Battlestar Galactica Revival

Adama's big speech about earth at the end of the miniseries = pretty fuckin obvious

hey did you notice how many of the characters have names from ancient earth cultures? WHOAH

you know what I mean

if this was supposed to be an alien lifeform/culture that has, as a surprise, evolved/developed exactly along the same lines as that of earth has except they know all about space and have better guns and don't know about "fuck", well, fine. but this is twelve-thirteenths of an ancient civilisation that has been apart from the other thirteenth since no-one can remember and that thirteenth came to earth and joined in w/ life here? at what point? did they know the planet they were heading for when they left the rest of them? did they bring their culture and knowledge, so far, and got everyone to pretend they didn't know all about space and got them to change it to "fuck"? were these names and their number system and slang and so on theirs and they brought it w/ them even though they appear at certain points in earth's own history? maybe they revealed it bit by bit so it didn't seem suspicious. perhaps all the names, etc, in this television programme are just being replaced w/ earthly approximations to colour it for earthly viewing. these are pointless questions but about things that occasionally pass through, probably, a lot of the minds of people who watch this and other, similar science-fiction stuff and slightly unsuspend your disbelief. when they choose to call a ship "the olympic carrier" and people "apollo" and "thrace" and "hot dog", well, it makes me, at least, think "um", occasionally, whether I want to or not. like when the camera flies about in space and zooms in on a particular ship and I think "am I supposed to be thinking about this being filmed by a person that is in space?". that's all!

all your crossposts

there are many clues but still ambiguity as to actual time
one issue with that is, like, why are there no battlestars and why am i not in a spaceship right now
did they all fall out of the ship and onto earth and forget about space technology and then build aqueducts instead?
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omg apollo is british?!

their trick of making me think "well, this isn't like it is on earth" is cutting all the corners of their letters and maps and playing cards and tables

hahaha
in the future/past there are no right angles

apollo actor *is* british!

so why doesn't battlestar galactica have any british people?

did they all fall out of the ship and onto earth and forget about space technology and then build aqueducts instead?

Angry monotheism God followed them to earth and punished humanity by trapping us here/making us forget our true nature, etc.

i mean they have a mexican and a mulatto, don't they

(iow what PKD/Grant Morrison/crazy gnostics and Peruvian UFO watchers said)

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oh i guess gaius is britishes

gaius is so very english

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still doesnt make sense to me--was there a britain on caprica?

okay I admit that one occurred to me too - but I do appreciate the Gaius = Britishes = Roman (specifically Caligula) connection

dear britishes - why do the evil people in sci-fi films always have british accents. thx from an american

Gaius = Britishes = Roman?

sometimes they're german or english doing german accents

um yeah there was this thing called the Roman Empire that the British Empire was rather deeply endebted to.

Gaius is the only Roman name on the show too, afaic

on rome all the romans have british accents

wait til you get to near the end of season 3, when Gaius goes all class warrior and starts fucking around with his accent

xp: every bit of sci fi since star wars has british accents, since in lazy(?) shorthand for an american audience, british accent = imperial

certain british accents are decidedly not imperial tho

this goes outside sci-fi obv too

certain british accents are decidedly not imperial tho

-- rrrobyn, Thursday, 14 June 2007 09:23 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

So, like, is that why the lawyer dude is Irish rather than, say, English? Coz the bro is tortally not imperialist? He's just busting out some "justice is blind" bullshit, but he's still, like, part of teh imperial tenticles whoa.

?

I demand all future bad guys to have Parthian or Hunnish accents.

um yeah there was this thing called the Roman Empire that the British Empire was rather deeply endebted to.

in terms of being called "an empire"?

sorry, I meant

um yeah in terms of being called "an empire"?

oh, inverted comma

i think cylon xena just has an australian accent, if only a slight one
and there are plenty of canadian accents masquerading as 'neutral' or something

,,empire,,

um yeah, Xena is a ,,kiwi,, but she might be doing a bit of strine.

