The Cure boxset "Join the Dots", the tracklisting is here!!!!!

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Of course. *seethe*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Oh I do love this band. All the various complaints above about how the fourth disc was crap are rendered invalid due to the presence of "Possession," "Coming Up," both versions of "Signal to Noise" and the alternate mixes of "This is a Lie," 'Out of This World" and "Maybe Someday."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 November 2004 05:55 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
half way through the first disc, I'm realizing that either:
-I really don't like the Cure as much as I thought.
-or-
-There is a lot of unnecessary shit in this collection.

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 30 December 2004 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Just wait until you hear the second half of the first disc. Then, if you're still feeling the same way then you probably don't like the Cure as much as you thought you did.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 30 December 2004 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link

(Since the second option is impossible. Then again, I am biased.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 December 2004 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, it is improving.. However, I don't expect to be listening to it often as a collection. A song at a time, here & there ....

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 30 December 2004 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link

its the last one (what 4th) that is best used as a drink coaster

kephm, Friday, 31 December 2004 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

*reviews tracklist* In my mind, not with these on it:

01. HOME
02. WAITING
04. THIS IS A LIE (palmer remix)
07. WORLD IN MY EYES
08. POSSESSION
09. OUT OF THIS WORLD (oakenfold remix)
10. MAYBE SOMEDAY (hedges remix)
11. COMING UP
12. SIGNAL TO NOISE (acoustic version)
13. SIGNAL TO NOISE
15. A FOREST (plati/slick version)

Again, though, I am biased.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I think CD4 is the second best disc in the collection (after CD1, of course). I was in no way expecting it to be that good.

In fact, I'm listing to "Maybe Someday" right now (with CD1 and CD4 queued up in Winamp)! Funny how that sort of thing happens when threads get revived, huh?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:09 (nineteen years ago) link

true enough my friend-(oh i just can not get into 'signal to noise' at all!)
as i've said before, the whole thing is worth it for the flexi pop version of lament alone. & the booklet is packed with some good bits.

what has been reissued already? other than BoysDontCry (cause i think its the bonus tracks on these, that i need)

xpost: yeah i just put it on myself, been a few months

kephm, Friday, 31 December 2004 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link

kephm, Friday, 31 December 2004 01:17 (nineteen years ago) link

what has been reissued already? other than BoysDontCry (cause i think its the bonus tracks on these, that i need)

That's it so far -- the next set (17 through Pornography) is not yet confirmed for release but rumor suggests February or March.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:18 (nineteen years ago) link

oh good, that works with my student-loan-paying battered and bruised bank account.

i'm glad to hear im not the last man on earth still using Winmp

kephm, Friday, 31 December 2004 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link

People don't use Winamp anymore? Did I not get the memo?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 31 December 2004 01:27 (nineteen years ago) link

i blame the internet. i mean doesnt everyone have an ipod these days. cause i dont. yeah i saw a kid i mean a baby almost, holdng an ipo the other day. in his fat little fist. must of been all of three years old. thing was using it to wipe his ass. crazy. i have no idea what i was talking about, a thousand apologies sir.

kephm, Friday, 31 December 2004 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link

ipo
ipoo
?
someome run with this, please, photoslop nerds.


on second thought, no

kephm, Friday, 31 December 2004 02:02 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Hopefully someone will find this, I'm just wondering if Join the Dots contains all the b-sides off the officially released singles. I mean I see that it doesn't have the extended version of Just One Kiss, etc and remixes of the singles, but does it contain at least a version of every officially released b-side. I've decided I'm interested in collecting their 12"s and I'd like to start with the ones with b-sides not included here (since I plan to buy Join the Dots soon). Of course I could do the research, but I'm at work and I'll bet someone already knows this.

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 1 April 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link

The things the box set is missing that spring to mind are:

"Primary" (Red Mix)
"Let's Go To Bed" (Milk Mix)
various "Wrong Number" mixes
"Gone!" (Ultraliving mix)
"Spilt Milk"
"Watching Me Fall" (Massive Attack remix)
2004 tracks

There are some other WMS-era remixes that are missing (at least one other remix of "Gone!", a remix of "Strange Attraction" and a remix of "The 13th") and I think there was a live version of "100 Years" that was on "The Hanging Garden" 12".

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks Ghost of Dan. But most of everything other than remixes and post-WMS stuff is here? Thats great. Thanks so much.

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's pretty comprehensive up through Blooflowers.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Blooflowers sounds so twee.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 April 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Bleufleurs

The Ghost of Ooh La La (Dan Perry), Friday, 1 April 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Blurflurries

donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 2 April 2005 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link

BLURFILLAZ

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 2 April 2005 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
sounds fascinating!

Baaderonixx ménage ses forces dans l'attente du Grand Soir (baaderonixx), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

"The hot and sticky pillowman is
SMOTHERING MY FACE AGAIN!"

