at least I keep it to one thread
― iatee, Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link
high-density trolling
man u h8 cars
― yuoowemeone, Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i was kind of serious, the free parking issue is a big deal
― goole, Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
fat suburban cokeheads
― buzza, Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link
a hummer, parking on a human face, forever, with some blow in the trunk, and the air on, and chillwave playing
― goole, Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
I grew up in socal and am aware of how shitty the transit status quo is
You know damn well that Laurel was not talking about how bad the bus routes are in Southern California.
― a Bud Light Chelada 22 oz. on a sort of a date (kkvgz), Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link
we know a place where no hipsters go.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link
1. the current 'this is not a choice' = the end result of many choices!
all choices are not the same. choices made by society/govts as a whole over the course of time doesn't equate to individuals now having a "choice". Maybe you're not saying it does equate to that, but if not, don't know wtf your point is.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
When is the market going to perfect nuclear fusion so we can go back to being parochial, individualistic suburbanites living an air conditioned nightmare without worrying about fucking up the planet?
― Un peu d'Eire, ça fait toujours Dublin (Michael White), Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link
~2015
― oneohtosh point never (m bison), Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link
come on, biofuels! cars without internal combustion engines just aren't the same.
― Kerm, Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link
uh my point is that we're in the situation we're in because of quite specific policy decisions that were made, many of which can be reversed when the political willpower is there. this basically happened in LA, which reached the logical endpoint of suburban planning before anyone else did, looked around and said 'oh shit'.
on an individual level, that makes it as much of a personal 'choice' as, idk, going to war in iraq. I am not blaming laurel, individually, for suburbia, btw.
I think my suburbian ca experience - somewhere w/ a barebones transit system is probably closer to the american mean than, idk, someone in a gigantic rural area w/ absolutely no alt transit options. the vast majority of americans live in suburban+urban regions.
― iatee, Friday, 3 September 2010 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.theonion.com/articles/84-million-new-yorkers-suddenly-realize-new-york-c,18003/
― iatee, Friday, 3 September 2010 01:14 (thirteen years ago) link
that was a good article but the whole "this is how we do it in NYC" angle was pretty lol
― shorn_blond.avi (dayo), Friday, 3 September 2010 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link
I live in a city where parking spaces cost more than renting an equivalent sized apartment, and where there's a 100% tax on cars above a certain strata, but the streets are still clogged with cars
― shorn_blond.avi (dayo), Friday, 3 September 2010 01:19 (thirteen years ago) link
idk if there's still traffic, the taxes aren't high enough
― iatee, Friday, 3 September 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I am not blaming laurel, individually, for suburbia, btw.
this is very nice of you
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Friday, 3 September 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link
hahahahahahaha ok since i know where dayo lives u r uber hilarious to me at the moment
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Friday, 3 September 2010 01:22 (thirteen years ago) link
No, I totes understand what historically led up to suburbs and our spread-out-ness, and I do not approve, by and large. But I only know about non-suburban, properly rural areas from personal experience, and I get annoyed at ideas that posit people there are driving places in their luxury SUVs because they can't be bothered. They have expenses just like everyone else and would prefer NOT to spend $$$ on gasoline etc but...!
Also I am trying, with my partner, to move to somewhere less urban than currently, and facing the possible reality of needing cars. Would MUCH rather go to a small urban area but we have to go where JOBS ARE, and that may mean driving. It sux but we can't live without work.
― Jesus doesn't want me for a thundercloud (Laurel), Friday, 3 September 2010 01:22 (thirteen years ago) link
idaho iirc? xp
― iatee, Friday, 3 September 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link
ydnrc
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Friday, 3 September 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link
dddayyyo
― a Bud Light Chelada 22 oz. on a sort of a date (kkvgz), Friday, 3 September 2010 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link
look, hk is (one of the best examples of) a place where there are a lot of people sharing a limited space. each car takes up the room of 9 people - and in a place w/ expensive real estate, should pay for the privilege, esp when there isn't even enough room on the already-oversized road system for the current quantity of cars. everyone in hk can't own a car, not even theoretically.
