Sleep - "Jersulam"/"Dopesmoker" - C/D?

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There are all kinds of techniques and directions employed on Holy Mountain that Sabbath never would have touched.

okay, but only because that one dude was missing his fingertips.

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Monday, 10 November 2008 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link

i just hope that in my death, my decomposing flesh will fertilize the soil for the growth of a troll more worthy than me

trying to figure out a joke about dead & euronymous here

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 November 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

couldnt find a holy mountain thread. check out the recording of the first night of the Sleep reunion at ATP back in May.
This was AMAZING.

http://www.chunklet.com/index.cfm?section=blogs&ID=546

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I actually preferred the second night, but this^^^.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate (aldo), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

"follow the smoke toward the riff-filled land"

<3 <3 al cisneros

bwoling fro suop (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 8 February 2010 09:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Stoner.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 8 February 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link

surely you jest

bwoling fro suop (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 8 February 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

;-)

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 8 February 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

uh, pretty psyched for Sleep show tonight

bear, bear, bear, Sunday, 12 September 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

2+ hour set at ATP was like whoa.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Sunday, 12 September 2010 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link

yep, tonight was def like, dang..

bear, bear, bear, Sunday, 12 September 2010 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I liked it when someone from ATP said on this very board that the UK ATP shows were the only ones Sleep would ever do, ever, and poured scorn on me when I suggested they might ever want to play another show, ever.

It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Sunday, 12 September 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

If there's one thing 2001 - 2010 taught as w/r/t reunions it's "Never say never."

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 13 September 2010 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Think the ATP people have been using the "Oh, it's not the original drummer *this* time" as a get out clause.

Wandering Boy Poet, Monday, 13 September 2010 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

xp and if there's one thing an ilxor with his place of work in his username taught us as w/r/t "is he going to be a shill for ATP y/n?" it's "y"

This site already seems as unruly as a Marnie Stern record (DJ Mencap), Monday, 13 September 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

(I know Jamie posts on here in earnest, I'm just sayin)

This site already seems as unruly as a Marnie Stern record (DJ Mencap), Monday, 13 September 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

haven't heard dopesmoker in so damn long. sounding good, follow the smoke...

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Thursday, 30 September 2010 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link

it's funny cuz i initially (for years!) tended to agree with those who found it it bit dull/underwhelming, relative to holy mountain. the idea was always cool, but the execution didn't do much for me. the more time i've spent with it, though, and the more familiar the procession of riff has become, the more i love it. and it's not always about the act of listening to it, exactly. sometimes it's just a nice thing to put on, a comfortable sort of din.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Thursday, 30 September 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

the more you smoked you mean?

i dont smoke btw

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 21 March 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I could never get into Dopesmoker

Pompoussin (admrl), Monday, 21 March 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

How many times is this thing going to be reissued:

For the 2012 reissue, there are some very notable changes. The original studio tapes have been remastered presenting the album as the band had originally intended. The audio is clearer, louder, and at last brings a true representation of SLEEP’s hour-plus Weedian chronicle. Exclusive to this Southern Lord edition is brand new artwork by long time SLEEP artist Arik Roper, to be unveiled in the coming weeks. Additionally, this reborn version of Dopesmoker boasts an unreleased live recording of one of the band’s best all-time performances: "Holy Mountain" from San Francisco's I-Beam in 1994.

Southern Lord is overwhelmingly ecstatic to reissue one of the most important recordings in heavy metal
history. This edition ensures that this mesmerizing, incredibly complex document remains unrivaled in the annals of stoner metal.

Dopesmoker Track Listing:
1. Dopesmoker 1:03:31
2. Holy Mountain (Live @ the I-Beam SF, CA. 1994) 11:54

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 March 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, really. they should reissue it every 4/20. cuz they keep forgetting that they reissued it.

hey, i've got an idea. why doesn't someone just keep it in print!

scott seward, Saturday, 10 March 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

cuz they keep forgetting that they reissued it.