I meant ,,strine,, obvs

ohnoes i totally mixed up aus and nz! i even know the difference
oh well
accents

I actually thought she sounded more Australian than Kiwi on BSG anyway.

that's like mixing up brooklyn and queens accents

somehow accents on tv don't sound like accents in real life though

that's like mixing up brooklyn and queens accents

-- cutty, Thursday, 14 June 2007 09:52 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Dude! Grossly offended etc.

i've never seen a people more sensitive about accents than the aussies/kiwis

south africans probably have some issues

um yeah in terms of being called "an empire"?

well sure yeah plus in terms of government, language, ethnicity, history, foreign policy ad infinitum

well sure yeah the government of british empire plus a lot of other governments in the history of the world? this is just because it's "an empire"?

well sure yeah the language has a ton of words derived from latin plus their alphabet but is a completely different language. especially when you have italian and spanish and french and stuff. it's not like britain was like "looks like this will be an empire soon--let's talk more like the romans". unless you mean the romans led the way for germanic people and their language or that some of the language of government ("government") is derived from latin? like it isn't everywhere else

well sure yeah there were roman guys in britian plus a lot of invaders and migrants of different ethnicities, incl. the anglo-saxons and norse, who far more affected the ethnicity of the founders of the british empire. again, a lot of other places are far more decended from the romans than the british

well sure yeah the history plus the history of europe and the world. come on

there is a similarity between the roman empire and the british empire only in v general terms. your terms are v v v v general and not good

in terms of intention, wouldn't you prefer the nazi germany or even the holy roman empire? all the people that wanted to rule the whole of europe when the british empire ruled a ton of places but

america probably has more in common w/ the roman empire than the british empire did

America has plenty in common with the Roman Empire, and one of the reasons it does is because there's a clear historical line from Rome -> England -> America. The entire concept of representative government administered by a complex and centralized bureacracy is Roman in nature - England borrowed heavily from it throughout its history. I can't believe you even wanna contest the language thing, considering the other examples you mention as influencing English are all LATIN (ie, ROMAN) languages.

unless you mean the romans led the way for germanic people and their language or that some of the language of government ("government") is derived from latin? like it isn't everywhere else

Yeah, they totally did, and no it is not like that everywhere else. Europe /= the entire world.

get one Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, or Cicero, or jesus any history book.

like when the camera flies about in space and zooms in on a particular ship and I think "am I supposed to be thinking about this being filmed by a person that is in space?

when you watch a shot of two people talking in a room do you wonder WHO ELSE IS IN THE ROOM WITH THEM filming the scene?!? whoah - mindblowing!

when you go to the movies do you check behind the screen for the actors?

the external shots of the burrowing capsule thing in The Core - ROFL

considering the other examples you mention as influencing English are all LATIN (ie, ROMAN) languages.

yes, I wasn't giving examples of languages that have influenced english but romance languages that latin has influenced more than it has english. the same way I was giving examples of why the british empire, in particular, is not especially like the roman empire

there's a clear historical line from Rome -> England -> America

you like the unuseful/simplistic sweep. an unclear historical line that passes through those three as well as many more. also, you think they named a character gaius and made sure it was a man w/ an english accent playing him as a nod to the connection between the roman empire and british empire

when you watch a shot of two people talking in a room do you wonder WHO ELSE IS IN THE ROOM WITH THEM filming the scene?!? whoah - mindblowing!

yes, that's the same

get one Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, or Cicero, or jesus any history book.

nice try, btw

you like the unuseful/simplistic sweep.

seems pretty useful to me in that it helps explain some of Baltar's unique characteristics, among other things.

you think they named a character gaius and made sure it was a man w/ an english accent playing him as a nod to the connection between the roman empire and british empire

I like the ext. shots, with the crash zoom with a little bit of pan & tilt to focus on the action. For me, it helps with immersion & reality(if you will), like there's actually a dude operating a camera filming real ships blasting at each other.

rjg have you read Ulysses.

I know someone who has