Sleep - "Jersulam"/"Dopesmoker" - C/D?

what's so funny

oh man you were serious huh

man this troll can roll

troll?? ME? B-b-but I've contributed so much to the intellectual discourse on this board!

res will you pave the way for a much better and much more transcendent troll with better challops, contrarianism, and zinging quality--?

save your accolades for someone more deserving than this old, washed-up troll. i just hope that in my death, my decomposing flesh will fertilize the soil for the growth of a troll more worthy than me.

btw, is Geir Hongro a troll? He seems to fit squarely within this narrow definition.

Sleep's entire output is great.

I was a fan of Asbestos Death and Sleep Volume I. When Holy Mountain came out, I initially felt like it was a tasteless Sabbath rip-off.

Years later, I've come to realize that Sleep does a lot of things Sabbath never did. Sure there are some very obvious riffs/nods, but it's in tribute. There are all kinds of techniques and directions employed on Holy Mountain that Sabbath never would have touched.

Having said that, I think the first High on Fire record is the best thing any of these guys has ever done.

There are all kinds of techniques and directions employed on Holy Mountain that Sabbath never would have touched.

okay, but only because that one dude was missing his fingertips.

i just hope that in my death, my decomposing flesh will fertilize the soil for the growth of a troll more worthy than me

trying to figure out a joke about dead & euronymous here

couldnt find a holy mountain thread. check out the recording of the first night of the Sleep reunion at ATP back in May.
This was AMAZING.

http://www.chunklet.com/index.cfm?section=blogs&ID=546

I actually preferred the second night, but this^^^.

"follow the smoke toward the riff-filled land"

<3 <3 al cisneros

Stoner.

surely you jest

;-)

uh, pretty psyched for Sleep show tonight

2+ hour set at ATP was like whoa.

yep, tonight was def like, dang..

I liked it when someone from ATP said on this very board that the UK ATP shows were the only ones Sleep would ever do, ever, and poured scorn on me when I suggested they might ever want to play another show, ever.

If there's one thing 2001 - 2010 taught as w/r/t reunions it's "Never say never."

Think the ATP people have been using the "Oh, it's not the original drummer *this* time" as a get out clause.

xp and if there's one thing an ilxor with his place of work in his username taught us as w/r/t "is he going to be a shill for ATP y/n?" it's "y"

(I know Jamie posts on here in earnest, I'm just sayin)

haven't heard dopesmoker in so damn long. sounding good, follow the smoke...

it's funny cuz i initially (for years!) tended to agree with those who found it it bit dull/underwhelming, relative to holy mountain. the idea was always cool, but the execution didn't do much for me. the more time i've spent with it, though, and the more familiar the procession of riff has become, the more i love it. and it's not always about the act of listening to it, exactly. sometimes it's just a nice thing to put on, a comfortable sort of din.

the more you smoked you mean?

i dont smoke btw

I could never get into Dopesmoker

How many times is this thing going to be reissued:

For the 2012 reissue, there are some very notable changes. The original studio tapes have been remastered presenting the album as the band had originally intended. The audio is clearer, louder, and at last brings a true representation of SLEEP’s hour-plus Weedian chronicle. Exclusive to this Southern Lord edition is brand new artwork by long time SLEEP artist Arik Roper, to be unveiled in the coming weeks. Additionally, this reborn version of Dopesmoker boasts an unreleased live recording of one of the band’s best all-time performances: "Holy Mountain" from San Francisco's I-Beam in 1994.

Southern Lord is overwhelmingly ecstatic to reissue one of the most important recordings in heavy metal
history. This edition ensures that this mesmerizing, incredibly complex document remains unrivaled in the annals of stoner metal.

Dopesmoker Track Listing:
1. Dopesmoker 1:03:31
2. Holy Mountain (Live @ the I-Beam SF, CA. 1994) 11:54

yeah, really. they should reissue it every 4/20. cuz they keep forgetting that they reissued it.

hey, i've got an idea. why doesn't someone just keep it in print!

cuz they keep forgetting that they reissued it.

lol

i forgot i bought it. i was flipping through my records the other day and found a copy. true story.

The audio is clearer, louder, and at last brings a true representation of SLEEP’s hour-plus Weedian chronicle.

this is the annoying part, to me. not just that it keeps getting reissued, but that every time it happens, it has to finally be the band's "true vision" or w/e. as if they could fucking see...

they can't even remember what it's called!

Holy Mountain is the one that has been done to death reissue wise. Discogs show just one proper 2xLP issue of Dopesmoker, in 2003, on Tee Pee. One of the copies is listed for ~$80.00. I'm fine with this reissue and will probably buy it.

i dont think i ever bought that on lp so i guess i'll pick this up

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you are wrong. this is literally the fifth version of this

why would anyone want to own this on vinyl?

From Wikipedia: "Four versions of the album have been released: a rare London Records promotional disc, a bootleg with cover art by Arik Roper, the Rise Above/Music Cartel Records album and a release by Tee Pee Records.[12] The Rise Above/Music Cartel release was an unauthorized edited version, released in 1999 under the title Jerusalem.[1][3] Jerusalem runs at 52 minutes and is a single composition split into six identically-named tracks.[13] The version of the album titled Dopesmoker was released on April 22, 2003 by Tee Pee Records on compact disc and vinyl with a 63-minute running time.[2][14] Cisneros spoke most positively about the 2003 Dopesmoker release, saying "I don't think the Dopesmoker thing is the exact version that we submitted, but that's the closest one that's come out of the four. If I had to pick a favorite, that would be it."[12]"

Also – it's Algerian Goalkeeper. Of course he wants it on vinyl.

if there is any album where you do not want to get up from your chair...

i bought jerusalem on cd when it came out and it always sounded fine to me. little did i know it wasn't the REAL version. and yeah vinyl kinda defeats the purpose.

So four versions have been released: one is a promo, one is a bootleg, and one is an "unauthorized" edit. The other one is out of print and came out ~10 years ago. Not really seeing the issue here. I mean there are 36 versions of My Aim Is True.

i just don't get why its out of print at all. southern lord could keep it in print. tee pee could keep it in print. the om dudes have their own label, right? the tee pee guy is one of my facebook friends. i should ask him.

i mean its the kind of thing you could just keep selling, right? eh, what do i know.

a product of slowly increasing attention from outside die-hard metal circles? dopesmoker version came along at just the right time, coincided w lots of attention directed at both high on fire and om, but seemed intended as a fans-only collector's piece.

Brand new cover art, again!

http://www.earsplitcompound.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/sn158d-e1333380276402.jpg

Ned, Ned, Ned... beat you to it on the metal thread!

Ah well. But now it can celebrated here too. If that's the right word.