― spittle (spittle), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:06 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:10 (twenty years ago) link
― spittle (spittle), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:14 (twenty years ago) link
MBV sounded horrible up until they signed to Creation and recorded Isn't Anything...
This is untrue considering that the Strawberry Wine, You Made Me Realise, and Feed Me With Your Kiss EPs all arrived before 'Isn't Anything'. Not to mention the 'Ecstacy' mini-LP which is excellent as well. Some people even like the stuff before it, but that Dave Coway singer is just wrong.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:57 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 27 November 2003 08:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 November 2003 08:17 (twenty years ago) link
What he said. My god, why am I still awake?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 November 2003 08:17 (twenty years ago) link
Second, the vocals are way too upfront in the mix. Ouch. The drums sound like they're coming from down the hall.
The guitar sound is great of course.
― Debito (Debito), Thursday, 27 November 2003 08:25 (twenty years ago) link
That's why it's so great, in part. Yay!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 November 2003 08:26 (twenty years ago) link
You sensed a disturbance in the force, no doubt.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 27 November 2003 08:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 November 2003 08:31 (twenty years ago) link
― spittle (spittle), Thursday, 27 November 2003 09:07 (twenty years ago) link
(PLease someone scrub my brain right now cause if you don't get the image of Bobby G in a bathtub out of my head RIGHT NOW I'm going to do no work at all today, and I'm going to be stuck in this office for the rest of time.)
― Citizen Kate (kate), Thursday, 27 November 2003 09:19 (twenty years ago) link
no pics for you
― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 27 November 2003 09:22 (twenty years ago) link
can this be explained? you can't compare things unless they came out in the same year?? psychocandy's signal fault is that it all sound the same, and buys into boring drugs-and-shades-and-spector-beat mythology. isn't anything is kerlassic. there's the comparison.
― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 09:27 (twenty years ago) link
So yummy, so chewy, the pop, naked Bobby G... aaaaaahhhh...
― Citizen Kate (kate), Thursday, 27 November 2003 09:30 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 27 November 2003 09:32 (twenty years ago) link
― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 09:33 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 27 November 2003 10:12 (twenty years ago) link
actually, it was recorded and released by a huge major label (Warner Brothers) with a fuckload of capital.
― Marc R, Thursday, 27 November 2003 10:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Rock Chimp, Friday, 28 November 2003 10:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:42 (twenty years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:50 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:51 (twenty years ago) link
i remember seeing the posters seeming bigger than other typical posters, and looking at the overall band art, and thinking "this psychocandy is really getting the corporate marketing treatment".
i think stereo quality in their equipment was quite a lot more varied back then amoungst people, so suspicions like that from back then don't surprise me. The idea that stereo fidelity has something to do with it, i don't know that something like that could be used in the marketing today, as it was then.
― george gosset (gegoss), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:01 (twenty years ago) link
Yes indeed. (He says while finishing listening to it.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 06:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 29 January 2005 06:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 07:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 29 January 2005 10:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 29 January 2005 11:09 (nineteen years ago) link
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― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 09:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Russell Dixon (Skinny), Thursday, 9 March 2006 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Fish is Biodegradable! (That Means It Rots) (kate), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Raw, Uncompromising, and Noodly (noodle vague), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (Thank God Tastes Change) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Russell Dixon (Skinny), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raw, Uncompromising, and Noodly (noodle vague), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Fish is Biodegradable! (That Means It Rots) (kate), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Merryweather (scarlet), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Russell Dixon (Skinny), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― js (honestengine), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000006NL3.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg
― The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Fish is Biodegradable! (That Means It Rots) (kate), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link
The only way to fully appreciate Psychocandy is via a cassette-recorded copy made in the studio of a university radio station, using an inferior turntable and the station's well-worn-to-the-point-of-whiteness-paler-than-the-Reid brothers' complexions vinyl version. (I later bought an official actual cassette and it didn't measure up.)
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 29 June 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Psychocandy is today's 'seminal album' being given away with The Times / WHSmith
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/commercial/article4867507.ece
― koogs, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I think I only have this on napster-download-circa-2001 mp3 so I'll probably buy that.
― jim, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 09:49 (fifteen years ago) link
It is supposed to sound that way. It's called "shoegazing". See also My Bloody Valentine, which is an even more typical example of the same.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link
> See also My Bloody Valentine, which is an even more typical example of the same.
you talk as if mbv only ever released one lp...
