Werner Herzog films: c/d/s/d

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That ending with the monkeys on the raft is just the best ending ever, up there with Adele H in her ragged gown walking blank-eyed through the streets of Martinique.

We have the Fitzcarraldo SPECIAL EDITION!!!!! Whatever that is. From netflix, just came in today. So tomorrow, I will belong.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
I watched The White Diamond and it is truly one of the most amazing films I've ever seen.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 02:36 (seventeen years ago) link

You'll lurv his new film, it's called TURN BACK YOU POXY FULE

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 02:56 (seventeen years ago) link

(kidding, I'm a big Herzog fan myself)

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm all about Aguirre, Zorn des Gottes.

Also, make note of the German title of Kaspar Hauser: Jeder für sich und Gott gegen alle.

My Little Ruud Book (Ken L), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link

What was the Herzog film Ian Curtis was watching when he topped himself?

i think that was Stroszek. which may be my favorite herzog. Aguirre was a favorite years ago, i need to see it again. my wind up klaus kinski dracula is never far from my synthesizer.

kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:19 (seventeen years ago) link

it was stroszek. which is the only herzog i've seen. it's great.

i have white diamond at home from netflix now

sleep (sleep), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 05:14 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
TORONTO -- It was somewhere around the eighth or ninth autograph signing when Elton Brand ditched the NBA.

Before a throng of the Toronto International Film Festival's finest paparazzi, film students and star seekers -- who spear stars with microphones and flash copies of celeb rags with pens in tow -- the All-Star isn't seeing any trading cards or Clippers hats.

"I usually sign 'Elton Brand #42,'" Brand says while scribbling on some collegiate dude's white paper. "Tonight, I'm signing 'Elton Brand -- Movie Producer.'"

Smart move, because here at the prestigious festival de cinema -- where Brand just sat alongside critics and studio suits at the world premiere of "Rescue Dawn," a Vietnam-era POW flick produced by Brand and starring Christian Bale of "Batman Begins" -- the locals are having trouble identifying the Clippers All-Star.

"We're in Toronto with movie fans," Brand says as he walks down the red carpet. "So they probably think I play hockey."

He's right.

"Are you a hockey player?" inquires a camera-toting young woman -- because, you know, the NHL is filled with 6-foot-8 black hockey players.

But Brand isn't fazed, and why would he be? As the easygoing big man flashes his ever present toothy one amidst the glaring lights and flashing bulbs, it's clear that this mid-September evening is the punctuation on the Summer of Brand.

According to anonymous sources in the airline industry, Brand is now the world record holder for frequent flyer miles accumulated during a single summer. After a Western Conference semifinals appearance, Brand spent the following three months traveling to China and Japan for Team USA and, just yesterday, to New York for a pal's wedding.

Which brings us back to Toronto. So what has an exhausted Brand got himself into? Like the snootier Cannes and chill Sundance festivals, the two-week Toronto International Film Festival unveils top-tier flicks (over 300) -- what insiders call the fall '06 Oscar crop -- and hosts hordes of filmmakers, buyers, sellers, watchers and celebs. Brad Pitt, Russell Crowe, Reese Witherspoon and Vince Vaughn are here, along with controversy (see "Death of a President," the fictional account of W's assassination) and lunacy (see the "Borat" premiere, at which Sir Ali G arrived in a woman-drawn cart.)

With the circus in town, some locals are fighting back. Hours earlier, Yonge Street was seized by something called a Jesus Parade, where marchers tied up traffic while reminding the jackals of the way of the Son, often to tunes. Their play lists? The Asian and white followers chose drums and French hymns, respectively, while the black congregation awesomely bounced to the hip-hop gospel of Kirk Franklin's "Stomp." (If Tom Cruise had an infectious anthem such as this, we'd all be auditing our thetans and following that furry rugrat Shia into an intergalactic slugfest with Xenu. And we'd take Elton Brand with us.)

Yes, Torontonians are loony for their festival, and I'm on guard. Hopefully, Brand is too.

His evening starts with a "Dawn" preparty hosted by Premiere magazine at W Studio, where Persian carpets line the walls, Wyclef performs a sound-check and "Rescue Dawn" co-star Jeremy Davies ("Saving Private Ryan") eagerly anticipates Brand's arrival.

