Best song on Kate Bush's Hounds Of Love

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licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link

This album is really downright weird. I have no idea what made me love it at 18. Mrs. McBB said it just brings to mind Tori Amos but I've never cottoned to subsequent Kate wannabes.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ the idea of reducing Hounds Of Love to the sentiment of "just bringing to mind tori amos"

do you typically not harbor love for weird music?

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Well Mrs. McBB has decidedly mainstream tastes, so...

I do love 'weird music', I fell for Danielle Dax in college as well, it's just compared to the alternative staples I was listening to at the time, Kate stands far apart.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck mrs. mcboing-boing

cutty, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

It was this album that made me love KB. Just seeing that video for Cloudbusting with Donald Sutherland, and thinking "I must have this"

Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

i recently found the 'alternative hounds of love' single for a buck and while i think it's really cool that kb can just riff off the subject and make entirely new lyrics, the original is soo much better

butthurt jeff daniels (LOLK), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

eh?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

alternative hounds of love is the song with different lyrics/hook

butthurt jeff daniels (LOLK), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnpNYAdvrAs

butthurt jeff daniels (LOLK), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck mrs. mcboing-boing

Uncalled for.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

but i mean she does "bring to mind" tori amos when you first listen to her!

its only after a few listens that u don't hear anyone else but kate bush, you know? i've listened to the first three on here over and over so many times. they're... in a league of their own. "the big sky" needed a few more votes. love the rest too obviously.

what if "middlebrow" is pubes? (Matt P), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

to be completely, totally honest, kate bush did not bring to mind tori amos when i first heard her.

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

she sounded like a wild banchee doing songs out of an ethereal place in her wacked out 80s mind. not tori amos.

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i was listening to aerial the other day and my roommate asked if i was listening to tori amos u_u

tori anus (LOLK), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

yea i'm not saying it's a silly reaction. just doesn't happen to me.

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

in particular, a lot of the tracks on this record sound nothing like tori to me: running up that hill, big sky, cloudbusting, jig of life, under ice, waking the witch

don't hear it

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

we're totally on the same page: the very first time i heard kate bush i heard the work of genius. i've heard tori amos countless times and have never ever been drawn into her music

tori anus (LOLK), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ the notion that people outside ILM have to have this hyperdetailed, aspie-level perception of similarities between musical artists or else they're LOLable

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't think anybody really said that in the span of this conversation. i think all that was suggested is that Hounds of Love and Aerial are 2 albums that are pretty different than "tori amos."

but i guess not to a lot of people LOL

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

:D

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

They *are* very different, I agree; but "brings to mind Tori Amos" isn't equal to "reducing" the album to "is a direct Tori fascimile" and isn't that ludicrous a statement considering the obvious signifiers involved, really.

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

...especially coming from soneone who might not be as invested in analyzing & discussing music as some of the people here.

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't know what the last part of your statement means, really

but the original statement was actually "just brings to mind Tori Amos"

the "just" means a lot there, and it's pretty LOLable

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

That the statement "just brings to mind Tori Amos" coming from someone who isn't invested in analyzing music so much isn't ludicrous as a casual remark. But w/e.

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

no, it's not ludicrous. and i didn't say it was. i just said it made me laugh.

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

the "just" means a lot there, and it's pretty LOLable

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

ok. fine. to be completely honest, to hear this album and think "just brings to mind tori amos" does seem kind of ludicrous. purely on a sonic level. the insturmentation, the style. i can understand hearing a parallel, but for that to be your only reaction (which is what "just" suggests) is odd to me. not insulting, not annoying, just odd.

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm not a kate snob, and i don't retaliate against tori analogies with the venom a lot of other people do. i just find it bizarre.

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

did you know that "just" is the most used word in the written english language?

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Probably, and that even makes her statement LESS definitive than you're perceiving it to be. :)

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

not really. the "just" in that statement is pretty clearly used to mean "only."

i think it's rather silly for you to assume that i'm one of those people who looks down on those who so much as mention tori in the context of a kate bush conversation. never have been. i just find this particular observation off the mark.

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

lol surm, I see what you did there

he does NOT have the training (HI DERE), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

lol i don't even know what i did, i just know it's 5pm and i'm arguing with ppl on the internet

look, this is one of her 2 masterpieces - i think it's fairly understandable and innocuous for someone to perceive the statement "eh just reminds me of tori amos" as sort of loopy. (yes i took my liberties with the "eh" but whatever). that's about it.

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Well I gotta jet, but I do sincerely hope the unquestionable brilliance of this album isn't further toyed with by the unwashed masses.

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

ahhhahahahahahahahahahahaha you really are missing the point aren't u

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

it's like u decided to get annoyed at me for taking a stance that i'm not even taking.

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

"Cloudbusting" is still such a great song.

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Props to Turangalila for repping for Mrs. McBB, who indeed couldn't care less what you lot LOL at. She's a good sport with all the nonsense I make her listen to, and even quite likes some of it, INCLUDING KATE BUSH. Only on ILM would such an innocuous remark cause such a stir...

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't expect her to care about what i find funny. if she did, i would be worried about you, and your wife. i was making a very simple point, not to be lumped in with the protests of Kate/Tori analogy haters everywhere. Turangalila, in a characteristic move, decided to get uppity about something that was more forgettable than he painted it to be. I do not claim that this album is too brilliant for reproach, and I do not think it's above comparisons made from a distance. I was merely expressing an opinion, one no more or less valuable than your wife's. After all, i am a firm believer in the perspective of the non-expert in any given arena (in this case, Mrs McBB, an avid mainstream-ist), and sometimes find such perspectives even more valuable than those entrenched in the field.

janice (surm), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

After all, i am a firm believer in the perspective of the non-expert in any given arena (in this case, Mrs McBB, an avid mainstream-ist), and sometimes find such perspectives even more valuable than those entrenched in the field.

This is a very good point. Given how little I've listened to pop over the last 20 years it's useful to hear folks with a different perspective comment on some of the things I listen to - it sometimes makes me reconsider my opinions.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry for all the words T. <3 u now and forever

janice (surm), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i love what happened here

cutty, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

wow you guys can really be dicks about kate bush

hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

also if you don't the average person would think kate bush was kinda like tori amos, as opposed to being more like, say, ac/dc or levert or georgia satellites or ma$e or miles davis or mahler or the strokes or boards of canada, well, yr wrong....they are gonna think...woah gothy witchy type chick who can sing crazy

hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

true, true.

janice (surm), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

nothing wrong with that. i've just never really heard it.

janice (surm), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

kate is 1000000x better obv but that's what i thought when i first heard her cuz i guess tori was just more of a big artist when i was in HS and college and you didn't hear much kate bush in the u.s.

hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

lol u young

or wait, am I old?

;_;

he does NOT have the training (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

kate is 1000000x better obv

noooooo not obv

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link


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