AMC zombie series from Frank 'Majestic' Darabont - The Walking Dead

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Yeah, I've read through Vol. 11 of the trade paperback collections. Always looking forward to new issues.

Very encouraging trailer, love the McCloud-esque vibe of the horseback bit. Given that Darabont worked with the entire film crew from The Shield whilst making The Mist I bet he's got a pretty tight idea of how to direct this kind of thing too.

Fan-made opening credits sequence. Pretty darn cool
http://vimeo.com/15266890

Can't wait for this. I've purposefully avoided the comics to avoid spoilers. Hopefully it lasts at least 3-4 seasons. Last I checked season 2 wasn't guaranteed yet, so fingers crossed.

I'm really really hyped about this; willing to give it four episodes to warm up before leveling criticism

Ha ha, yeah. I'm assuming it's going to be good for some reason. Probably should temper my expectations a bit.

hate the comic, but this seems like it'll be a big improvement

I also hate the comic but somehow feel this will be good also.

also HATE the comic but am anticipating this

Why do people hate the comic but expect this to be good? Should I not even ask?

Like, what is it that's crap about the comic but makes you think this will be good telly?

was going to ask

i like the comic actually; not sure why everyone's agin it.
But i read the first fifty-five issues in one sitting, so...

55 issues? I assumed it was a limited run kind of thing. Is it still going? Would it provide enough material for several seasons worth of stories? I don't really want to wikipedia it in case of spoilers.

I really meant to ask, "does it end?" as in "is this series going to be 5 or so seasons of awesome shit all heading towards a conclusion or is it just going to dither on and on?"

The comic's up to 76 or so issues now, and is intended to be open-ended.

walking dead comics r good, tv show might be okay if made well. one of the great things about the comic was the level of ongoing tension, even if the immediate conflict did not involve da scary zombies. it is a dark future.

one of the great things about the book is that it's continuously in motion. I don't think it's a spoiler to say that no one is safe; major characters die regularly. Stories don't settle into any one setting for too very long.

and yeah, there's enough material for five seasons, easy. Kirkman more or less wrote them in "seasons" anyway; his stuff is very storyboardy.

still, very curious to see how closely this hews to the comic. Anybody know what the word is on Kirkman's involvement/faithfulness to the comic storyline?

didn't find the comic particularly amazing, just seemed very standard zombie storyline. artwork was average, i thought. later eps were improved though.

have no idea what the tv series will be like, but i don't recall any other zombie tv/series other than the big brother feature (which i liked), so this might be rather refreshing as opposed to yet another full on zombie flick.

The admittedly small number of issues I read didn't seem to either add anything significant to zombie mythology or have particularly interesting characters.

But I will certainly watch the first couple of eps at least.

I read thar his rationale is not so much to add to the mythology (originally it was going to be set in the public domain world of Romero's first Dead film) as to fill in the viewer's desire to know what happens NEXT, and then NEXT, and then NEXT--how peoploe keep on living in the world post-zombie apocalypse, as opposed to the few days/weeks that a film can show.

zombie apocalypse is a great canvas for right wing/nra/libertarian types to express their i-told-you-so-liberal-faggits wish fullment on and i thought the books veered close to this territory too often for my reading comfort.

I really meant to ask, "does it end?" as in "is this series going to be 5 or so seasons of awesome shit all heading towards a conclusion or is it just going to dither on and on?"

This is my fear about the show as well...I know the comic goes on forever, shows like this don't seem to work when they are completely open ended and aren't headed towards any type of conclusion.

Well, what makes the comic (and in turn the show) so risky is that there is no conclusion to head toward. Most of the planet is dead or undead. What resolution could possibly occur? The only thing I can think of is some sort of "the children offer hope for the future" ending, because what else can they do?

Why do people hate the comic but expect this to be good? Should I not even ask?

because i'm pretty sure kirkman has no idea how human relationships work, and everything reads like teenage melodrama. any writer would be an improvement.

also torture porn

yyyyyeah, that sequence is not cool.

that must have been after i stopped reading (which was, i don't know, somewhere in the 20s?)

You talking about Michonne and The Governor?

i presume. that's like season two or three material though, really.

I haven't read the comic (but there are pretty convincing criticisms itt) but we bought the iTunes season pass for the show ($10 - cheap!) and I'm excited. The trailer looks pretty creepy.

i liked the first few books i guess

but the trailer for this looked pretty shitty dudes

No, it looked creepy. Didn't you read what I just posted?

oh shit - sorry

np

yeah the trailer was promising

what an embarrassment for slocki

it will be an embarrassment for YOU when the show comes out and is lame

then everyone will be like oh sorry slocki and i will be like whatever and just walk right by you w/o even making eye contact

hahaha

that will be because you are a zombie.

ya, because i made myself a real zombie because the tv version was so lame

Gnawing out your own brains in protest at terrible television is the new "I'm mad as hell and..."

fill in the viewer's desire to know what happens NEXT, and then NEXT, and then NEXT--how peoploe keep on living in the world post-zombie apocalypse, as opposed to the few days/weeks that a film can show.

If it does this at all well, then I will love it. I am fascinated by just how people are supposed to get by and live their lives under extreme circumstances, and the accommodations they have to make in order to have any order at all. What kind of barter springs up? What turns out to be useful? That kind of thing.

http://io9.com/5667199/spoiler+free-review-of-the-first-two-episodes-of-the-walking-dead

early fanboy reviews are worthless.

