this is a good thread. a clean thread. a good clean thread.
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i will go back and become retroactively confused with the earlier results once todays wind down, but now im LIVEBLOGGIN YALL
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
i also dont understand why people hate 808's and heartbreak so much, i like it and think that it is fun.
this winehouse thing is kinda right up there with my hall and oates issues of the past week, i really cant comprehend the enjoyment of some things on any level
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean throw in people repping for "walking on sunshine" and ill just give up and cut my ears off or something
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
SPOILER ALERT: i dont think that belphegor - bondage goat zombie is going to make the cut at this point.
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
;_;
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4Bc5K9LMmk
BUT IT CAN STILL MAKE THE ITR COUNTDOWN
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
ALONG WITH UL.VER
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
(WHICH WAS MY #1 OBV)
YEAH THIS IS KICKASS JJ \m/ \m/
ROAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHH ALSO HAIL SATAN
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Because people are too invested in the narrative of Kanye as an unlikable, egomaniacal jackass to get into that album, which has a lot of his best production and some really fantastic to-my-ears intentionally-self-deflating songs (like, anyone listening to "Paranoid" or "Robocop" or "Heartless" with the mindframe that we are supposed to come away from it agreeing with the point of view presented by the songs consumes and processes art in a manner completely foreign to me).
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Rachel is/was the hot one from S Club 7
Hannah > Tina > Rachel > Jo.
Also 808 is just 'ooooh poor me, my life of lots of money and attractive women is sooo hard. pity me. i said pity me! btw brb, gonna go do loads of coke and sleep with bald girls, but don't you stop feeling sorry for me while i'm away. also i r above rapping now.'
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
so basically your argument is "back in the pigeonhole I have created for you, Kanye"
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
man i think this once again gets back to the whole thing we talked about uh somewhere in another thread about making the basic assumption of characters in songs vs. taking songs as statements of purpose/reality. like really to me (and uh dont get me wrong i am pretty into a good lyric) at the end of the day i cant really work a lot of the actual person into the song persona because that isnt how songs work for me.
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
however i am pretty sure the dude in belphegor does in fact have a goat zombie that he uses for S&M gratification
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
THAT SHIT IS JUST TOO REAL FOR YOU SQUARES TO HANDLE
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
It really isn't. I am not one of these people who got pissy at Andre 3000 for not rapping as much. But Kanye doing it, and then 'returning' as if rap 'needed' him is just eurgh. Like the genre couldn't survive with one dude going off singing and being a dickhole. And again, its really not hard to make an album to get people to sympathise with you and yr personal problems, just don't act like a dick about it ("my friend should me pictures of his kids, and all i could show him was my brand new cribs" being a way to start an album at the biggest time of foreclosures in decades is a p big dick move imo. etc etc etc)
Beats are nice tho.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, that's the thing; maybe I am approaching this differently not because I'm a performer but because of the type of performing I do and the way I write, but even things that could conceivably be linked to me and my life aren't actually me when I am singing about them; like, I wrote a song about how I wanted to kill myself after my brother died, but when I sing that song I am not actually saying "btw I want to kill myself because my brother died". I am telling a story based on some emotions and experiences from my past, but the voice is a character.
Now, there are certain things that come through when you adopt certain characters that may come across as repellent, which may be your intent but may not be, which is why the whole n-word thread happened; there are certain topics that you need to be sure that your communication is on point otherwise all you will do is piss people off and brand yourself an asshole. (Arguably EVERY topic you write about should have this same attention to communication, if only to make sure that you interrogate your work from several angles and are okay with the differing responses it may evoke; "careful communication" does not equal "this song means this and this only and I will spell it out in unambiguous detail".)
xp: well Kanye's "return to rap" is the real point where his ego steps in; I see it less in his actual work and more in what projects he decides to do next and how he promotes himself. Also, to run off of that example, I don't think the timing of the financial collapse was really his fault or undermines the point made by that line, which is that Kanye-the-character is upset that he sacrificed making time for personal relationship and starting a family for acquiring wealth and that he feels empty inside in a manner that, to his eyes, his friend with a family does not.
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
ok yeah i get that. maybe i should add '+ half the lyrics are super embarrassing and he needs to go back to getting ghostwriters to help him.'
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
tried clicking on a random song and got HOW COULD YALL BE SO DR EVIL proving my point.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Kanye has been the king of embarrassing lyrics for his entire career with perhaps the sole exceptions of "Gold Digger" and "Love Lockdown" so I'm not overly mad at him for that.
