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the Foucault lecture courses that have been coming out in english translation over the past few years are also great -- I find the lecture format really easy to follow (not that Foucault's other books are particularly offensive in this regard; just sayin'), and there's a lot of great stuff in there

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

lately my reading has been directed more toward early-20th century european philosophy (phenomenology, Diltheyan hermeneutics, various neo-Kantianisms) in an effort to get a better grasp on the origins of the main postwar intellectual (and some political) movements. and maybe to finally understand Heidegger, but I'm not holding my breath.

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSdHoNJu5fU

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

ha, was just about to post that. It's funny because it's true.

I'm currently doing my Masters dissertation in (continental) philosophy, fuck it all I say I'll just get a cosy office job. Altho my reading at this very moment is fun, Jacques Attali's Noise: The Political Economy of Music.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

really makes me want to read hegel and hausel to understand late heidegger to understand derrida (kinda thought socrates was supposed to be the key to derrida though)

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link

That clip is amazing. Also -- loved the Attali. A lot of my undergrad thesis was devoted to him.

Mordy, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost oh yeah I'm also hoping that, after reading some Husserl, I'll be able to (and still want to, heh) read Derrida's early stuff on him and maybe get a better understanding of JD's whole project

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

husserl is awesome but the phenomenological aspects of derrida are crazy confusing to me

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw this thread title and initially thought it would be about best approaches to throwing the D20 in a role playing game.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

man that clip is my h8ed approach to... everything really. "You can't understand x without y, z, or q". You could say that in any academic discipline, or any non-academic discipline. Fuck it. Secondary texts ftw.

btw another mostly lapsed MA here, although I keep up my subscription to The Philospher's Magazine.

sent from my neural lace (ledge), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

plax what's yr favorite husserl? I'm reading crisis of the european sciences right now but that's obv. a very late and not very representative work so I'm wonderin' what I should check out next.

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i read the cartesian meditations recently enough and its a pretty sweet intro.

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

the Foucault lecture courses that have been coming out in english translation over the past few years are also great -- I find the lecture format really easy to follow (not that Foucault's other books are particularly offensive in this regard; just sayin'), and there's a lot of great stuff in there

― INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:48 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

YES--birth of biopolitics is GREAT i think, not to mention the clearest/'easiest' of any foucault book ive read too.

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link

really makes me want to read hegel and hausel to understand late heidegger to understand derrida (kinda thought socrates was supposed to be the key to derrida though)

― plax (ico), Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:03 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i thought levinas was the key to derrida

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont even know who that is

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

smdh

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i will never understand derrida

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

fu omg

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

lol jk

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

lithuanian jew, student of husserl (and heidegger i believe?), key concepts 'the other' 'ethics as first philosophy' 'face-to-face' 'alterity'

derrida has two long essays about him--'violence and metaphysics' and a published (extended?) version of the eulogy he gave at levinas funeral

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

the key to derrida fyi is smokin pot and reading poetry

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think levinas was a student of heidegger (maybe yr thinkin' of marcuse?), but yeah, he was (I believe) the first french translator of husserl, and in general had a big influence on the french reception of phenomenology

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost halfway there; which poetry should I be readin'?

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Rilke, maybe?

Mordy, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

well holderlin obv

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

rimbaud dude

AESTHOLE (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

bob dylan

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

mallarme

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

shel silverstein

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

paul celan

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

nicki minaj

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

paul celan for sure.

Mordy, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I heard a lecture on Derrida + Celan last weekend.

Mordy, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

celan was the poet derrida wrote most about from what i can tell.

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

this (therefore) will not have been a thread

ksh, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

the best introduction to Derrida is the documentary Derrida — his waffle-preparing technique is the key to his entire philosophy project

ksh, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

or, "philosophical" project

ksh, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i am gonna look into these foucault lectures because they sound right up my alley but that means i will probably not read them for another 4 years because that's what i do :(

harbl, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

first book of Derrida's lectures was published last year too

ksh, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought jakobson and the structuralists was the key to derridas but I come from a lit theory background

dyao, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

by the way any philosophy book is improved 1000% if you imagine zizek reading it to you in his voice

dyao, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i sometimes make lectury gestures when i am reading philosophy bc i am explning it to myself

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm philosophy

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost yeah me too! (not in public tho, I don't have the stones fer that)

zizek's voice is great, and I have sometimes imitated it (in my head or aloud) while reading his stuff, but never thought of using it for other things. heh.

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i think when i read derrida i imagine it in Dennis Hopper's voice

sarahel, Friday, 18 June 2010 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link

50 Philosophy Blogs!

http://onlinechristiancolleges.net/50-philosophy-blogs-to-help-you-find-the-meaning-of-life/

Mordy, Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link

only two from that list I recognize/read sometimes are Larval Subjects and Object-Oriented Philosophy. but I still don't understand their whole "speculative realism" steeze.

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Saturday, 19 June 2010 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a speculative realism collection on its way, you can learn soon! Although really I don't think it's much of anything at all, beyond very broad sweeps like being a strain of continental thought that takes science more seriously and tries to put together more positive projects after years of deconstructive negativity and such.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 19 June 2010 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure Levinas studied under Heidegger, making the whole nazism and turn away from Heidegger all the more dramatic.

Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link

just got Quentin Meillasoux's After Finitude from Amazon -- anyone read it?

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link


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