Isn't the first pic Liam Gallagher in 5 years minutes from now?
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Sunday, 19 September 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link
haha, I have spent all the time since this poll was posted looking at that trying to work out if it's Liam Gallagher or not.
― ailsa, Sunday, 19 September 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, Liam Gallagher rocking the haircut favoured by Media Studies lecturers in FE and guys who hang around the bar at Northern Soul nights.
― Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Ideally the model Punk guy would have a septum piercing and a copy of Socialist Worker under his arm but I was working on a US hegemonic search engine.
― Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link
thread collision!
He would occasionally drop in on my mod band
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/jan/05/popandrock
― former moderator, please give generously (DG), Sunday, 19 September 2010 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Harris looks like he could teach BTEC National Diploma Music in his sleep.
― Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link
the lazy punk aesthetic refuses to die in u.s., too. people here are too dumb and uncouth to do the mod thing, though
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Don't they have Ben Sherman shirts in America?
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Sunday, 19 September 2010 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyway these are both despicable obv but I thought we shd have a change from "who's the worst?"
― Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link
older punx in the u.s. would probably be a little more grungey gutter punk usually...u.k. always had a certain element to punk that felt like everyone was dressing up for halloween
older mod dudez can look kinda cool IMO but i'm so removed from it maybe it's annoying in the u.k. if you actually see it.
mods are kinda like unicorns to me, like i'm just kinda blown away to actually see one on the rare occaission that i do
― rawkan the chief (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 19 September 2010 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link
surely mod dudes are worse via smug aura from having 'won' (in their view) popular culture?
― former moderator, please give generously (DG), Sunday, 19 September 2010 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Older UK punks are grubbier than the guy in the pic too, it was just the first usable GIS I came across.
I think the Mod guys might well be worse, and it is down to how they carry themselves mostly yes.
― Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, there are ben sherman shirts in america. i have seen them on s. people who fetishize mod stuff and b. racist skinhead types
i see both varieties everyday. nomadic homeless crusty punks panhandling, and halloween sorts with the haircuts, black leather, spikes, swimming in tattoos, etc.
there are more mods on the west coast, i think? i'm sure there are tons of u.s.-based scooter clubs on facebook
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link
freudian slip-- "s" for suggest, "b" ban
those being my favorite brands of underarm deodorant
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link
You occasionally see the ageing mod who hasn't changed his outfit in thirty years (and, even better, the officially old original mod who hasn't changed his in fifty, although those dudes are probably a bit crazy), but I don't know that I've ever seen a 50-year-old guy decked out in the full Richard Hell kit. So I side with the punks. Or the mods. Someone give me some criteria to work with.
― Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 19 September 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Wd you rather hang with dude who won't shut up about Paul Weller or won't shut up about Steve Ignorant? Me I'm siding with the latter.
― Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link
but I don't know that I've ever seen a 50-year-old guy decked out in the full Richard Hell kit.
i see this in u.s.
in america i would rather hang out with hypothetical mod dude. in u.k, i'd probably go the other way.
it is funny how mod subculture never took off here. too much cowboy values, suspicion of all things fancy, european, i guess?
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
there was a lil scene in early 80s california, along with ppl into 2tone + uk ska.
― max arrrrrgh, Sunday, 19 September 2010 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i mean there were mod bands from cleveland during that period, but it never really took off in america. like, grand funk railroad never went through a mod phase.
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I am tangentially acquainted with a bunch of aging mod types in Chicago. They seem to always have good w33d. Also pretty heavy anglophiles iirc.
― dan m, Sunday, 19 September 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link
midwest cognoscenti holler
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link
old punk people always seem super cute to me, especially if they have spikes, backpatches, the whole nine. especially especially if they are pushing strollers and drinking coffee in the early morning. i always want to say "wow you are so perfect and cute" and take them home (in miniature form) and put them on a shelf so i can admire them periodically.
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link
ugh i hate those people
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link
where i live those ppl turn out to be foaming-at-the-mouth racists, without exception
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link
oh
:(
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't talk to them, so my admiration remains unmarred
so so many in portland
they probably are awesome. i'm just severely prejudiced
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I think they shd let go.
― Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Aging goths are the best. The people who made "Carpe Noctem" magazine lived in my hometown for a while...their kid was three or so years younger than me but we went to the same high school. He had dyed his hair purple and when people asked why he said, "Because my mom made me." And you got the feeling it was in some way partly true.
― Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Aging seems to suit the goth aesthetic better, plus goths seem to naturally gravitate toward domestic bliss. It's a reasonably gender-mixed subculture.
The dudes I'm thinking of give off much more of a "last cowboy in town" vibe. Even tho there's fucking loads of them.
― Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
haha, noodle vague i admire your armchair anthropological spec
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link
think you are "OTM"
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Pro tip: 5 minute walks to the shops can provide useful material for ILX threads
― Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link
nothing to do with you, but, i wake up sometimes at five am with "useful material for ilx threads" thank goodness i forget it all when morning light comes 'round
five minute walks to shops = me being too distracted looking at butts to be engaged in lofty ilx material
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link
and i live near an art school so probably my leering is technically illegal or something
see this does all sound like classic thread material
― Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
at the very least epitomizes male ilxors' experience in any part of the world, i'm thinking
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link
There was also a great lady in her 50s in my hometown who ran a headshop that also sold "goth accessories." Smoker's croak, still eyeliner doodles on her wrinkled face. She only liked two bands, though, Alice Cooper and Cradle of Filth. Half the stuff she sold was band merchandise, but only of those two bands, and then just drug stuff and Slave Labor Graphics comics and glitter. I think more stores should be run like this.
― Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link
ha, wow. true lol
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
love that story/lady abbott (bt)
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
The first Saturday of every month she had a "dark convergence" of everyone having coffee at the truck stop.
― Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link
i want to go to there
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
but hey wait, i dunno about this. relative to west coast US, doesn't sync. cuz punks here is gender mixed and also domestically inclined, with the marrying and baby-making, etc. moreso than goths, who often seem to exist in semi-isolation, only ever seen out shopping with their moms, etc.
one time in college i was at this denny's and these dudes were sitting in a booth trying to write dark-themed speed metal lyrics
it was an eye-opener of sorts for twenty year-old me
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link
what rhymes with "cadaver"? *grabs french fry*
― dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
palaver?
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
aging goths just look like barbara cartland
― former moderator, please give generously (DG), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Filthy corpseRotting cadaverNecrotic fleshWhat a palaver
― jesper olsen twins (NickB), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Living in the aging mod capital of the universe, I voting punx on this one.
― jesper olsen twins (NickB), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx343/Mount_Analogue/oldmod.jpg
― jesper olsen twins (NickB), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link
There's a 70-something year old guy who I sometimes see waiting at the bus stop who looks like he might have been an original 1960s mod. Although maybe I'm just assuming that on the basis of him wearing a matching waistcoat with his suit.
― well the bitter comes out better on a stolen Switch cartridge (snoball), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 20:52 (seven years ago) link
xp. pal of mine moved to manchester and a couple of years later got one of those haircuts. i asked him if it he asked especially or is this just something they do there when you ask for a short back and sides but he was a little cagey and opaque with his response
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 20:53 (seven years ago) link
pretty sure it's some sort of barbers' conspiracy to perpetuate this whole culture, there's surely a place in every town that's got its black & white photos of steve mcqueen and its table full of shite men's magazines and some wizened old git behind the chair in his button-down shirt and his harrington just waiting to give you the best rick witter of yer life
― Benylin Ascent (NickB), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:11 (seven years ago) link
there are a million of these places in brighton, but i think this is my local favourite:
https://s28.postimg.org/q0ig2e2fh/20151108_111934.jpg
― Benylin Ascent (NickB), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link
it is just called 'hair' btw afaicmo
― Benylin Ascent (NickB), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link
disliked the red white and blue decal ever since i first laid eyes on it (= making airfix planes as a nipper, long before i heard of the who) and still do
not sure why: tho it occurs to me my mild trypophobia can't help
(i also always disliked the union jack, colours and design, long before politics came into it)
― mark s, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 22:24 (seven years ago) link
https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/3372/33720982_sa.jpg;maxHeight=550;maxWidth=642
― soref, Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:01 (six years ago) link
ha! A+ work there Soref. I heard Freeman talking about this project and was wondering about what kind of fucking numpt still self-identifies as a Mod whilst going into their late 40's.