Said it about a year ago, let me repeat -- god, what a band, and what a collection.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 November 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Does nobody else hate the "Chuck remix" of "Just Like Heaven"? I mean, why bother? It was pretty close to perfect before. J. Mascis brought a new and fresh angle to the song, but this is just an unnecessary butchering of one of The Cure's best moments.

j-rock, Thursday, 27 September 2007 11:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Ugh why did you invoke Dinosaur Jr

HI DERE, Thursday, 27 September 2007 11:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Agreed

baaderonixx, Thursday, 27 September 2007 11:50 (sixteen years ago) link

unagreed.

Mark G, Thursday, 27 September 2007 12:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Funniest thing ever -- Dinosaur Jr., opening for the Cure at the Rose Bowl 1992. They play said cover. Most of the crowd: "UH?"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 September 2007 12:30 (sixteen years ago) link

To say nothing of the people running from the merch/food tents...

Mark G, Thursday, 27 September 2007 12:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I think that that particular version of "Just Like Heaven" is much more successful at evoking the breezy island flavor that 311 was going for with their "Lovesong" cover. It's not all that great but it's successful at what it does (ditto the remix of "The Caterpillar").

The William Orbit mix of "Inbetween Days" is still one of the greatest things ever recorded.

HI DERE, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

urgh - I hate all the remixes you mentionned, esp the "Inbetween Days" one. What's there to like?

baaderonixx, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link

EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, except maybe the fact that it ends.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link

What Ned said. Everything about that remix is brilliant:

- the fact that it's rather unapologetically 4/4 dancefloor fodder that still encapsulates the original dance-pop-rock infectiousness of the original;
- the synth burbles floating throughout;
- the pitch-shifting on the original components of the song to make it match the new stompy BPM;
- the all-out euphoric assault that builds from the opening and never stops;
- etc etc etc it's just plain awesome!

I agree with you about the "Just Like Heaven" and "Caterpillar" remixes, which is why I said they weren't too great.

HI DERE, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Mark Saunders' Everything remix of "The Walk" will always be my favorite.

matt2, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

The remix of "A Forest" is pretty damn boss, too.

HI DERE, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Hah yeah the Walk remix used to be my testing-new-audio-equipement favorite. Hmm, I'm gonna have to give the 'IBD' remix another spin but I rememeber hating that "synth burble" and the pitch shift used to make me sea-sick.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

I just got this and I must say I'm having a lot of fun with it. It's interesting to see what slipped through the cracks for me, cause I would have thought myself pretty familiar with everything up through Disintegration. Like, I can't understand why I saw that Half An Octopus 10"/Quadpus 12" thing so many damn times in stores and yet it never occured to me to buy it. I guess I didn't understand there was a track on there I hadn't got elsewhere. Or maybe I didn't think it would be worth the money. I really don't know.

Also a grand surprise are the Catch b-sides (I swear to god I never even saw that 12" in stores, for real - I looked up the sleeve online and it rings zero bells for me) and the Just Like Heaven 12" b-sides. I don't recall ever owning that 12" either, but I'm not sure why.

That flexi version of Lament is um...nothing to get excited about, though...;)

Bimble, Saturday, 19 January 2008 02:03 (sixteen years ago) link

"To The Sky" leaves me weak at the knees. That might just be the best thing here.

Bimble, Saturday, 19 January 2008 02:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I am amazed that they managed to turn the Doors' "Hello, I Love You" into a fantastic goth song. It's cool that it's mostly instrumental, too.

Bimble, Saturday, 19 January 2008 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link

By that I mean the "unreleased psychedelic mix", not the other one. The other one is not goth.

Bimble, Saturday, 19 January 2008 02:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait - I resurrected a Cure thread on ILM and no one responded??

HA! What a laugh.

Bimble, Saturday, 26 January 2008 10:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Most of the Kiss Me b-sides are pretty great. I like them more than the album, in fact. When I bought it, it came with a bonus orange LP with all the b-sides and that's the one I always played.

f. hazel, Saturday, 26 January 2008 10:26 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Can anyone confirm if there is indeed an audible amount of clipping/distortion/etc. on the version of 'A Chain of Flowers' on disc 2?

I just bought a new set of speakers and it's driving me mad trying to figure out if its the speakers or the cd!!

Cheers!

AnotherDeadHero, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 08:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, it clips... around 2:24, 3:08, other places too.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 09:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Cool, thanks.

The problems I'm having are with the guitar lines in the intro souding really shrill and distorted.

AnotherDeadHero, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 09:18 (thirteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Clearmountain mix of How Beautiful You Are; amazing! wasn't there some story that Clearmountain was hired to remix the whole KMKMKM album by the Cure's manager? i know he did all the singles too.

piscesx, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 11:47 (eight years ago) link


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