Werner Herzog films: c/d/s/d

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Search the Even Dwarves Started Small DVD with the weird Crispin Glover commentary.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 20 May 2004 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

No-one has mentioned "Kaspar Hauser" so far!!!!!!!!!!! I've cried more at "Land of Silence and Darkness" than I've cried at any film in film history.... and that includes "E.T."

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 20 May 2004 10:12 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...
What is NOT good about him?

adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Perhaps he is not a nice person? But he is a fascinating one.

Who has read Herzog On Herzog?

adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Me

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link

What's not nice about him?

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I imagine him as someone who does not have the time or patience for the formal niceties you and I engage in on a daily basis.

Tell me about the book, please.

adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link

he has or had an editing studio in berkeley. My friend worked there for like a week. she had to bring him tea. she never had anything unpleasant to report though.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link

It's great. It's probably the best thing he's done in years. Too many anecdotes to repeat here. He seems like a very patient man to me. (xpost)

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I believe he lectured at UC Berkeley.

adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a vague memory of seeing "Burden of Dreams" the film about the making of Fitzcarraldo. A movie loving friend of mine says that it's greater than Fitzcarraldo itself. i wish they had put it on the DVD of Fitzcarraldo - although i have had that for over a year and not got round to it yet.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I've had it for three and still not watched it! or kasper hauser either. maybe I should do that.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Kasper Hauser is maybe a perfect film.

adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link

You are denying yourself.

adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I've had it for three and still not watched it! or kasper hauser either. maybe I should do that.

No maybe's about it (For "Kaspar" I mean)

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

my best fiend is one of the best movies ever

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Kaspar Hauser is the best!

I've read Herzog on Herzog, it's amazing.

I've also watched both Kaspar Hauser and Hearts of Glass with the director commentary on. He is amazingly entertaining.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Watch "Land of Silence and Darkness", it's his best documentary and one of the best films ever made

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

So what do we think about Incident at Loch Ness?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I love this anecdote from Ebert's review:

Rather than say exactly what I think about the veracity of "Incident at Loch Ness," let me tell you a story. A few years ago at the Telluride Film Festival, Herzog invited me to his hotel room to see videos of two of his new documentaries. One was about the Jesus figures of Russia, men who dress, act and speak like Jesus and walk through the land being supported by their disciples. The other was about a town whose citizens believe that a city of angels exists on the bottom of a deep lake and can be seen through the ice at the beginning of winter. Wait too long, and the ice is too thick to see through. Crawl onto the ice too soon, and you fall in.

Herzog has made many great documentaries in his career, and I was enthralled by both of these. He's a master of the cinema, with an instinct for the bizarre and unexpected. After I saw the films, he said he only had one more thing to tell me: Both of the documentaries were complete fiction.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 October 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, I started this topic! Years ago!

Search God's Angry Man, I finally tracked down a copy of it.

Going to see Incident at Loch Ness today.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 28 October 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Herzog PWNS. Herzog on Herzog PWNS.

I just bought "Land of Silence and Darkness!"

identity theftor (deangulberry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

"God's Angry Man" PWNS too, even at < an hour.

identity theftor (deangulberry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

we need a animated jpg of the dancing monkeys to put on every thread

still bevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 28 October 2004 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I HAD ONE! LET ME FIND IT

"FCC MONKEY BAND"

identity theftor (deangulberry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

gene scott has little patience for simian precussionists

still bevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 28 October 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link

search: herzog in julien-donkey boy; 'kaspar hauser'; 'fitzcarraldo'; 'aguirre, the wrath of god'.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 28 October 2004 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link

you know which one I saw a few months back which blew my mind? FATA MORGANA. Echoey Sahara Desert travelogue with almost no dialogue, until the final third, where they show up at a bordello, and just... hang out.

I've never seen a bad Herzog film.

