quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

Gonna drop them in it? That's skeevy.

huh?

Think they ought to declare an association in the clarifications and corrections dept.

"peter's axes are totally, like, a thing"

"let's give him a little PR, he's had a rough time lately"

"should i mention that he used to sit next to me?"

"you mean when he bothered coming in?"

"yeah"

"it's not really relevant, is it?"

"i guess not"

http://rlv.zcache.com/mee_ow_postcard-p239757717745542191trdg_400.jpg

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fwiw i have nothing against peter, he always was always pretty nice and refreshingly un-frothy when we hung out (tho i was mainly buddies w/his ex) - like pretty much every other example on this thread my extreme irritation is not with the subject of the piece but with the way it's written and presented; which details are included, and which ones - like that peter used to edit the op-ed art for the same fucking newspaper that's currently giving him a gigantic PR boost - are conveniently omitted

well that and the apparent diktat given to all style writers to include the rental price of their subjects' apartments

I don't really have a problem with this article, if only because a really nice axe will probably run you a hundred bucks by itself. It's not like he's selling $10000 diamond-studded axes, you could still use these for work.

if you want people to think you're not wearing that flannel ironically, buy that hipster axe

wait

if only because a really nice axe will probably run you a hundred bucks by itself.

No.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?keyword=axe&langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=wood-handle+axe&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=8QQyTIWPHoL88AafuO3ICw&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CDYQrQQwAg

Dull, made in China with inferior materials != "really nice axe."

http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/Large+Splitting+Axe/part_number=442/235.0.1.1.0.0.0.0.0?

I mean, the Home Depots are probably serviceable, with some attention to sharpening, but anything made with better materials in the US (or Scandinavia) is going to cost more. It probably doesn't apply to the hipster axes, but there's nothing wrong with buying good tools that will last forever and can be passed down from generation to generation.

milo I see your point, but this:

I don't really have a problem with this article, if only because a really nice axe will probably run you a hundred bucks by itself.

vs.

One morning late last winter, a barista at the City Girl Café on Thompson Street who was making coffee for a bleary-eyed Mr. Buchanan-Smith startled his customer by exclaiming, “You’re the ax man!” The barista, who had seen Mr. Buchanan-Smith’s photo in New York magazine, then worked out a payment plan to buy one. (Axes start at $180.)

How much do you think a barista in Manhattan would typically spend on an axe?

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&q=%22using+my+best+made+axe%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=36ec6be010d257f

No results found for "using my best made axe".

Best Made = J Peterman x McSweeney's

i think you'd be arrested in london if you "wore" an axe around like that.

Designers like Mr. Buchanan-Smith don't just have "stuff." They are constant arrangers and vignette-builders. On a window sill: a plumb bob, a bottle of cologne, a moth.

No results found for "using my best made axe".

People buying them in NYC is silly, sure. No more or less silly than buying a $200 watch or whatever, though.

you could actually use a $200 watch on a daily basis, and it probably would keep running and look good for a long time. i wonder how many people in nyc would buy one of the axes just to hang it on a wall?

I'm pretty sure lots of people pay $180 and more for stuff that they just to hang on a wall

you're only pretty sure of it? cmon man, take a stand.

well, I haven't actually done a survey or anything, maybe nobody actually buys all those paintings I regularly see costing more than $180.

are the axes being sold as art or as a quality tool?

I think the part that's annoying to me is I wouldn't mind people who just wanted to hang well-designed axes on their wall as objets d'art, it's that, for these buyers, a well designed axe isn't enough without having a couple racing stripes on it to indicate that it's passed through a design gatekeeper and been marked. But now that it's a SANCTIONED design piece, it's all good to hang on the wall.

why can't it be both?

xp

Color, pattern, and play are the guiding factors in everything we make. Even though it’s “just an axe” it’s a blank canvas with endless possibilities. When the axe is finished we sit down and think of names. The naming process is crucial: it’s where we give the axe the beginning of its story, albeit a very short story (we purposefully do not caption the axes, just give them names) because we know our customers are inventive enough to create the real ongoing story.

that's a bit precious isn't it..

this sort of thing needs a gilbert sorrentino to embalm it forever in a thoroughly devastating snapshot of a ridiculous age, really

/exposure of actual intentions for this thread

you could actually use a $200 watch on a daily basis, and it probably would keep running and look good for a long time. i wonder how many people in nyc would buy one of the axes just to hang it on a wall?

The point is that the people in this article aren't choosing between a cheap axe and an expensive one with the same utility, they're choosing an expensive product with no utility to them.

okay, add in "why bother having one at all, when you can just look at your phone," then.

Once more, with feeling: Thorstein Veblen to thread!

okay, add in "why bother having one at all, when you can just look at your phone," then.

I guarantee more Manhattan residents use watches than use axes.

xp I own a Veblen good, but I use it

a $30 timex - battery will probably go dead, case will get scratched up, strap is cheap material and will wear out, all within about 6 months to a year. at least for me - i wear it every day. so then you have to buy another one. also i rather check the time on my watch than going through my bag and trying to find my phone. so i might buy one in the $150-$200 range if it isn't likely to wear out & make me go to the trouble of replacing something or buying a new one. but i am 100% against buying stuff that looks expensive just to show off! i'd get one with no details, no logo, as simple as possible basically.

I just wear an $180 axe and use it as a sundial.

The point is that the people in this article aren't choosing between a cheap axe and an expensive one with the same utility, they're choosing an expensive product with no utility to them.

― I DIED, Monday, July 5, 2010 2:04 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban

who effing cares if some new yorker wants to spend $200 on something they think looks nice on their wall

I mean seriously dealwithit.gif

there are better things out there for u to feel superior about

I make a living doing design work, so I actually care a lot about contemporary design culture and the way in which the NYT coverage of it steers trends. There are a lot of other threads where we don't discuss silly NYT articles.

i blow minds for a living

personally

what's your rate?

which of the following things is most to blame for this thread

1) rich people

2) new york city

3) the new york times

4) design, the concept of

5) modernity

6) alienation

7) the internet

8) utility, the concept of

commodity fetishism

9) write-in (commodity fetishism)

and butt tattoos

what's your rate?

― kate78, Monday, July 5, 2010 5:38 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

i start at $180

just enough for your very own design axe!

if this article is to be believed there is a huge market out there for ordinary household objects spraypainted in garish colors and tagged with cute & quirky bios

be on the lookout for "Best Made Rubber Plunger", a rubber plunger you'll be proud to leave your grandkids that comes in attractive Jamaican flag colors

fuck them, I'm getting buried w/ mine