few times. But you just start out, like, ‘$2,000?’ and they either say yes or no. If they’re like, ‘No’, then you have to lower your rate.

And some people would give you $2,000?
Yeah. And then I’d buy drugs.

Did you go to college?
Yeah, I did. I went to college at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago – for drawing and installation.

Did you finish?
No. I was going to finish it, but during my last year I got, like, really messed up. I was, like, a hardcore drug addict. I never went to class, and I would do a lot of drugs and drink, like, a handle (1.75 liters) of whiskey in a day. I just never finished.

So when you were addicted to drugs, what kind of high were you looking for?
Well, I’m sorta, like, a pretty, like, depressed person…

etc. etc.

xp to nkm is tent kinda like that too?

ya although i think it works a little better in that song than trapdoor

is there a thread yet?

anyhow- a mix

http://www.mediafire.com/?2z14z50mdun

oh shit, don't judge me but i really love these two white ring tracks :/

http://www.animationplayhouse.com/flying_witch.gif

As a side note, oOoOO wins for our favorite witch house band name, with runner-up awards going to GL▲SS †33†H, GR†LLGR†LL and ℑ⊇≥◊≤⊆ℜ.

this whole scene is a parody of itself and i can't wait for everyone to get bored with this

How do you pronounce ℑ⊇≥◊≤⊆ℜ

dig the idea of this genre. spotted a white ring/ooooo song on emusic, which led me to another song on the same label:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ345aH7dS8

is this "witch house"? i sure like it. it's electronic, cut-up stuff.

is this "witch house"?

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also we looked up the translated lyrics to ic3peak's "Грустная Сука" and they're pretty great:

I’m ruining your day with my dead pale face
I don’t care about you being triggered
Wild dogs are afraid both of me and of fire
That’s not a coincidence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf99kdFw9b8

if you were here too I'd still be by myself

Talking of Russian Witch House, I was just thinking about Vagina Vangi. They did a few EPs and things about five years ago, I liked this one -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvcQ4P2CcDo

(warning that it doesn't really get going until the second half)

And they did quite a few remixes of note, like this version of Ghetto Ass Witch by †‡†

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNEksbngz9E

They were definitely a bit cheesy but still exactly what I wanted from witch house.

https://www.nts.live/shows/physical-therapy/episodes/physical-therapy-22nd-march-2024

Witch House special!