Camille Paglia: Dud or Dudder ?

So how many symbolic ends of the sexual revolution have we had so far? Does the number have five digits or six?

in her defense, i really did enjoy reading/struggling with/tearing my hair out over sexual personae like 20 years ago

never get the impression that gaga intends to be sexy, but rather sex-like, in the way that pop celebrity is always sex-like, a strained parody.

lol totally. btw this sentence is more insightful than all of the sentences in Cam's piece.

lotta concern for the "symbolic end" from a woman who hates hates hates the "pomo" academy, pissing and moaning about it's lack of good old hardness of mind, meanwhile numbers on young sexual behavior have been changing dramatically between oh 1970 and now oh fuck me in the ear why am i writing

goole has restarted the sexual revolution by being fucked in the ear

bad bromance

if you want a good laugh go look up the old salon column where professor camille sounds off on the subject of PUNK ROCK. i was halfway through a scathing reply before i realized the article was over two years old.
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, October 7, 2003 7:46 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark

I would like to read this article, but I don't think I found it on Salon.com.

I think Paglia's angry that Gaga has eclipsed her beloved Madonna in the relevancy sweepstakes.

rudely worn during interviews!

lol the same way noel gallagher swept paul mccartney in the relevancy sweepstakes in 96

or taylor swift has swept lisa loeb in the relevancy sweepstakes

or taylor swift has swept lisa loeb in the relevancy sweepstakes

missing the point that for gaga, the rather inhuman machinery of celebrity is both playground and subject. never get the impression that gaga intends to be sexy, but rather sex-like, in the way that pop celebrity is always sex-like, a strained parody. agree with CP's observations, but not with what she makes of them.

Yeah, this. I'm surprised how often people point out how unsexy Lady Gaga is, as if they're the first to notice, when her unsexiness seems to be part of the point of her. If you want to be sexy you don't dance around in that horrid old underwear she wears in Alejandro or put on the drag queen make-up she has in the Telephone video, a lot of what she wears seems purposely designed to look unflattering. It's definitely more of a parody than a sincere attempt at being sexy and it's a bit odd how people look at her and think "failed sexiness" rather than wondering if a female pop singer might have other aims.

Other aims, like entertaining people?

making crutches sexy

I don't know if this is challops or what but I think Lady Gaga is sexy as hell.

Some old women find cats sexy.

Paglia votes Green: http://www.salon.com/2012/10/10/camille_paglias_glittering_images/

(she proclaims “Star Wars” creator George Lucas our greatest living artist)

But I think that Mitt Romney is a moderate — like Nelson Rockefeller, who as governor of New York poured money into the state university system that educated me. Romney is an affable, successful businessman whose skills seem well-suited to this particular moment of economic crisis. Hence I want to use my vote to make a statement about my unhappiness with the Democratic Party and the direction it has taken. The biggest issue for me is the Obama administration’s continuation of endless war, war, war. I denounced the Iraq incursion before it even happened.

My third reason for going Green is the creeping totalitarianism of Obamacare, which Jill Stein as a physician is rightly skeptical about. I began denouncing the Obamacare bill in my Salon column within two months after Obama’s inauguration. And I was also criticizing the President’s imprisonment within an insular circle of advisors who were not of sufficient quality and experience as administrators or strategists to sustain his presidency. If Democrats and their cohorts in the mainstream media had listened to me and begun criticizing the administration early on, there would have been ample time for a course correction and Obama would now be sailing into reelection.

she is so dumb

only nixon could go to china

afghanistan is the grave of empire

and other historical observations by camille paglia

obamacare is creeping totalitarianism and it also doesn't spend enough on new doctors and hospitals

whenever she talks about the 60s she's like a really uncharitable parody of a boomer

what is this weird "I totally complained about that BEFORE IT EVEN HAPPENED" rhetorical tack she seems so fond of

ugh, i can't believe this is the paglia thread that u guys bumped. we have such a better one!

did it include this

http://images.tcj.com/2011/12/Mbooty6-a.jpg

my preferred paglia thread:
sexual personae

"Her book is over 700 pages long!"

ah yes the Vision thread

xp

Hi!

