scientology & celebrities

"when i read that, it was just (mouths explosive sound).. you know? i was like, boom (snaps fingers), that's it"

he's the michael winslow of scientology

"now is the TIME people"

New Yorkers oozing purple!!! oh man

I can't believe they really just looped the M:I themesong on the actual promo film

a glossary of terms found in the video. I didn't know a lot of these.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1579963/20080118/index.jhtml

i read last night that danny elfman is suing the co$ over them using the theme song without permission in this clip. i figured it would be lalo schifrin doing the suing, but whatever. good for danny.

also, chick corea WTF ;_;

a glossary of terms found in the video. I didn't know a lot of these.

Hehe, I figured my friend Jen would have written that, and she did.

There is a great part in Christiane F where she talks about being in some scino-run heroin rehab plant where the treatment was like them moving a football, she'd touch the football, they'd move it again, she'd touch it again, ad nauseum. Basically had nothing to do otherwise but 'confess' shit and read Hubbard's works, which she thought were "really interesting." Then it mentions Germany kicked them out a few years later and disallowed the program. Haha!

cruise movies i do enjoy:

MI3(M:I 1 to a lesser extent)
Collateral
Legend
Minority Report

amateurist wonderfully otm upthread regarding what makes Cruise's mannerisms so off-putting

didn't tom cruise have an experience growing up with an abusive step-parent or something? b/c if so that's obv. very sad plus one could see how it would leave him vulnerable to being at high-risk for being drawn in by a cult (among other factors, such as experiencing great fame and success at a young age)

I've been reading the OT III mythos (on Wikipedia) today, and I gotta say that I have a certain respect for L. Ron Hubbard for pulling off this massive science fiction tale as literal truth to one person, let alone however many Scientologists there are. Birth of a religion, eh?

didn't tom cruise have an experience growing up with an abusive step-parent or something? b/c if so that's obv. very sad plus one could see how it would leave him vulnerable to being at high-risk for being drawn in by a cult (among other factors, such as experiencing great fame and success at a young age)

yeah, there's def. a certain pathos there, but lately it's been overwhelmed by the sense that this man is potentially doing a lot of harm.

i'm not sure all this is an more unsettling than a lot of evangelical xtianity, but well, that's a familiar part of the american landscape, where as this is batshit looniness in all its fulsome newness.

just read the x3nu article on wikipedia. kind of mind-blowing. especially the detail about the origin of modern cinema design. you kind of have to read it yourself.

amateurist since Cruise's antics are pretty much universally met with ridicule I think he's probably not causing any harm.

This is hilarious:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rundown_%28Scientology%29

The Super Power Rundown is described in the Dianetics and Scientology Technical Dictionary as "a super fantastic, but confidential series of rundowns that can be done on anybody whether Dn Clear or not that puts the person into fantastic shape unleashing Super Power of a thetan. This means that puts Scientologists into a new realm of ability enabling them to create a new world."[7] The Super Power Building is currently under construction in Clearwater, Florida for the specific purpose of administering this rundown.

super fantastic, but confidential

just watched the orientation video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XJtUDcm3bBw

the end of the video has some amazing quotes

"you are at the threshold of your next trillion years. you will live it in shivering agonized darkness or you will live it in the triumphant light..."

"if you leave this room and never mention scientology again, you are perfectly free to do so. it would be stupid, but you can do it. you could also dive off a bridge or blow your brains out. that is your choice" !!!!

also lmao@ testimonials by isaac hayes and kirstie alley ("without scientology i would be dead!")

they're just as much a corporation as they are a religion. all the books and courses they make you pay for. they say they admit everyone but obv. poor people aren't wanted. there's a part in this vid where they say that occasionally if someone doesn't have money, they sometimes are able to assign a student auditor to work with them.

had no idea will smith had joined their ranks lol

had no idea will smith had joined their ranks lol

Whoa, really? Man, that's damn depressing...but then again I remember reading somewhere that he and Cruise were buds. Oh well!

For a long time, Smith has denied joining the Church of Scientology with his wife, Jada Pinkett Smith, explaining that it would go against the beliefs of his late grandmother. But for some time, insiders in Hollywood have insisted the Smiths were, indeed, brought in by Cruise.Smith concedes that his kids are being home-schooled, just as are those of Cruise, Travolta and other Scientologists.