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link
oh and "Diamonds From Sierra Leone" too
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah but... aw hell i am just losing this here. I dunno, I guess his stupid lyrics used to have some charm that he started losing on Graduation for me (see stronger or drunk & hot girls or the chris martin one or the one about wanting to bum jay z or whatever) and mix in his whiny singing and i just stopped caring.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
feel free to carry on w/this discussion, but i am going to post my lists of:
THINGS I HAVE NEVER HEARD FROM ENTRIES 100-68
98. CAMERA OBSCURA Let's Get Out of This Country (2006) [183 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]97. RHYTHM & SOUND See Mi Yah (2005) [185 points, 9 votes]96. CARIBOU Andorra (2007) [187.5 points, 9 votes]93. NE-YO Year of the Gentleman (2008) [195.5 points, 10 votes]91. LOS CAMPESINOS! Hold On Now, Youngster... (2008) [197 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote]89. VITALIC OK Cowboy (2005) [200 points, 10 votes]88. ART BRUT Bang Bang Rock & Roll (2005) [200.5 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote]84. FUCK BUTTONS Tarot Sport (2009) [206 points, 12 votes]81. DJ SPRINKLES Midtown 120 Blues (2009) [208.5 points, 10 points]79. WOLF PARADE Apologies to the Queen Mary (2005) [210.5 points, 10 votes]76. ELLEN ALLIEN & APPARAT Orchestra of Bubbles (2006) [212 points, 12 votes]73. VON SUDENFELD Tromatic Reflexxions (2007) [220.5 points, 9 votes]71. RACHEL STEVENS Come and Get It (2005) [223 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]69. KELLEY POLAR Love Songs of the Hanging Gardens (2005) [225.5 points, 11 votes]
THINGS I ACTIVELY DISLIKE IN PLACES 100-6878. MADONNA Confessions on a Dance Floor (2005) [211 points, 8 votes]72. AMY WINEHOUSE Back to Black (2006) [223 points, 9 votes]
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link
this is why polls on ILM make me normally feel like a moron
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
dude okay I don't know if you will dig them but SRSLY CHECK OUT VITALIC AND ELLEN ALLIEN/APPARAT
also Ne-Yo is like about the only current pop r&b dude worth a damn IMO
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
toss me some track names and i will throw them in the old youtube wayback machine
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
might as well not link to them here because lol iphone doesnt recognize youtube links on ILX
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
lol this thread! i'm not even gonna check that ilm thread anymore
― Aerosol, Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link
hahahaha ok i lied about vitalic, if someone had said "you know, the video with slow motion dogs and lasers" i would have known the error of my ways.
"Poney no 1 (slomo dogs and lasers remix)" is ok i guess, this "la rock 01" song is way weirder and more appealing to me, i feel like it could have crawled out of some weird pocket of the early 90s TC industrial rave scene, that wheedly high pitched wiggle thing is awesome. "My friend Dario" is fucking unmitigated electroclash garbage tho, gross.
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link
actually musically the song is ok, but somebody needs to shut that singing lady the fuck up.
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
ellen allien & apparat - listening to "Way Out" and uh. a little bored. not really down with floaty mushy vocals over the top of my techno i guess? def way more interested in vitalic based on what ive heard so far.
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
ok in the home stretch of "way out" and now ive moved on to hating the singer (not as much as that vitalic thing, but still. a lot.)
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link
ok way more into "Leave Me Alone", some really odd interesting things going on here, it sounds all lurching and broken, dude singing also works much better for me, like a creaky new order vocal thing going on. i really like this a lot actually.
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Hannah > Tina > Rachel > Jo
This has always been the correct order, well done.
― Puyol Live in a Yellow Submarine (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I'd offer to guide peeps through the zone with stuff i dig from the list so far, but as i mentioned upthread i am apparently a moron that doesnt hear as much music as he thinks he does, so unless somebody needs a hard sell on Future Of The Left or the liars album, i got nothing for you prob unless you live in a darker cave than me and haven't heard "My President"
xpost wait huh what
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link
oh i see. sigh. i am old and feeble and confused
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link
lol got distracted by work but you already picked up the Vitalic/Ellen Allien & Apparat tracks I would have recommended
"La Rock 01" would have been very high on my track ballot assuming I remembered to nominate it
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link
if you promise me that there is nothing else like "My Friend Dario" in the vitalic catalog i will prob seek it out once i get home (uh and finish recovering files from my dead hard drive)
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
also is the female vocal on the ellen allien a regular thing, because that will be a problem.
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha i rescind my liars offer, that is the album i hate, never mind
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Vitalic's Flashmob album is great, too
btw if you dig the music but are annoyed with the vocalist on EA&A, check out Moderat, specifically "A New Error", "Rusty Nails", "Sick with It" and "Porc #1"
EA&A switch back and forth between her and the dude from Apparat
also lol @ u because u hate gurls
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link
97. RHYTHM & SOUND See Mi Yah (2005) [185 points, 9 votes]
depends on how into reggae you are, as a sound, but this kicks ass
― goole, Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
hmmm reggae can be a problem
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link
actually it might not, since i'm not the biggest reggae fan in the world and i like that album a lot. heavy as fuck.
lol xp
― goole, Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link
ok so now that weve established that i hate women and jamaicans where do we go from here
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link
hxtp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QEi4FRWMwQ
also, since I'm already recommending everything else on this record label, this is Modeselektor at a live set doing a fucking great track off of their Happy Birthday! album
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Hey im bored, so i am going to defend listening to Liars in the modern day with a song from their new album, which is not the one that made the countdown, because that one sucks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baq3EjdZ7vw
NOTE: dont get all weird on me and stop listening halfway through, its a slow build and then big payoffs from there you fuckers.