― calzino, Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:04 (six years ago) link
Late 40s? Pretty young for a mod.
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:10 (six years ago) link
Some of the ageing Mod people I used to see at football matches often look even more tragic, but with added menace. Anyway another day of Modding about in a Fred Perry top.. hey! what do you mean scruffy balding twats can't be mods!
― calzino, Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:12 (six years ago) link
i should have called this thread "millions now living will never get their hair cut"
― vermicious kid (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:13 (six years ago) link
I wonder who would buy that record.
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:17 (six years ago) link
I thought that was Will Self for a minute
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:18 (six years ago) link
Sir Bradley Wiggins might buy that album, and then complain about the music not sounding like Weller.
― calzino, Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:20 (six years ago) link
(xps) Martin Freeman stars in the movie to launch the Jerry Anderson Cinematic Universe: 'Joe 90'...
― 2018 has to be better (snoball), Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:22 (six years ago) link
In late 2010, Piller began to host a regular podcast called "The Modcast". This monthly podcast is co-hosted with Acid Jazz Records A&R man Dean Rudland, and features discussions about "all things Mod and beyond" including the influence of mod subculture on fashion, television and sport with guests such as musicians Steve Cradock, P.P. Arnold and Rhoda Dakar, the actor Martin Freeman and Olympic medal winning cyclist Sir Bradley Wiggins.
― calzino, Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:28 (six years ago) link
Sir Modley Wiggins.
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:28 (six years ago) link
Sir Cheatley Druggins morelike innit?
― calzino, Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:29 (six years ago) link
i don't mind so much when they're into the soulier more intersting end of the sound rather than dadrock but still could these Faces be any more Po?
― vermicious kid (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:32 (six years ago) link
I wouldn't doubt there might be some decent tunes on there. But I have much more respect for Bronies than these absurd fools.
― calzino, Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:39 (six years ago) link
I confess I do like mod clothes though!
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:44 (six years ago) link
I'm sure lots of good clothes could be deemed "Mod". But the whole po-faced package as presented here is bad!
― calzino, Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:52 (six years ago) link
Ever get the feeling you've been cheated...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMozUI76zvk
― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link
Paul Weller’s Birthday.The thing I admire about him most is how he keeps reinventing himself a bit like that there Madonna.#paulweller pic.twitter.com/RBlWvYgJ1m— Keri Warbis (@KeriWarbis) May 25, 2019
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link
I can't wait to see him wearing cones on his tits.
― calzino, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
― mark s, Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:24 PM (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
full disclosure on this ^^^preening and pious post: making airfix planes as a nipper i *did* rather like the iron cross so
http://images.auctionhelper.com/images/10343/Freightdog%20Decals/PGS72004.jpg
― mark s, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link
a timely revival as I'm going to see the Varukers on their 40th anniversary tour tonight
that bloke off the Legal & General ad is from a band called the Phobics (who I don't know) but has also been singing for the Snivelling Shits recently (who I do know)
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link
rip giovanni dadomo
― mark s, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link
What about us dudes that are just plain old aging?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 25 May 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link
Bradley Wiggins’ “My Culture Fix” in The Times did not go well. pic.twitter.com/lokEXqsENy— Neil Forsyth (@mrneilforsyth) May 25, 2019
― mark s, Saturday, 25 May 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link
I never quite nailed what i wanted on the initial blurb here, really it just needed to be a "subcultures preserved in aspic and why?" kinda title
― specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 May 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link
finds television "quite vacuous" apart from First Dates, which sounds like some good middlebrow action for a leg-pumping fool on a push iron.