"I don't know anything about the Clippers," Davies says. "Gosh, is that hockey? I like chess … "

The proceedings liven when the big fella arrives, and though his springtime quest for a championship ring fell short, Brand is flashing finger bling of a cooler, different sort. In July, he married Shahara Simmons, a Duke alum, and now Mrs. Brand has her man's back as he makes the rounds and poses for photos (smoothly sliding his fun juice deep inside his palm) before yukking it up with Bale.

"Nice to see you again, my friend," says the gentlemanly Brit to the Clip, who spent two weeks on the Thailand set last fall. "Congratulations with all you've done with the Clippers."

"It's funny to see all of the celebs turn out for the Clippers now," Bale continues. "A bit nauseating, no?"

Brand laughs, and clearly appreciates Bale's interest. He's been trying to turn the Brit -- who starts shooting the next "Batman" installment in winter '07 -- onto basketball for some time now.

"Christian and his wife are big soccer fans," Brand says. "And billiards. Can you believe that? But I'm getting them into basketball."

Yeah, when Tony Parker dunks, says Bale.

"Your sports loves get established early in life, so for me it's soccer," Bale explains, adding that he catches the Clips via telly -- sorta. "To be honest, even with soccer, I like playing more than watching it. All I'm thinking is, 'Why am I doing sitting in this chair? Why am I drinking this beer and, you know, having my arse getting fatter every minute? Why aren't I up there doing it?'"

"Elton is damn nice and astonishingly chill," adds Bale, who isn't surprised by the baller's interest in the film biz. "Movies are so idiosyncratic, you get unusual characters. You don't go to school, get a degree, and make movies. Everybody can make movies and that keeps it like a roller coaster."

So Bale is a fan, and an envious one at that.

"It's unbelievable that he's been able to achieve the success he has," Bale said. "And he's younger than me, so that makes me jealous beyond belief. Hats off to him."

Soon, the gang is off to the premiere screening. I hitch a ride with Brand because he's my subject and I'm a professional -- and not at all because he's rolling in a jet-black stretch limo. Besides, his ride isn't exactly a rolling discotheque. No Dramas or Turtles here, just the wife and some business types, so the baller talks shop.

Brand's Gibraltar Entertainment, which he co-owns with partner Steve Marlton, has a bevy of film and TV projects in development, including the comedy flick "Bad in Bed" and "Stranded," a thriller about a killer targeting a woman stuck in a car teetering on the edge of a cliff (Matt Dillon and Brittany Murphy are in talks to star).

Then there's the flagship project, "Rescue Dawn." From acclaimed German director Werner Herzog ("Grizzly Man"), "Rescue Dawn" is the true story of Dieter Dengler (Bale), an American fighter pilot shot down behind enemy lines on his virginal flight and held at a Viet Cong prison camp.

A gritty, fact-based film with an award-winning director and a young star in a mold-breaking role means there's Oscar buzz (Entertainment Weekly would later say the film "led the charge" in generating "serious Academy Award talk") and if the film is named Best Picture, guess who takes home a gold statuette?

But the production wasn't all layups. Herzog is by all accounts a surly chap who employs unconventional methods to get what he needs (like, say, filming in dangerous jungles with venomous reptiles).

"Oh man, you don't sign up for a Werner Herzog movie without thinking it's going to be difficult," Bale said earlier. "I was expecting him to pull a gun on me at any second.

"He is a very unique character, inspiring, infuriating at times. There were so many strong personalities involved that there was a lot of clash and trouble."

Marlton is, like Brand, a showbiz newbie, and the no-nonsense former club owner often locked horns with Herzog.

After playing on Team USA's bronze-medal World Championship squad this summer, Elton Brand has some ideas for improvement -- including playing more zone defense.

"Let's put it this way: If I didn't clash with Werner, you'd be watching a three-hour movie," Marlton says. ("Dawn" clocks in at two hours).

There was also a hiccup with financing. Brand and Marlton's initial $2 million investment ballooned when outside money bowed out of the production, marooning crew members in Thailand until more cash was infused. Litigation followed and one lawsuit, aimed directly at Gibraltar, was settled out of court.

"That was cleared up a while ago, and we've moved on," Brand says, admitting that his genial persona is not par for the showbiz course. "In this business, people say you have to be more of a shark. I just need to do stand-up business. I'll work hard and be honest, an honest businessman, however it works."

Brand isn't second-guessing his side job and he discounts the too-much, too-soon notion.

Brand's busy summer included a trip to Japan with Team USA.
"The advice from my business advisers was to start earlier," he says. "When you're still playing, you can network and meet people. The movie biz is definitely tough. So I wouldn't advise any young athletes to get into it unless you have some credible partners and you know what you're doing."