(Jon L), Thursday, 28 October 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm otm.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 28 October 2004 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I have seen a bad Herzog actually, now that I think about it ... Where The Green Ants Dream is pretty bad.

identity theftor (deangulberry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Invincible was bad at times, probably the worst Herzog I've seen. You just can win when you have an overly earnest kid part in a film.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 28 October 2004 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Incident at Loch Ness was very amusing. At this point in Herzog's career mocking himself is one of the better things he can do.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 29 October 2004 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i've never seen a w.h. film

amateur!!st, Friday, 29 October 2004 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I have many, I can let you borrow them.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 29 October 2004 04:07 (nineteen years ago) link

but will you?

grammateur!!st, Friday, 29 October 2004 04:08 (nineteen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000067X3.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

yes, I WILL

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 29 October 2004 04:14 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.sonymusic.com.tw/album/494939-2/494939-2-b.jpg

OK

amateur!!st, Friday, 29 October 2004 04:17 (nineteen years ago) link

MASSIVE fucking classic.
Didn't like Heart of glass.
Saw virtually everything else mentioned up thread tho' and found it all brill.
Search: aguirre, fitzcarraldo, kaspar hauser, little dieter, nosferateau for starters.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 October 2004 05:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd interested to know if anyone has seen Werner Herzog Eats his Shoe. Apparently, he promised Errol Morris (another feature documentary maker) that he would eat his own shoe if Errol completed a his long term project Mr Death, which he did in 95. So next time they met up Errol made him keep his word.
-- K-reg (drelocatio...), November 6th, 2001 7:00 PM.

Actually, the film was Gates of Heaven. W.H. Eats His Shoe is like the greatest film trailer of all time.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2004 09:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Apparently, Les Blank's doc on the making of Fitzcarraldo is even more classic.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2004 09:12 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, that's classic.

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 29 October 2004 09:26 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
herzog rules me. nosferatu is one of the very few remakes i've seen that actually works.. and has great artistic merit in its own right. i'm thinking i need a herzog box set if such a thing exists. i just bought stroszeck the other day.. i love films like this, which portray life so starkly. some time last year i went to his premiere of wheel of time at the la county museum of art.. it's a doc the dalai lama commissioned him to make about buddhism and the pilgrimage to bodh gaya.. intriguing, but at many points i felt detached since herzog admittedly doesn't know a great deal about buddhism (and neither do i). i guess it's one of those projects that is designed to make you want to research the subject.. so that's probably a sign it's a fairly successful film.

steph jam (steph jam), Sunday, 9 January 2005 23:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I love halfway through the thread when kyle and jed talk about owning Herzog films and still not having watched them. I bought used copies of those two Anchor Bay collections for insanely cheap (less than $100 for both, iirc) sometime last year and still haven't watched any of the films except for Lessons in Darkness. Herzog must just be attractive to keep at arms length.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 10 January 2005 00:17 (nineteen years ago) link

the book title herzog on herzog has the potential to be a compelling pr0n, starring, of course.. herzog. or maybe it could be lena herzog and werner herzog. his wife is a hot younger blonde.

steph jam (steph jam), Monday, 10 January 2005 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Werner Herzog has the best voice for DVD commentary tracks.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 10 January 2005 00:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Werner Herzog has the best voice for Earth.

American Apparel and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Monday, 10 January 2005 01:04 (nineteen years ago) link

his short documentary on american livestock auctioneers is pretty great. it centers around an annual contest of some of the fastest-speaking motherfuckers i've ever heard. i think it's called "how much wood could a woodchuck chuck?"

contribute, Monday, 10 January 2005 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link

It's so sad at the beginning of 'the enigma of kaspar hauser' when it says 'every man for himself and god against all'

mm, Monday, 10 January 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Looking forward to Lo And Behold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pv8Qj0Vkbo

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 29 January 2016 05:49 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

I am Werner Herzog, the filmmaker. AMA.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 17 July 2016 00:20 (seven years ago) link

nine months pass...

Nobby Stiles? You're having a laugh, Werner.

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/video/werner-herzog-picks-his-favourite-england-players

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 8 May 2017 00:35 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

He had a new one streaming for free on MUBI yesterday, 'Family Romance, LLC', about a company in Japan that rents stand-in family members. Anyone catch it?

Not spectacular, but I liked it, and it was a nice little play with the ideas of what's real and what's fake, and was funny in a rather sad & awkward kind of a way. The company is apparently real and the main guy plays himself in this film, but acting out fictional scenarios devised by Herzog. It's filmed in a very raw style, so could feel like a basic documentary much of the time, and has an odd, stilted, rather awkward vibe as well.

