Ritual de lo Habitual

this album rules so much and 'obvious' is totally underrated

man i loved this shit when i was a teenager

"ain't no right" is awesome. it's an explosive song with 1000 times more energy than anything featured on nothing's shocking, for instance. interesting that it polled last, but maybe that's a reflection of the depth and quality of the album.

i really do like the pacing on ritual. you have a turbulent, exuberant start followed by the epic centrepiece tracks and then a couple of songs at the end that wind things down all elegant-like.

Trying to picture a world where the hit single and overplayed video from Houses of the Holy is "The Crunge"? You can.

As in "Been Caught Stealing" is RDLHabitual's "The Crunge"? Which I guess it is.

I was always underwhelmed with Ritual, and I am someone for whom Nothing's Shocking was (and remains) one of my favorite releases ever by anyone. Possibly that's why it underwhelmed me? Couldn't live up to the pedestal I put Nothing's Shocking on?

Ritual >>>>>>>>>> Nothing's Shocking

I saw a bit of some recent Jool Holland perf and it was horrid, so pointless. I don't wanna say it's just cuz Avery's gone but he really does seem like the anchor that kept them from just being complete wankers.

this album rules so much and 'obvious' is totally underrated

― joygoat, Monday, August 16, 2010 9:05 PM (5 months ago)

this is OTM...I listened to 'Obvious' like 3x today thx to this thread. I wish this whole album was 3/4 time violin meltdowns but I like the rest of it pretty well, too.

I know, Jane's Addiction is timeless!

ah not "Obvious,"
I mean "Of Course"
though "Obvious" is a p rad song!

I just listened to Of Course. It's beautiful. Three Days is my favourite but Spotify has mysteriously always had an 11 1/2 minute live version instead of the original, so I've ended up knowing and loving the live version like it was the original! And what's more, the original doesn't quite measure up to it! :/

But hey - incredible song, however it's heard.

Jane's Addiction is timeless maybe, but I'm pretty sure that if your flight ever mistakenly lands in 1991, the bass intro to "Three Days" will start playing over the p.a. system.

slapping yourself in the faaaaaaaaaace

La la. La la. La la.

Since it's about his mom's suicide, I always thought of the title as "Then She Died."

http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/12/16/janes-addiction-ritual-de-lo-habitual-round-41-nicks-choice/

did "three days" and "then she did" make prog acceptable again, after genesis and yes got all duran duran in the 80s?

Since it's about his mom's suicide, I always thought of the title as "Then She Died."

Apparently that's what it was called originally, then they took the 'e' out to make it less obvious

Really incredible interview here with producer Dave Jerden. "Three Days" was done as one take!

http://www.laweekly.com/music/ritual-de-lo-habitual-25-years-later-producer-dave-jerden-looks-back-5916964

so was my last poo

Vivid.

Wow. I reckon it would 10 or 15 years since I sat down and listened to Three Days. It's fantastic.

That whole second side is pretty wonderful and definitely unlike most other things of that era.

God I love this record. Sad that record club didn't!

Fantastic record. Don't know where they would/could have gone next - kinda glad they imploded afterward. (I deny the existence of any post-Ritual/non-Avery work.)

Yeah, I don't think I've listened to anything they did after this. I barely ever listen to Nothing's Shocking either; I remember quite enjoying it but recall pretty much zero about it, whereas this is just scorched into my cerebellum.

'Three Days' is so far ahead of the rest of the album it's not even funny.

Of Course it isn't

Am I right in thinking there's never been a 15th/20th anniversary deluxe/remastered edition of this?

Seems slightly odd as you'd imagine there'd be a market for it.

Neither Jane's album has ever been remastered, expanded, etc. If I was doing it, it would be a 3-disc set:

1. The album, remastered, plus B-sides from the various singles (demos of "I Would for You," "Had a Dad" and "Jane Says," live "L.A. Woman/Lexicon Devil/Nausea" medley)
2. The December 1990 live show included in the Cabinet of Curiosities box
3. The movie Gift and the videos from the album on a DVD or Blu-Ray

So what you're saying is you'd re-release Cabinet of Curiosities.

Cabinet didn't include Gift.

Gift is such garbage blech. Second half of Ritual is amazing though (first half just so-so and I've never much like Nothing's Shocking).

LOL Billy Idol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDhEpqBKPsY

Alas, no Russian overdubs for "Jane's Addiction! Been caught wanking!"

It's heartening that there's been no expanded remaster to date. Maybe the noise wars will suitably subside before the 30th anniversary date and buying the deluxe treatment will mean that one won't need to keep the better sounding original master as well.

And yes, the second half of Ritual (still) rules.

xxxxps: I don't even remember a single thing about that Replacements song/video... Was surprised to learn it was on a record I once owned!

i saw this tour in Hollywood. Nine Inch Nails opened and after their set i didn't think there was any way Jane's Addiction could even come close to what i witnessed by NIN. well i was wrong, there was a reason why they were at their peak. one of the best one two punches i have ever seen. only really Nirvana with Sonic Youth comes close. well come to think about it, there have been a lot great double bills i have seen.

I saw the show I mentioned upthread, the one that's in the Cabinet of Curiosities box. Primus and the Pixies opened up.

never listened to RDLA on vinyl, how did they manage to cram 33 minutes of music on the b side?

Same way they managed with Get Up With It, I guess.

I guess this explains it:

http://www.themasterdiskrecord.com/2014/06/deciding-long-make-side-vinyl-record/

Yeah, long sides tend to be cut at a lower level and with a lot of bass rolled off. It's a huge reason why you see a lot of limited edition double vinyl albums cut at 45rpm these days - it's a sound quality thing.

Or in other words, if the album lasts an hour, it makes sense from a sound quality perspective to cut four sides of vinyl at 15 mins per side at 45rpm than two sides of vinyl at 30 minutes per side at 33&1/3rpm. You can make the grooves deeper and wider at 45rpm for better bass response. A lot of albums had a tendency to place the quieter songs at the end of sides because there was less cutting room - the further the needle spirals towards the end of the record, the less room there is to cut.

Gary Numan's Dance album is a good example of a well cut long album - it's almost half an hour on both sides of the original vinyl, but it's been cut at just the right level to allow all of the music to fit on both sides without being too quiet... sure, you have to turn up the volume a touch when you listen to it, but it still sounds good.

JIMMY PAGE: "So we were thinking 'The Rain Song' or the title track could be the first single for MTV. Maybe 'The Ocean' if –"

ATLANTIC EXEC: "First single is going to be 'The Crunge'. In fact, it's going to be the only song you guys are ever going to be known for. I guarantee it."

(Also, I'm well-aware I fucked that "joke" up slightly in the set-up.)

lol. The Crunge and Hey Hey What Can I Do.

I like how its widely accepted/an open secret that this band is pointless w out eric avery

E. Avery is the Cliff Burton of Jane's.