― iatee, Friday, 3 September 2010 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link
this is among my less fringe beliefs btw - this sort of system has already been enacted in london and is the inevitable future for hk, manhattan etc.
― iatee, Friday, 3 September 2010 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link
perhaps u should send them a memo
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Friday, 3 September 2010 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link
why am i still on this thread
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Friday, 3 September 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link
on an individual level, that makes it as much of a personal 'choice' as, idk, going to war in iraq
so like 0% personal choice then
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 September 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link
uh they are quite familiar with it. bloomberg launched an attempt and it failed for political reasons. but 10-20 years from now you can bank on it I think.
xp
― iatee, Friday, 3 September 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 September 2010 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link
33 minutes ago
why are suburbanites so slow
― iatee, Friday, 3 September 2010 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link
still cant really figure out why ppl get so mad at iatee itt
― max, Friday, 3 September 2010 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I shouldn't have started off so accusatory. but iirc I was a miserable office worker going for a one msg "agh I hate X" post and wasn't planning on a policy debate thread.
― iatee, Friday, 3 September 2010 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/10/13/transit-mode-share-trends-looking-steady-rail-appears-to-encourage-non-automobile-commutes/
― iatee, Thursday, 14 October 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
lol at portlands biking figure
― max, Thursday, 14 October 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link
gross: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/09/human_landscapes_in_sw_florida.html
― The Reverend, Sunday, 17 October 2010 07:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Walking in Arlington Virginia this evening. I have come to the forgone conclusion that anything beyond Clarendon Virginia is a shithole. I explored Virginia Square and found nothing of value but some overpriced apartment complexes, a few stores and empty suburban plots. There was Ballston Common but like many suburban malls are nothing but empty representations of urban decay.
― The Startrekman, Sunday, 17 October 2010 08:02 (thirteen years ago) link
You need to keep walking west, and you'll eventually hit Shenandoah National Park. It's pretty awesome. Might take you a while, though.
― Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Sunday, 17 October 2010 09:24 (thirteen years ago) link
each journey begins with one step
― The Startrekman, Monday, 18 October 2010 08:13 (thirteen years ago) link
what models of keyboards do they sell in Arlington's stores?
― rmde cat and the dweebs (DJ Mencap), Monday, 18 October 2010 08:38 (thirteen years ago) link
I dunno, I am no fan of NoVa but I feel like their suburban malls are far more likely than most to contain awesome Vietnamese restaurants
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 18 October 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I wish i knew what music stores sold synthesizers. I know of the now defunct KITT's Music which sold stuff from Roland and Yamaha. It was mainly digital pianos with synth sounds. I also went to a Marks Music in 2002 and they sold an Andromeda Synth there. Other than that, I don't know.
Maybe I was a little harsh when saying everything west of Clarendon VA is a shithole. In fact, Arlington VA is the best place in NoVa to be besides Alexandria. I explored it during the night and not in the light of day. When I am up there again, I will explore Virginia Square and Falls Church. I will make my assessment then.
― The Startrekman, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 04:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Ballston Common and Pentagon City has them sweet Vietnamese Restaurants and Massage Parlors. I know I have used both. Man can those people get the most years of tension out of your system.
― The Startrekman, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 04:07 (thirteen years ago) link
keep on (star)trekkin', man
― uh oh I'm blogging for gawker (buzza), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 06:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Man can those people get the most years of tension out of your system.
IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 06:43 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― straight outta furnace (The Reverend), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 08:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Maybe I was a little harsh when saying everything west of Clarendon VA is a shithole
can we start a board called I Love America and make this the permanent board description?
― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 09:31 (thirteen years ago) link
my uncle's been working on this thing for years:
http://www.wttw.com/main.taf?p=42,8,80&pid=GuJRA_EpFgUUG_zaNnG5Lr9ljw_xTCHR
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.infrastructurist.com/2010/11/05/is-the-digital-age-changing-our-desire-to-drive/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39970363/ns/business-autos/
― iatee, Monday, 8 November 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Can't happen quickly enough...
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 November 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link