Loved the short scene of the guy in the train station getting a dressing down.

brain (krakow), Saturday, 4 July 2020 10:40 (three years ago) link

there was a piece in the new yorker about this phenomenon, no ?

budo jeru, Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

Didn’t get around to watching it, but it’s on MUBI now for members.

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 July 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I think that piece was what inspired the film, budo jeru. According to The Observer today it was this one from 2018 written by Elif Batuman that set Herzog to making the film: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/30/japans-rent-a-family-industry

Yesterday the film had a wee intro from Herzog and a short 10-15 min. Q&A between him and someone from MUBI... wonder if that's included with the ongoing streaming?

brain (krakow), Saturday, 4 July 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

Saw it yesterday and agreed on its relative strengths. It felt like a scenario in an early 70s film that was transposed to a current setting where it actually happens.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 4 July 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

Still has the 5 minute intro. Is the Q&A at the end?

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 July 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

Yeah, the Q&A is still at the end.

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 July 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

the vulcanology film, The Fire Within, is on bbc4 tonight at 9pm

koogs, Monday, 17 October 2022 10:43 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

We're watching WHERE THE GREEN ANTS DREAM on VHS lol. I didn't know anything about it (in spite of seeing most? many? Herzog films) so I wasn't sure what it was about or anything and have been enjoying it so far.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link

We also recently watched THE FIRE WITHIN and I really liked it. We tried to watch the Miranda July movie about the Kraffts ("Fire of Love") and I found it unbearable but typically (for me) the Herzog approach was significantly more appealing.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link

Lol, i also hated Fire of Love but liked Fire Within! Miranda July's voice is like an ointment seeping down your leg.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link

xpost We tried to watch that one as well and found it equally unbearable. I bailed after maybe 20 minutes, I think my wife lasted a little longer but couldn't make it until the end.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link

Where the green ants dream is great but it is in the shadow of Fitzcarraldo (and no Klaus Kinski)

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link

xpost to me (The July narrated one, tbc)

I feel like I have seen more than my fair share of volcano documentaries, they all kind of blend in to another.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link

Miranda July's voice is like an ointment seeping down your leg.

lol

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link

My wife was gifted a year-long subscription to that Master Class series and I actually watched a few of the Werner Herzog episodes/talks. Pretty fun, pretty interesting.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

It’s not her voice specifically for me — it’s the information/content she chooses to highlight and the twee nature of all of her output. I’ve avoided her work so far because I was pretty sure I wouldn’t like it — idk why I thought this volcano movie would be any different? Joke’s on me!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

hadnt realized Fire of Love was a miranda july joint, glad i dodged that bullet

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 18:47 (one year ago) link

It's not, though. It was written and directed by Sara Dosa. July is the narrator.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link

July brings her patented bored treacle vibe to play in the enunciation tho, hard to get past it.
the greater sin imo is that we get all this ephemera and personal life presumption but minimal volcanology and meaningful science. after an hour i was still like "yes but WHY are they running around next to volcanos like suicidal idiots"

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:05 (one year ago) link

real q - did MJ write the narration or did she read a script written by a different person and/or the director?

honestly for me it was the nature of the movie and the googly-eyed "aw @ their volcanic love" angle/lack of substance about wtf they were doing (as forks describes) that didn't appeal to me. it felt insipid when we're talking life and death and lava.

herzog himself is certainly no stranger to imitation and parody; i happen to enjoy his narration but i can see how easy it would be to mock it. that two such opposing narrators could even exist is somewhat amusing to me.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link

people who dislike miranda july are rong imo :(

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link

maybe -- i will admit that i am unable to enjoy a certain type of wholesome entertainment.

know what earthly substance dgaf about your enduring volcanic love for each other? churning lava

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

ha, yes.
also the pseudo-Wes Anderson direction did this no favors with its manneristic obviousness; killed most of my interest in the leads dead in its tracks

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link

> herzog himself is certainly no stranger to imitation and parody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y_kfWUCFDQ

koogs, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link

july ain't anymore twee than harry crews

massaman gai (front tea for two), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 21:55 (one year ago) link

that's a weird comparison and i'm a big fan so i'm gonna say no and post this video of crews explaining how to cook a possum as proof otherwise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5kjm9IuIMc

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link

we watched some shorts last night. Last Word was easily my favorite because the music was amazzzzzing. Precautions Against Fanatics runner up bc it was so quietly funny.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:15 (one year ago) link


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