michael bay to direct
― former moderator, please give generously (DG), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
the tv show is so insanely good
so slow and subtle
so awesome
― real s1ock (s1ocki), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link
the opening scene of the 70s 'tinker tailor', where the spies all sit down and smoke, not saying a word but speaking volumes, is prob my fave bit of telly ever, partly cos i used to work very near cambridge circus, seen in the very first shot:― Ward Fowler, Friday, November 20, 2009 6:52 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark
― Ward Fowler, Friday, November 20, 2009 6:52 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark
otm
not mad on guinness's stuff when he was younger, tbh, but he totally shreds in this
― i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i was just thinking about watching this again. "smiley's people" is really good too.
― the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
i remember watching the tv show when i was abt 12 and liked le carré, i wanted to like it but it was too slow for me then
― nakhchivan, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link
benedict cumberbatch hahaha just fucking cast bill nighy and make it a romantic comedy*
*[placeholder for explanation of how it already is]
― former moderator, please give generously (DG), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
wonder if they'll leave in the two female characters
― i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i really love how the tv version kind of starts off on this note of smiley being this totally out-of-the-loop outsider who is "too old for this shit", and then he sits down with the british agents at the estate house to meet with the spy-on-the-run, and he takes off his glasses and puts them back on and gives this dude a look which says in an instant that he's the smartest and toughest dude around and it's like "oh shit."
mark strong just got cast, too. so it's him and oldman, firth, cumberbatch, hinds, ralph fiennes and tom hardy.
― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Holy shit. It might actually work.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I found Honorable Schoolboy to be a little odd and difficult to relate to.
One big problem with that one was the woman character, who is as badly drawn as all Le Carre women characters (with possible exception of Connie). I do wonder sometimes whether Le Carre has ever met any actual women.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link
But I still totally love TTSS and SP.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
he takes off his glasses and puts them back on and gives this dude a look which says in an instant that he's the smartest and toughest dude around and it's like "oh shit."
otfm
― rmde @ the romo dumplings (history mayne), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Absolutely the best moment of the whole series, I get chills just thinking about it.
― Moodles, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
not sure if this was mentioned but it's apparently retaining the cold war era for the setting.
― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Thank god for that.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link
man i gotta find my dvds of the show so i can watch it again
― guanciale diary (s1ocki), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I have a hard time imagining that this could touch the miniseries, which was pretty much perfect.
― Moodles, Friday, November 20, 2009 11:44 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i have a hard time imagining that i can't touch my miniseries as someone has borrowed it and i can't remember who :(
― 311 is a joek (s1ocki), Friday, November 20, 2009 11:57 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark
― guanciale diary (s1ocki), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
it's always in the place where you least expect it, like the amazon marketplace page of your friend or acquaintance.
― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Unwittingly I've only watched the compressed, US six-episode (instead of seven) version of the series. Apparently they've even jumbled the chronology of some scenes around. Anyone seen both?
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link
oh shit, that's the version i've seen too (via netflix).
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Basically I'm going to get and watch the original no matter how trivial the differences might be. Every scene could be longer. Feels like I can still taste the words exchanged between Smiley and Prideaux in the car, at the hotel, walking around the moors.
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Kathy Burke as Connie Sachs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1322727/Kathy-Burke-star-film-version-John-le-Carr-s-Tinker-Tailor-Soldier-Spy.html
― nate woolls, Friday, 22 October 2010 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link
gonna be great this i can feel it. god knows how they're going to squelch it all down to 2 hours. if they can nail the Ricky Tarr bit they've got the rest i think.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link
tom hardy playing ricky tarr fyi
― omar little, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:39 (thirteen years ago) link
super stoked for this... killer cast
― Princess TamTam, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 08:11 (thirteen years ago) link
boom
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/video/2011/jun/30/tinker-tailor-soldier-spy-traiker
― where ilxor ends and markers begins (history mayne), Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:39 (twelve years ago) link
love john hurt
― devoted to boats (schlump), Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:47 (twelve years ago) link
holy shit i am pumped for this
― Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:53 (twelve years ago) link
Probably this is going to be good (Gary Oldman and John Hurt are great), but Smiley and Guinness for me are so inextricably linked that it is impossible to imagine a different actor in that role.
― Marco Damiani, Thursday, 30 June 2011 10:06 (twelve years ago) link
true, hope they pull it off
good to see benny cumby and tom hardy reteaming
― where ilxor ends and markers begins (history mayne), Thursday, 30 June 2011 10:14 (twelve years ago) link
Oldman looks the part in that trailer altho he's perhaps still too good-looking to be Smiley, also I can't quite tell from the trail if it's set in period or not, some of the shots look like it is but some don't. Anyway I'm pretty sure this will rock and I demand they do the full trilogy.
― SB OK (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 June 2011 11:53 (twelve years ago) link
it's set in ~the past~ for deffo
― where ilxor ends and markers begins (history mayne), Thursday, 30 June 2011 11:56 (twelve years ago) link
'it's the male bridesmaids' - a blogger who gets it
― where ilxor ends and markers begins (history mayne), Thursday, 30 June 2011 11:57 (twelve years ago) link
every shot looks period to me
― Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 30 June 2011 12:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah consider me stoked. looks like exactly the right tone. still hard to get my head around a non Guinness/BBC version but hey.