Evidence points to Brand knowing just that. He reads scripts, wields terms like docs and dailies and, before signing onto "Dawn," did his homework by rifling through Herzog's catalogue.

"We watched seven of his movies in two days," Brand says.

Brand is the first filmmaker to arrive at Ryerson Theater but he gamely tackles the red carpet's parasites, who are clearly in awe of this large figure.

"I play basketball in L.A.," he tells one baffled reporter. "No, not the Lakers."

"I'm just a lowly producer," he informs another. "You want to talk to the real stars."

On cue, Bale arrives and the crowd goes nuts. Think Staples Center after a buzzer-beating turnaround from Brand who, in this fictional scenario, is donning a cape and metallic cup. With the paparazzi distracted, Brand pauses for some perspective.

"It's an honor to be here because the films you've seen here have gone down as some of the greatest of all time," Brand says, and recent history backs him up. "Dawn" is screening in the Masters Program, which sports films from celebrated auteurs like Ang Lee, who last year brought "Brokeback Mountain" here.

"The reason I entered the film biz was to tell a great story," Brand says. "You're not going to change the world, but I'm passionate about the art of it."

Besides, it ain't like getting throttled by KG.

"My full-time job is a little harder," he says. "You gotta take elbows to the face sometimes. Here I can just put on a suit and watch Christian act."

Finally, Brand takes his seat and when the lights dim, the Lion roars. The Lion, of course, is the MGM icon. As if the "Dawn" family didn't have enough to celebrate, MGM acquired the film's North American distribution rights in a pre-emptive bid the night before. Marlton was having dinner at Morton's when he got the call.

"I tipped the maitre d' $50 to bring me the faxed contract," says Marlton, who's clearly picking up the game. "I signed it right there and we had our studio."

(MGM is expected to release the movie Dec. 1 in Los Angeles and New York for an Oscar qualifying run, with wider release in February.)

After the screening, Herzog, Bale and Davies participate in a Q&A session. The director tells the audience, including Dengler's widow and son, that Dieter, who passed away five years earlier, "embodied everything I love about America: Courage, frontier spirit, loyalty, and joy of life. I think he would have liked this evening here with you."

(And how was the flick? I'll leave the reviews to the snoots, except to say this: I rubbed my seat ragged, squirming and slumping before rising, along with the audience, in a standing O for a surprisingly uplifting war flick with a wildly unconventional performance by Bale. So yeah, the movie works, and Brand agrees: "Better than 'Scarface,' better than 'Citizen Kane.'")

gear (gear), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Interesting article. Can someone translate this for me?

In July, he married Shahara Simmons, a Duke alum, and now Mrs. Brand has her man's back as he makes the rounds and poses for photos (smoothly sliding his fun juice deep inside his palm) before yukking it up with Bale.

Fun juice "deep inside" his palm while his wife has his back? Is this not a description of a porn shot?

patita (patita), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

wtf

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

recall that Herzog's "dream film school" starts each day with two hours of boxing

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

A couple days ago I watched _Apocalypse Now_ for the first time in years. Anyone else think he was going for the feel of _Aguirre_, but the film's wordiness and the cartoon antics of the smaller characters got in the way?

And now I see that Herzog has made a Vietnam film. Very intersting.


Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, when I started this topic on November 5th, 2001 7:00 PM, I never thought Elton Brand would be mentioned in it.

Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.gibraltarfilms.com/theatre/theatre_rd.html

Rescue Dawn trailer.

Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, that trailer couldn't be less Herzog-ian. I recall him having issues with the producers about them wanting an action film and him wanting his own film. Still can't wait to see this, tho.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:21 (seventeen years ago) link

and M83!

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link

the end of the trailer, it's the first song on the 2nd m83 album, right??

the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Thursday, 21 September 2006 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Christian Bale is completely unconvincing in every role.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 21 September 2006 01:04 (seventeen years ago) link

omg I will see this on opening night.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 September 2006 01:13 (seventeen years ago) link

jed you're the wrongest person ever

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 21 September 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

sucks that i missed this in toronto... i confused AM and PM!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 21 September 2006 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...
No love for his first feature, 'Signs of Life'? It's already all there, the confrontation with nature, teh wider pciture eating up the individual, etc etc.

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 9 February 2007 10:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Never seen it! Florian Fricke (of Popol Vuh) is in it!

Tom D. (Dada), Friday, 9 February 2007 10:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes he is. He has a small part as a young angelic Nazi officer, playing some Chopin in a big Greek mansion.