― calzino, Saturday, 25 May 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
yes sorry NV i was being quote lazy appending that tweet here
― mark s, Saturday, 25 May 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link
No the Wiggins is closer to one of my initial impulses, it made me realise this was done better in the OG interior life of Nole Gallagher thread, of which that Wiggins piece is the vertiginous real life counterpart
― specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 May 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link
I have a lot of love for many aging goths
― brimstead, Saturday, 25 May 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
People as individuals are always better than our straw figures of them but it's interesting how some people seem to want to externalize their affiliations more than others. And like 90 percent of threads this started off as self-psychoanalysis as much as anything.
― specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 May 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
Yeah I feel ya, I think I’m just sort of envious of people entrenched in subcultures like that*.. it sucks when a perfect vintage look is ruined by pulling outta cellphone.*no doubt a romanticized vision of belonging... still love fashion and things
― brimstead, Saturday, 25 May 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link
https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02554/Alan-Johnson_2554079b.jpg
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 08:22 (four years ago) link
he recently said on the wireless it was his bestselling coming of age memoir that was his greatest legacy, he really underrates himself as a style icon though.
― calzino, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 08:36 (four years ago) link
Still got his hair so it would be hilarious if he went for the Weller cut - but then he's an original mod and not a saddo Jam fan so unlikely.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 08:45 (four years ago) link
70 yr old bloke with a Wellender is a pretty classy look, lol he's only 8 years older than Weller so should go for it.
― calzino, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 09:05 (four years ago) link
Who is this person?
Also:
Aging Mick Jones Actually Lost In Supermarket
LONDON — Mick Jones, founding member and former guitarist/singer for the classic punk band the Clash, grew confused yesterday while shopping at a Tesco supermarket and could not decide if he should stick around or head for the exit, market security confirmed.“I almost called for help — this old codger kept pacing, mumbling that he ‘came in here for the special offer.’ His cart was filled with coupons for tea, though, so I figured he knew what he was doing,” said Tesco produce and fish-and-chips specialist Jennifer Bronson. “I see a lot of geezers like him come in and wander the aisles aimlessly. Normally, it’s not a big deal — it gets them out of the house. But he was spooked by all the people coming up and taking pictures of him.”
“I almost called for help — this old codger kept pacing, mumbling that he ‘came in here for the special offer.’ His cart was filled with coupons for tea, though, so I figured he knew what he was doing,” said Tesco produce and fish-and-chips specialist Jennifer Bronson. “I see a lot of geezers like him come in and wander the aisles aimlessly. Normally, it’s not a big deal — it gets them out of the house. But he was spooked by all the people coming up and taking pictures of him.”
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link
former postman + home secretary and self styled ace-face, the most august Alan Johnson - he's basically a total dickhead.
― calzino, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 10:23 (four years ago) link
(xp) Funnily enough, one of the few times, after I first moved to London, when I was excited to see a celebrity in the flesh was when I saw Mick Jones in an M&S Food shop and, I must admit, I did kinda follow him around for a few minutes.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 10:39 (four years ago) link
When me and my girl were at the Velvet Underground gig, we were trying to get ice lollies out of the vending machines at the back of the hall. We succeeded, and turned back to watch the band, and right there was Mick Jones and some of his friends. Man, he was thin!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQqG8em2Qss
― Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:26 (ten months ago) link
There's a guy in his 40s who's regularly on my bus to and from work who convincingly wears the Ben Sherman shirt / jeans / work boots / parka combo. I think a lot of that is because he has a buzzcut rather than a Wellend or similar hairstyle. Although today he was wearing a Liam bucket hat, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that this was entirely for practically as it was very sunny and hot today. And I could hardly criticise his choice of headgear as I was wearing what my work colleagues refer to as a 'fishing hat' ie a repeatedly folded/crumpled up and sweated through khaki number from M&S.
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:35 (ten months ago) link
practicality
aging goths >= aging punks > > > > > aging mods (throw them in the Thames)
― brimstead, Friday, 9 June 2023 20:04 (ten months ago) link