― piscesx, Thursday, 30 June 2011 12:27 (twelve years ago) link
Definitely could work, the brief bit of the Karla interrogation scene was solid.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 June 2011 12:34 (twelve years ago) link
oldman doing his best obi-wan impression
― conrad, Thursday, 30 June 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link
its still set in the 1970s according to wikipedia
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 30 June 2011 13:15 (twelve years ago) link
i just rescreened this the other week and it put me on a le carre book/movie/miniseries kick. the miniseries for a perfect spy is kinda 'eh' (though i dont love the novel as much as everyone else does); smiley's people is pretty good but not as good as this.
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 30 June 2011 13:16 (twelve years ago) link
sick trailer btw
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 30 June 2011 13:18 (twelve years ago) link
pretty stoked for this based on the trailer, never seen or read any le carré.
― Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 30 June 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link
i pretty much love anything with spies and the cold war.
dude!!
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 30 June 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link
excited for this!
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
so many craggy-looking british dudes!
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
new board description
― mizzell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
haha. oldman is so good. has he really never won an oscar?
― tylerw, Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
'oscar' and 'good at acting' are pretty bad predictors of ea. other
― thomp, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i know. just the "gary oldman BAFTA winner - colin firth academy award winner" thing at the end struck me as wrong.
― tylerw, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
Psyched for this even though it can't possibly improve upon the mini-series.
― Moodles, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
You’re all out of your minds. Jayston’s audiobooks are great. (Apart from the American accents)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 November 2023 03:55 (six months ago) link
not THS- Australian is painful
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 3 November 2023 04:00 (six months ago) link
Fair. the “Asian” accents in that aren’t great either. Bad audiobook of a bad book.
He can do some non English accents (perfect spy and small town in Germany are full of them).
If you think he’s bad you should listen to the night manager read by David case. Preposterous.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 November 2023 04:16 (six months ago) link
I think this is my fault, as I read The Secret Pilgrim for the first time this week and enjoyed having a few more stories set during the various Smiley eras…
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/nov/10/john-le-carres-son-to-write-new-george-smiley-novel
― carson dial, Friday, 10 November 2023 16:51 (six months ago) link
george groany
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 10 November 2023 16:57 (six months ago) link
Amazon was pushing his Titanium Noir on me in recommendations but ugh
"A virtuosic mashup of Philip K. Dick and Raymond Chandler by way of Marvel—the story of a detective investigating the murder of a Titan, one of society’s most powerful, medically-enhanced elites. • “Cross-genre brilliance from the superbly talented Nick Harkaway.” —William Gibson, New York Times best-selling author of Agency"
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 10 November 2023 17:32 (six months ago) link
Anyone seen the new morris doc on Apple TV yet?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 10 November 2023 19:55 (six months ago) link
rip jerry westerby
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 November 2023 01:43 (five months ago) link
roddy martindale might be among my most bad and hated characters ever
https://media.tenor.com/kRKSXNGI84sAAAAC/what-have-you-been-doing-alec-guinness.gif
'love to ann!'
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 05:19 (four months ago) link
https://snappishproductions.com/images/gfy/love-to-ann.gif
― carson dial, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 12:07 (four months ago) link
most other characters just give it to her directly
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 18:04 (four months ago) link
i’ve got the line “Willie Andrewarthur always was the most godawful liar” stuck in my head. Something v earwormy about Nigel Stock’s performance.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 20 January 2024 12:40 (three months ago) link
me confusing nigel stock with nigel bruce (both of course played sherlock's watson, albeit several decades apart) totally made me wtf for a moment there lol -- nigel bruce was NOT in tinker tailor soldier spy
― mark s, Saturday, 20 January 2024 13:47 (three months ago) link
never read sherlock
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 January 2024 16:48 (three months ago) link
was watching this (again). smiley’s “oh damn! oh damn!” after his meeting with martindale is in the book caused by realising he’s left the volume of grimmelshausen he’s just bought at the club. in the adaptation he has “entrusted it to the postal service” after seeing peter guillam trying to intercept it. makes it a bit of a clumsy or incoherent line, even for alec guinness.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 20 January 2024 16:50 (three months ago) link
he’s left it at the club. he didn’t buy it at the club.
nigel bruce as roddy martindale would have been a thing!
― Fizzles, Saturday, 20 January 2024 16:51 (three months ago) link
this is imo unresolved
in the series it seems a very deliberate detail in the change a d in the timing of the change
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 January 2024 16:51 (three months ago) link
ann likes smiley bcz he's secretly 1 x GOTH
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Simplicissimus_Cover_page1669.jpg
― mark s, Saturday, 20 January 2024 16:54 (three months ago) link
xpostthe other - obvious - thing is that a) martindale is quite an appealing character and b) that he gets v close with his gossip and surmise to the heart of the problem. expresses what is said at the end of the book - that everyone in some way *knew* it was haydon. it was just impossible to admit - psychologically or organisationally.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 20 January 2024 16:54 (three months ago) link
this is imo unresolvedin the series it seems a very deliberate detail in the change a d in the timing of the change
― Fizzles, Saturday, 20 January 2024 16:57 (three months ago) link
hard to imagine smiley monologuing (word? sp?) so coherently and stagily alright
but i meant, and still mean, the decision to post the book
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 January 2024 17:15 (three months ago) link
oh yes. i think it’s a decision forced by the dramatisation tbh. too awkward to get it into the club and post club scenes.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 20 January 2024 17:23 (three months ago) link
maybe it shorthands smiley seeing gwilm and changing his plans, gives him an object to explicitly speak to someone about that shows this happening
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 January 2024 17:50 (three months ago) link
as i noted in the obit thread, now that Michael Jayston has passed away, all of the main cast of the BBC series is now gone. though we've still got Ann Smiley and Karla.
― omar little, Monday, 5 February 2024 19:58 (three months ago) link