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really makes me want to read hegel and hausel to understand late heidegger to understand derrida (kinda thought socrates was supposed to be the key to derrida though)

― plax (ico), Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:03 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i thought levinas was the key to derrida

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont even know who that is

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

smdh

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i will never understand derrida

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

fu omg

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

lol jk

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

lithuanian jew, student of husserl (and heidegger i believe?), key concepts 'the other' 'ethics as first philosophy' 'face-to-face' 'alterity'

derrida has two long essays about him--'violence and metaphysics' and a published (extended?) version of the eulogy he gave at levinas funeral

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

the key to derrida fyi is smokin pot and reading poetry

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think levinas was a student of heidegger (maybe yr thinkin' of marcuse?), but yeah, he was (I believe) the first french translator of husserl, and in general had a big influence on the french reception of phenomenology

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost halfway there; which poetry should I be readin'?

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Rilke, maybe?

Mordy, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

well holderlin obv

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

rimbaud dude

AESTHOLE (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

bob dylan

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

mallarme

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

shel silverstein

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

paul celan

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

nicki minaj

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

paul celan for sure.

Mordy, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I heard a lecture on Derrida + Celan last weekend.

Mordy, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

celan was the poet derrida wrote most about from what i can tell.

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

this (therefore) will not have been a thread

ksh, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

the best introduction to Derrida is the documentary Derrida — his waffle-preparing technique is the key to his entire philosophy project

ksh, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

or, "philosophical" project

ksh, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i am gonna look into these foucault lectures because they sound right up my alley but that means i will probably not read them for another 4 years because that's what i do :(

harbl, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

first book of Derrida's lectures was published last year too

ksh, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought jakobson and the structuralists was the key to derridas but I come from a lit theory background

dyao, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

by the way any philosophy book is improved 1000% if you imagine zizek reading it to you in his voice

dyao, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i sometimes make lectury gestures when i am reading philosophy bc i am explning it to myself

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm philosophy

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost yeah me too! (not in public tho, I don't have the stones fer that)

zizek's voice is great, and I have sometimes imitated it (in my head or aloud) while reading his stuff, but never thought of using it for other things. heh.

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i think when i read derrida i imagine it in Dennis Hopper's voice

sarahel, Friday, 18 June 2010 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link

50 Philosophy Blogs!

http://onlinechristiancolleges.net/50-philosophy-blogs-to-help-you-find-the-meaning-of-life/

Mordy, Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link

only two from that list I recognize/read sometimes are Larval Subjects and Object-Oriented Philosophy. but I still don't understand their whole "speculative realism" steeze.

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Saturday, 19 June 2010 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a speculative realism collection on its way, you can learn soon! Although really I don't think it's much of anything at all, beyond very broad sweeps like being a strain of continental thought that takes science more seriously and tries to put together more positive projects after years of deconstructive negativity and such.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 19 June 2010 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure Levinas studied under Heidegger, making the whole nazism and turn away from Heidegger all the more dramatic.

Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link

just got Quentin Meillasoux's After Finitude from Amazon -- anyone read it?

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

YES!

ksh, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

it's excellent!

ksh, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll need to read it many more times before I really understand it, but the stuff about the ancestral is so good

ksh, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

cool thread! current readings:
Deleuze - The Logic of Sense
Foucault - The Order of Things
Selected Writings of Nicholas of Cusa
and as always reading and re-reading Peirce for my dissertation.

anyone here into radical constructivism or second order cybernetics? (Heinz von Foerster, Spencer-Brown, Humberto Maturana, Niklas Luhmann, Francisco Varela, etc etc) Not philosophy proper but in truth i think it sheds a lot of light in that direction.

ryan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

don't recognize most of those names... I'm curious about Luhmann (only know about him thru Habermas), but haven't read any yet -- I get the impression that his work would dovetail with Latour, who I quite like, but maybe I'm way off-base. also interested in cybernetics, but I feel like I need to really bone up on math before I can get anything out of it.

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah Latour is certainly close to those guys, as is Michel Serres.

ryan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

looking at After Finitude on amazon, looks pretty cool, gonna pick it up.

ryan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Thinking about buying Leo Damrosch's Tocqueville's Discovery of America, anyone heard anything good about it? (Yes, probably more of a history than poly phi, but I've wanted to read something Tocqueville related for awhile.)

Mordy, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

God, I was grumpy the other day. To make it up, here is a neat comic done by my mate, called Being & Tim. It is mostly philosophy dork jokes, and thus is very funny.

emil.y, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

A++ emil.y, your friend's comics are great

ksh, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

looking at After Finitude on amazon, looks pretty cool, gonna pick it up.

― ryan, Sunday, June 20, 2010 6:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark


reading/discussion group, anyone?!

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry, that exclamation point was maybe a bit much

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

If you guys wanna start a reading group I'll pick it up and participate when I get home.

Mordy, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link


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