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 9 February 2007 11:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Was Rescue Dawn any good? It seems soooo promising I can't help but worry I will be let down.

Incident at Loch Ness was a lot of fun, but would've been far better if they had been able to maintain even a slight semblance of believability all the way through to the end.

A lot of music I play these days is basically extended Aguirre soundtrack rip-offs.

blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Friday, 9 February 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn't Florian in Kaspar Hauser too?

emil.y (emil.y), Friday, 9 February 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't really remember the music in Aguirre, except for the dude playing pipes?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 February 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn't Florian in Kaspar Hauser too?

... he certainly is!

I don't really remember the music in Aguirre, except for the dude playing pipes?

You don't remember the opening sequences?!??!

Tom D. (Dada), Friday, 9 February 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I really need to get hold of some of his films. I only saw Dwarfs and Aguirre because there was a small season of his work at the local indie cinema years ago. Still haven't seen many of the others.

emil.y (emil.y), Friday, 9 February 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Florian in Kaspar Hauser is beautiful...

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 9 February 2007 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

You don't remember the opening sequences?!??!

I guess not! I mean I remember them walking through the jungle but I don't remember the music.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 February 2007 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Coming down the mountainside? Out of the mist? Majestic blasts of choir-like Mellotron?

Tom D. (Dada), Friday, 9 February 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

If you say so, dude. I do remember the visuals now, the perspective looks all crazy?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 February 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Aguirre is Popul Vuh sdtrk isn't it? good stuff

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 February 2007 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

They're shot and edited like documentaries.
The documentary about making his movies is very good though.

Lukewarm Watery G. Tornado; Less sick than before (The GZeus), Friday, 9 February 2007 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Got Fata Morgana for the weekend.

Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Friday, 9 February 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
Retro of his documentaries (and those of others WH has selected) begins in NYC tom'w ... Herzog doing appearances this weekend there, also at Goethe House.


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Herzog’s unique taste in media is uncanny for its specificity. He boasts of a longstanding affinity for “The Anna Nicole Show” and its late star. “Years ago, when everybody dismissed it as vulgar and cheap, I kept saying, ‘Watch it closely. This is big. This is important,’” he says. “It depicted something in our civilization that is very important. Now that she has died, all of a sudden it dawns on everyone how important this phenomenon has been. I wish I could’ve made a film with Anna Nicole Smith.”

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 May 2007 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Retro of his documentaries (and those of others WH has selected) begins in NYC tom'w ... Herzog doing appearances this weekend there, also at Goethe House.


That interview again

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 May 2007 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

LA Times interview with talk about Rescue Dawn, living in LA, etc.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 June 2007 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I must get round to watching the rest of the Herzog-Kinski films I bought a couple of years ago. Nosferatu and Aguirre are both larf riots.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Sunday, 24 June 2007 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Herzog's diary/memoir Of Walking in Ice, not available in English since 1978, is back in print. Yay.

The Macallan 18 Year, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I recently borrowed "Burden of Dreams" (that film about making Fitzcaraldo) from the library and it comes with a little book of production diaries that are a great read. The shit they had to go through for that film is just incredible. Eating a shoe was obviously a piece of cake in comparison.

everything, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

I was rather disappointed with the ending of Rescue Dawn. It felt like he was trying to honor the life of Dieter but it ended up coming off as a cheesy attempt.

Jeff, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:30 (sixteen years ago) link

The documentary's no better for me. I said on the Rescue Dawn thread that Herzog doesn't do much with Dengler's weird all-American "pluck," which is to me the oddest thing about his story.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 31 August 2007 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought there wasn't much going right for Rescue Dawn even before the Top Gun coda.

Eric H., Friday, 31 August 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

My friend insisted I'll get it when I get through Kaspar Hauser, but I can't seem to get into that one either.

Eric H., Friday, 31 August 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Gulp!

Tom D., Friday, 31 August 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

It seems with Herzog I really really have to be in the mood ... at least to turn his commentary track off.

Eric H., Friday, 31 August 2007 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Just rewatched Heart of Glass - man, what an ending. I had forgotten how great the Master was as well. Wish I'd had time to watch the commentary, though.

clotpoll, Friday, 31 August 2007 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1095217/

Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans
Director: Werner Herzog
Cast: Nic Cage & Val Kilmer

!

Cool Hand Tiller (onimo), Thursday, 23 October 2008 13:02 (fifteen years ago) link


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