― koogs, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link
pls do not associate JAMC with lame MBV thx!
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link
by the way the first post is cute
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think the record sounds like crap. But I prefer the band's sound on their early 12" singles. They have this three-dimensional/dub feel that seems to be missing from Psychocandy.
― QuantumNoise, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link
another day goes by meanother day, a month and a yearand as I look around meI feel so lonely there's no one hereno one here beside meno one here to help to see me throughto see me throughto see me through'cause I need you'cause I need youbeen standing still for much too longand I realise there's something wrongI'm feeling strange, I need a changeand I realise thatthere's something wrongthere's something wrongthere's something wronganother two years overdon't understand what's happened to methese days are so much colderup against the fire, dont feel any heatcracked up years behind mecracked up years ahead are all I seeare all I see
― baaderonixx, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I think the debt is pretty obvious and acknowledged.
Trivia: Douglas Hart has done the amazing visuals for the new MBV tour.
Also, MBV lame? No.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
come on now
― Bright Future (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link
The debt went the other way, though, didn't it? Obviously MBV's debt to Jesus & Mary Chain was great.
Both owe a great debt to Velvet Underground, with the exception that JAMC were influenced both by the good Velvets tracks("Sunday Morning", "Candy Says" etc.) and the bad ones ("Sister Ray", "Heroin" etc.), whereas MBV were only influenced by Velvets at their worst and most noisy and unlistenable.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
yes surely MBV gave nary a second thought to Sunday Morning how true
― ian, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost, that is obviously what I'm saying.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link
regarding the direction of the debt.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Geir I honestly wonder how familiar you are with MBV. Very pretty melodies all over the place.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Fact: Psychocandy sounds best on scratched up vinyl through blown speakers.
― Pillbox, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link
No idea. I have listened to their albums several times. I can hear there are melodies buried somewhere in there, but getting them into my head, which is obviously needed to judge them, is impossible because of that wall of guitar noise.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Smoke some weed first
― Niles Caulder, Thursday, 9 October 2008 01:04 (fifteen years ago) link
some days I think the best thing JAMC ever did was get mentioned in the liner notes to Evol or which ever it was
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 9 October 2008 01:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I can't see how Geir would dislike "Sunny Sundae Smile" or "Lovely Sweet Darlene".
― Trayce, Thursday, 9 October 2008 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link
(ie Loveless is NOT THE ONLY THING THEY DID FFS)
maybe because he's a cloth-eared fuckwit
― Deep House, M.D. (haitch), Thursday, 9 October 2008 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link
i never really had a problem with the sound of this record, mainly just the repetitive song structures and general lack of variety. i've reconciled myself to this though over the last few years and now love the record pretty much unconditionally.
― Charlie Howard, Friday, 26 December 2008 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link
so basically u foreced urself to liek it.
― descendent of warlocks (The Brainwasher), Friday, 26 December 2008 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link
sorta deal
― Charlie Howard, Friday, 26 December 2008 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link
It sounds that way on purpose. I like "Darklands" better because it has the vocals more in the forefront of the production.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 26 December 2008 03:46 (fifteen years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/santabot.jpg
― I Was a Teenage Armchair Hongro Fan (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 December 2008 13:12 (fifteen years ago) link
well, the current live version of this album sounds absolutely bloody epic.there are these huge basslines courtesy of phil 'lush/union jackson/etc' king, that i had never heard before tonights rendition in bristol.i never heard the proper remasters, so have no idea if those editions revealed the bass.and as for the drums.wow.i did not expect to be as impressed as i was.
― mark e, Friday, 27 February 2015 00:16 (nine years ago) link
Still trying (and failing) to “get” this album. I guess you had to be there.
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 22:50 (two years ago) link
i guess so, what is there to get? it is a good album.
― akm, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 00:31 (two years ago) link
Yeah, you'd have to listen to the top twenty of the chart, and the independant album chart for a bit, and then play it, and then you may have context.
I don't think it's needed, really.
Some might say "Darklands" is the better album now, but.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 09:43 (two years ago) link
darklands isn't as distinctive but i certainly prefer it
― ufo, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 10:15 (two years ago) link
21 Singles is all I need, really.
Happy birthday, Jim Reid.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 10:30 (two years ago) link