Ms. Paglia observes this phenomenon up close with her 11-year-old son, Lucien, whom she is raising with her ex-partner, Alison Maddex, an artist and public-school teacher who lives 2 miles away. She sees the tacit elevation of "female values"—such as sensitivity, socialization and cooperation—as the main aim of teachers, rather than fostering creative energy and teaching hard geographical and historical facts.

By her lights, things only get worse in higher education. "This PC gender politics thing—the way gender is being taught in the universities—in a very anti-male way, it's all about neutralization of maleness." The result: Upper-middle-class men who are "intimidated" and "can't say anything. . . . They understand the agenda." In other words: They avoid goring certain sacred cows by "never telling the truth to women" about sex, and by keeping "raunchy" thoughts and sexual fantasies to themselves and their laptops.

Politically correct, inadequate education, along with the decline of America's brawny industrial base, leaves many men with "no models of manhood," she says. "Masculinity is just becoming something that is imitated from the movies. There's nothing left. There's no room for anything manly right now." The only place you can hear what men really feel these days, she claims, is on sports radio. No surprise, she is an avid listener. The energy and enthusiasm "inspires me as a writer," she says, adding: "If we had to go to war," the callers "are the men that would save the nation."

And men aren't the only ones suffering from the decline of men. Women, particularly elite upper-middle-class women, have become "clones" condemned to "Pilates for the next 30 years," Ms. Paglia says. "Our culture doesn't allow women to know how to be womanly," adding that online pornography is increasingly the only place where men and women in our sexless culture tap into "primal energy" in a way they can't in real life.

She's got to stop reading Momus' old clickopera blog.

i hate to go there (really) but, if you're so twisted up about disappearing masculinity, why did you name your kid 'lucien'

every paragraph is funnier than the last

http://time.com/72546/drinking-age-alcohol-repeal/

both dionysus and PCP are referenced

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/28/camille_paglia_how_bill_clinton_is_like_bill_cosby/

It’s a very sophisticated style among the French, and generally in Europe, where the heads of state tend to have mistresses on the side. So what? That doesn’t bother me at all! But the point is, they are sophisticated affairs that the European politicians have,

lol waht

she's such a buffoon

DSK raping a hotel maid, Berlusconi banging underage prostitutes, so sophisticated

otoh "I’m not talking in terms of the men’s rights movement, which got infected by p.c." is pretty A+ zing

I don't even know what that means tbh

MRA guys are generally virulently anti-pc, aren't they?

nah, they are always adopting tumblr pc lingo (which turns out to be very malleable for whatever u need)

you'll forgive me for staring at the URL a little while longer

i find that she's always on the right side of the line between tedious and hilarious

are you serious

there needn't be a comparator. anyone to the left of joe lieberman can look at his record and find it wanting

the democratic party is moving left

still don't see it, email Senate leader Chuck Schumer about it next term

where the hell are Hil's female lovers, that's what me n' Camille wanna know

there needn't be a comparator. anyone to the left of joe lieberman can look at his record and find it wanting

well, yeah

but someone [who is not ralph nader] has to be president. maybe we need a poll

oh you're one of those

lol

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/227359/camille-paglia-jews-and-feminism

apparently paglia voted for sanders in the primaries and stein in the general

thought I was losing my mind. there's more than one thread on her that got updated today. WHY
also BRING BACK SEARCH?

Camille Paglia

So, good for the Jews. xp

As for Trump and his oafishly loose words, liberal Democratic women have been in serious mauvaise foi in their ceaseless attacks on him, given the sycophantish pass they gave to the serial sexist behavior and concrete sexual exploitation and abuse of Bill Clinton (for whom I voted twice). The unwillingness of so many middle-class feminists to hold Hillary Clinton responsible for her cold and demeaning treatment of her husband’s working-class accusers seems inexplicable to me.

Apparently she didn't get the Always Believe the Woman EXCEPT for...memo.

DUUUUUUUUD!

Camille Paglia's Profiles in Cocaine continues with saying Sinéad O'Connor deserved to be abused as a child pic.twitter.com/vLlqVsrOe0

— cris (@ilchinealach) June 29, 2023

(just posted same clip in the Sinead thread, but figured it is worth emphasizing here)

vile human being

paglia was and remains an idiot