― NO NO NO NO NO ok (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Start sounds exactly like a Drums Not Dead song so I don't get yr point?
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link
bump for my feelings as described in thread title about "dear science" TVOTR
― SAIL HATIN' (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
basically oh look a new tv on the radio album lets NAP
― SAIL HATIN' (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I love looking at threads like these because I feel like I totally enter into foreign territory. Like, how bad is it that I almost never recognize any of the artist names, either. I'm going to try to blame nursing school, but seriously only recognizing, like, 4 names at all? (And one of them is Kylie Minogue?! UH)
― Sara R-C, Friday, 4 February 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
going to need this again i think
this selena gomez thing is ok in a "didnt madonna already do that "Music" album a while ago" way. actually i like it less and less the more i hear. her voice is boring to me, altho proficient i guess.
does anything ever actually happen in this gang gang dance song
― blurgh (jjjusten), Monday, 23 January 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
ok it isnt bad per se but it is about 8 minutes too long
― blurgh (jjjusten), Monday, 23 January 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
haha yeah, from what ppl said on the thread it basically functions as a prelude on the album?
― Chaka Collar, lemme rock you (DJP), Monday, 23 January 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
i already said what i had to say about this pistol annies nonsense on the main thread
i am shocked to discover that i think i actually like this tune-yards thingy, the arpeggiated vocal stuff is interesting - this sounds like somebody that listened to a lot of the right peter gabriel records but maybe took some of the vocal tricks a little too much to heart.
― blurgh (jjjusten), Monday, 23 January 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
oh hey we're back
anyway I sent you a tune-yards song I like via Spotify; overall I definitely ADMIRE her stuff more than I actually LIKE it
― Chaka Collar, lemme rock you (DJP), Monday, 23 January 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
i'd trash the tune-yards song here but flopson summed it up pretty well on the results thread
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 23 January 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
sooooo lana del rey
― blurgh (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 January 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
i can only assume that the voters for that have never heard the other million singers throughout time that have done that sort of thing better and the other 10 million songs that have better lyrics huh
― blurgh (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 January 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
"so imagine that theres this edith piaf song, but she cant sing and doesnt seem to care very much about being there, but wait also the lyrics were written by an idiot."
― blurgh (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 January 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
haha OTM
personally I blame the decline of music education
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
literally the only appealing thing about "Video Games" is changing the lyrics to the opening verse
I am still super fond of:
AssTittiesAss and tittiesVideo gaaaames
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
i would like to play this game but i would have to listen to the song a second time
― blurgh (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 January 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
no, you just need to know the cadence:
1 e and a 2 and1 e and a 2 and avideo games
anything you can bend around that rhythm works
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
Dancin' on the dance floorGirl, it's you that i adorevideo gaaaaames
― blurgh (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
Rip your head offShit down your neckVideo gaaaaames
Laugh like a motherfuckerLaugh like a motherfuckerVideo gaaaaames
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
thank god i'm not the only one
― summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
wait am i doing the rhythm wrong then
― blurgh (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
ha no, I am taking liberties
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
Easily I approachthe microphone because Ivideo gaaaaames
― blurgh (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
yessssssssssss
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
You drag me acrossYour open woundsVideo gaaaaames
i have a hot chickwaiting for me in my bedvideo gaaaaaames
― summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
Swing low, sweet chariotcoming for to carry myvideo gaaaaaaaaaaames
― blurgh (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
maura had a great one, too:
Sittin' in the back seatKickin' in the front seatVideo gaaaaaaames
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
I don't mind stealing breadfrom the mouths of decaaaadencevideo gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaames
― blurgh (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
Bosses do what they wantSuckas do what they canAHH-UHH-AHH-UHH-UAHHH!Video Games...
― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Friday, 27 January 2012 12:20 (twelve years ago) link
why do people, people i like and enjoy and respect even, continue to want to listen to john maus
it is so baffling to me, i cant even come up with pithy slanderous things to say, the closest i have come is calling him a third rate xiu xiu without the catchy tunes which is sonically wrong but feels right somehow
― a warlike pro-SB mod (jjjusten), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
there are some similarities between maus and xiu xiu -- you are not crazy
― sarahell, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
also dan in case you missed it plz note how proud i am of realizing that death grips - takyon sounds like the main dude is chuck mosely from faith no more
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
haha I did see that, it was actually the first thing that made me want to hear Death Grips
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
the first thing that made me want to hear Death Grips was the fact that Zach Hill was involved.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
btw just fair warning, I will be putting anyone who talks shit about Shabazz Palaces on blast
fyi
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link