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 10 March 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

i forgot i bought it. i was flipping through my records the other day and found a copy. true story.

circa1916, Saturday, 10 March 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

The audio is clearer, louder, and at last brings a true representation of SLEEP’s hour-plus Weedian chronicle.

this is the annoying part, to me. not just that it keeps getting reissued, but that every time it happens, it has to finally be the band's "true vision" or w/e. as if they could fucking see...

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

they can't even remember what it's called!

scott seward, Sunday, 11 March 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link

Holy Mountain is the one that has been done to death reissue wise. Discogs show just one proper 2xLP issue of Dopesmoker, in 2003, on Tee Pee. One of the copies is listed for ~$80.00. I'm fine with this reissue and will probably buy it.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Sunday, 11 March 2012 01:28 (twelve years ago) link

i dont think i ever bought that on lp so i guess i'll pick this up

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 11 March 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link

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you are wrong. this is literally the fifth version of this

kony indie fuxx (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 11 March 2012 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

why would anyone want to own this on vinyl?

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 11 March 2012 05:30 (twelve years ago) link

From Wikipedia: "Four versions of the album have been released: a rare London Records promotional disc, a bootleg with cover art by Arik Roper, the Rise Above/Music Cartel Records album and a release by Tee Pee Records.[12] The Rise Above/Music Cartel release was an unauthorized edited version, released in 1999 under the title Jerusalem.[1][3] Jerusalem runs at 52 minutes and is a single composition split into six identically-named tracks.[13] The version of the album titled Dopesmoker was released on April 22, 2003 by Tee Pee Records on compact disc and vinyl with a 63-minute running time.[2][14] Cisneros spoke most positively about the 2003 Dopesmoker release, saying "I don't think the Dopesmoker thing is the exact version that we submitted, but that's the closest one that's come out of the four. If I had to pick a favorite, that would be it."[12]"

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 05:47 (twelve years ago) link

Also – it's Algerian Goalkeeper. Of course he wants it on vinyl.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 05:49 (twelve years ago) link

if there is any album where you do not want to get up from your chair...

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:16 (twelve years ago) link

i bought jerusalem on cd when it came out and it always sounded fine to me. little did i know it wasn't the REAL version. and yeah vinyl kinda defeats the purpose.

scott seward, Sunday, 11 March 2012 12:26 (twelve years ago) link

So four versions have been released: one is a promo, one is a bootleg, and one is an "unauthorized" edit. The other one is out of print and came out ~10 years ago. Not really seeing the issue here. I mean there are 36 versions of My Aim Is True.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Sunday, 11 March 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

i just don't get why its out of print at all. southern lord could keep it in print. tee pee could keep it in print. the om dudes have their own label, right? the tee pee guy is one of my facebook friends. i should ask him.

scott seward, Sunday, 11 March 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

i mean its the kind of thing you could just keep selling, right? eh, what do i know.

scott seward, Sunday, 11 March 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

a product of slowly increasing attention from outside die-hard metal circles? dopesmoker version came along at just the right time, coincided w lots of attention directed at both high on fire and om, but seemed intended as a fans-only collector's piece.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 March 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Brand new cover art, again!

http://www.earsplitcompound.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/sn158d-e1333380276402.jpg

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 April 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

Ned, Ned, Ned... beat you to it on the metal thread!

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Monday, 2 April 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

Ah well. But now it can celebrated here too. If that's the right word.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 April 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

I like it on this thread too.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 April 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

the art is good, but the fonts and font colors are atrocious. the writing was clearly done by a different person than the image. and that person should be fired.

Poliopolice, Monday, 2 April 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

otm

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 2 April 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

weedians iirc

#yolo contendere (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 2 April 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

That shade of lime green makes me want to clean my sink not smoke a bowl.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Monday, 2 April 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

Font aside, best artwork of the three released versions of this imo. Not that I will be buying it a third time...

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 2 April 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

so thats what a procession of weedians looks like

shur fine (am0n), Monday, 2 April 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

the art is good, but the fonts and font colors are atrocious. the writing was clearly done by a different person than the image. and that person should be fired.

eh, i can hang with the retro space fonts, but this cover ain't a patch on the teepee edition from a few years back

looks like taller jawas leaving uncle owen's house

shur fine (am0n), Monday, 2 April 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link


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