LOL

nothing in the show makes any sense. there are totally mountains in america. places where NOBODY could get to you. places where you could see people coming a mile away. but, in general, not going to the fancy neighborhoods to make camp makes less than no sense. they always have the best stuff.

beyond that though, the last two seasons are all about the torture of having negan around forever instead of killing him immediately which is what any sensible person would have done. they had tons of opportunities to kill him and its just kind of cruel to prolong the badness for that long. it's just dumb. it is kinda like the writers are writing the show for a really dumb audience and it wasn't like that when the show was worth watching. i mean everyone still did lots of dumb shit back then but people tend to do a lot of dumb shit. so, it made more sense then.

SPOILER WARNING if anyone cares

live on a little island or something.

the spinoff established underwater zombies so

it is kinda like the writers are writing the show for a really dumb audience and it wasn't like that when the show was worth watching.

otm, when i stopped watching around s6/7 it was 100% an ironing show

The show might as well be a video game at this point. A really dreary, video game.

I start laughing every time there are random pained, thoughtful face montages.

A house down the street from me has been flying a Walking Dead flag for years now.

I don't really know how I feel about that.

i liked this show but it's definitely just going by the numbers at this point and it seems that they're just content to have a zombie television series. i'm looking forward to potential expansion beyond the influences of the show and i hope it doesn't doesn't descend into utterly lame plot devices.

― omar little, Tuesday, November 2, 2010 11:58 AM (seven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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Fear The Walking Dead is so much better than its parent show now it's not even funny.

It's a little funny, because the only thing I've heard about that one is that it's not very good, either.

When exactly did Fear the Walking Dead get better? I bailed at episode 1 of season 3.

Episode 2 onwards

First two seasons were pretty ropey but season 3 was a marked improvement and season 4 has been pretty good so far.

It's no Wire obviously but is much, much better than TWD and actually has some characters I care about.

i got through the first season and maybe watched one or two of season two and i'd had it.

This season has been interesting as there's a couple of new characters and also one from TWD.

rufus and i were talking about how sad it was on the walking dead when the zombies become annoyances like mosquitoes and were no longer scary and how this basically started in season 7. just another reason why the show is so sad now.

i mean everyone still alive is good at killing them and living with them but still...they are so benign.

I've always thought that was one of the best takes on zombies. The Tom Savini remake of "Night of the Living Dead" I want to say even makes a big point that the zombies are easy to outrun. That's the genius of the slow zombie model: it's stupid decisions and other people that often pose the biggest problems. This show messed up by making everyone a bunch of dumb mopes seemingly unable to leave their five square miles of land.

I hated the characters/casting on Fear TWD (based on the first two seasons). Did everyone die? Is that why it became better?

There's not many of the original​ cast left now, yes.

Does FEAR still have the guy with the amazing voice? the one whose boat they escaped on at the end of S1?

Oh yeah, that guy was the only character I liked. ^^^

Same here.

He's still in the show.

This show messed up by making everyone a bunch of dumb mopes seemingly unable to leave their five square miles of land.

you can basically track the demise of the show to that episode when eugene revealed he was lying about the zombie cure. losing all hope and descending into violent neighbourhood squabbles is probably what would really happen (if they didn’t all just neck themselves — honestly who wouldn’t after all they’ve been through) and certainly cheaper to produce, but it’s remarkably boring television.

They spend way too long shooting so many bullets and panning across sweaty faces and not enough time having normal conversations that would clear up a lot of issues.

its so artless now. there is nothing cool to look at. everyone just stands around not saying anything. my fave characters have become pointless. and i figure they'll just keep making it as long as it makes money. you would think everyone in it would be so tired of doing it. unless they are all becoming insanely rich off of it.

I think they're managing to get by

Rick Grimes has been a main character on The Walking Dead since the very beginning and while that makes Andrew Lincoln one of the top-billed cast members on the show, as of the show's sixth season Lincoln has only made around $92,000 per episode. With each episode taking around eight days to film, Lincoln's total season income would come to just under $1.5 million. However, recent reports have indicated that Lincoln may have received a raise for seasons seven and eight, bringing him to around $618,000 per episode and up to par with other cable series stars.

"only"

***Spoilers for those watching Fear the Walking Dead (anybody?)***

you would think everyone in it would be so tired of doing it.

I was about to watch the last episode from last season and then pick up with the new season. From reading reviews though, this seems like a bad idea and I should just really let it go.

I stopped watching years ago but from what hear it really does seem like this show is just a bunch of delaying until they can dramatically kill off a character from season one or two.

So I still watch this out of stubborn habit and it was kind of crazy how while watching last night my stereo came on by itself and started playing my favorite Jesus and Mary Chain song at full blast.

The Hardest Walk? I am going to pick it up once I have exhausted every other show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFfLm6Ax3ss

I don't think I've watched much of this since around season 2, but apparently it's begun its final season? Weirdly curious about how a presumably endless narrative ends. I wonder if they'll just pull a "The Birds" and have all the zombies just die (again) and end on a "what now?" note.

So this shows been running for what 15 years at least?

Never watched it but I'm going to guess that it finishes similar to the big 'lol' moment at the end of The Mist, and the main character looks at the camera breaking the fourth wall with an 'oops, waddya gonna do' shrug.

Final LONG TWD collection #32 synopsis here. Jumped off with Negan, so only see TWD commercials, but since they've done the Whisperers and I saw Princess has shown up, assume it'll follow the trades in broad strokes.