In the article, Smith refers to “Thetans,” who are space aliens in the vernacular of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.

“… in all of the experiences I’ve had with Tom and Scientology, like 98 percent of the principles are identical to the principles of the Bible,” Smith tells Men’s Vogue writer Hudson Morgan.

That orientation video is funny, but not as funny as bug-eyed, fanatical Tom Cruise. He seems, in real life, like he does in the movies: Nothing is subtle, reflective or self-aware; everything is hyper-confident, hyper-macho, and over-the-top; and he doesn't speak -- he emotes ("Acting!"). But this is no act.

Oh for the love of ghod dont let Will Smith be involved in this shit. what would his gramma say.

She would probably make him move out to California to live with his rich relatives, getting him away from this bad crowd.

epic win

ahaha

lololololol

"you are at the threshold of your next trillion years. you will live it in shivering agonized darkness or you will live it in the triumphant light..."

lol early christianity! these guys have done their homework

epic win indeed

Jerry O'Connell is Tom Cruise: Scientologist!

scientology.org is down again

This YouTube video explains a lot about what Tom Cruise was saying in that video clip.

What do Scientologists believe? I'm talking not the periphery of their views -- like they can help people get off drugs, become spiritually aware, and so forth -- but their core religious beliefs. Do they, for instance, believe in a single G-d similar to Christians or Jews? Do they, as I've heard, believe in aliens populating the Earth?

You'd figure that a quick internet search would reveal this, but I haven't found anything that squarely and fully answers these questions.

And so I ask you, ILX'ors. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

a nation shakes its head and hopes that it raised its children well.

So, are 4chan hackers idiots going up against all this, or heroes? I think idiot, but what do I know rly.

also, chick corea WTF ;_;

He's been a Scientologist for, like, over 30 years. Some of the Return to Forever LPs from the seventies have dedications to L. Ron Hubbard. And Stanley Clarke is/was a Scientologist too, the liner notes of his School Days from 1976 give "special thanks" to Hubbard as well.

So, are 4chan hackers idiots going up against all this, or heroes? I think idiot, but what do I know rly.

I LOL'd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQ

Serious business!

And Stanley Clarke is/was a Scientologist too

so wrong. he went to a couple classes and decided it was bullshit. he has even spoken out against it.

Why did he thank Hubbard on his album then? The liner notes in School Days say "special thanks to L. Ron Hubbard for being an inspiration to me". I'm glad he realized Scientology is humbug, but it doesn't sound like he just took a couple classes and decided it was bullshit.

these guys took down The Sun as well apparently, because "They enraged /i/ when the forum censored truth that the parents of Madeleine McCann murdered her."

4chan dudes are goobs, but hey, if they get the job done they get the job done.

Why did he thank Hubbard on his album then? The liner notes in School Days say "special thanks to L. Ron Hubbard for being an inspiration to me". I'm glad he realized Scientology is humbug, but it doesn't sound like he just took a couple classes and decided it was bullshit.

Maybe he just liked the dodgy sci-fi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiqmvWZg-qs

Even seriouser business! Scarier, with a deeper and more menacing voice!

Chick Corea's famously on a live album with the Incredible String Band, Mike Garson & Woody Woodmansey all celebrating LRH's 9 millionth birthday or something. As an Incredible String Band fan I can assure that hours of fun can be had deciphering their albums (and solo albums) for Sc'ology references - they're crammed full of 'em - hell, LRH, even sneaked on to the cover of one of their albums if you look closely enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOkOEltl678

I just got this GINORMOUS box of books from Bridge Publications! There are at least 20 different books on Scientology in there. They are seriously wasting Will Smith and Tom Cruise's money by sending all of these books to libraries that are in all likelihood just going to pitch them.

S.O.P. with outfits like that -- they figure any publicity = good publicity. But Jack Chick probably gets better results with less expenditure.

Well, he at least knows the length of a religious craziness tome to keep people's attention all the way through. (24 tiny pages w/pictures vs 1000+ pages of lord knows what)

haha

"HOLY DICK /i/ IS DOWN! IT'S ON MOTHERFUCKERS! BRING BACK /i/ HALP HALP!"

retaliation?