T/S: Aging Mod Dudes vs Aging Punk Dudes

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i don't talk to them, so my admiration remains unmarred

so so many in portland

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

they probably are awesome. i'm just severely prejudiced

dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I think they shd let go.

Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Aging goths are the best. The people who made "Carpe Noctem" magazine lived in my hometown for a while...their kid was three or so years younger than me but we went to the same high school. He had dyed his hair purple and when people asked why he said, "Because my mom made me." And you got the feeling it was in some way partly true.

Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Aging seems to suit the goth aesthetic better, plus goths seem to naturally gravitate toward domestic bliss. It's a reasonably gender-mixed subculture.

The dudes I'm thinking of give off much more of a "last cowboy in town" vibe. Even tho there's fucking loads of them.

Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

haha, noodle vague i admire your armchair anthropological spec

dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

think you are "OTM"

dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Pro tip: 5 minute walks to the shops can provide useful material for ILX threads

Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

nothing to do with you, but, i wake up sometimes at five am with "useful material for ilx threads" thank goodness i forget it all when morning light comes 'round

five minute walks to shops = me being too distracted looking at butts to be engaged in lofty ilx material

dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

and i live near an art school so probably my leering is technically illegal or something

dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

see this does all sound like classic thread material

Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

at the very least epitomizes male ilxors' experience in any part of the world, i'm thinking

dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

There was also a great lady in her 50s in my hometown who ran a headshop that also sold "goth accessories." Smoker's croak, still eyeliner doodles on her wrinkled face. She only liked two bands, though, Alice Cooper and Cradle of Filth. Half the stuff she sold was band merchandise, but only of those two bands, and then just drug stuff and Slave Labor Graphics comics and glitter. I think more stores should be run like this.

Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

ha, wow. true lol

dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

love that story/lady abbott (bt)

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

The first Saturday of every month she had a "dark convergence" of everyone having coffee at the truck stop.

Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i want to go to there

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Aging seems to suit the goth aesthetic better, plus goths seem to naturally gravitate toward domestic bliss. It's a reasonably gender-mixed subculture.

but hey wait, i dunno about this. relative to west coast US, doesn't sync. cuz punks here is gender mixed and also domestically inclined, with the marrying and baby-making, etc. moreso than goths, who often seem to exist in semi-isolation, only ever seen out shopping with their moms, etc.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

one time in college i was at this denny's and these dudes were sitting in a booth trying to write dark-themed speed metal lyrics

it was an eye-opener of sorts for twenty year-old me

dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

what rhymes with "cadaver"? *grabs french fry*

dude (del), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

palaver?

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

aging goths just look like barbara cartland

former moderator, please give generously (DG), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Filthy corpse
Rotting cadaver
Necrotic flesh
What a palaver

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Living in the aging mod capital of the universe, I voting punx on this one.

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't mind the full-on Quadrophenia theme party look so much as the Liam Gallagher/John Harris haircut discussed upthread. I think I have a bunch of mates who are basically aging mods/Northern Soul dudes but in a tasteful way maybe?

Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Shd've maybe worked in "dudes who look like they wanna be Ian Brown or Richard Ashcroft" somehow.

Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

aging punk dudes are a lot less douchey, in my experience.

Honey, I squirted jizz all over the baby (the table is the table), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Just noticed that feller's WHITE JEANS gah!

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

i wear ben sherman ;_;

hypnopriapism (electricsound), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

ben sherman shirts are pretty nice i don't have any but they are just like regular collar shirst what's the fuss abt?

who's got the (platform) 9 3/4ths? (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

anyway i vote aging mods, except for the saddoes still trying to pick up young mod chix

hypnopriapism (electricsound), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.pennyblackmusic.co.uk/PictureGallery/6454.jpg

graham day is my favourite aging mod

hypnopriapism (electricsound), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

graham day is my favourite aging mod

Graham Day is my fave aging musician period

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 30 September 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Mods of any age, obv. Ben Shermans seem like more of a skin thing, tho. Aging skinheads shd be separate entry although maybe the aging mod look is sort of the skinhead retirement plan.

I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Thursday, 30 September 2010 01:22 (thirteen years ago) link

It's either that or rockabilly ime.

I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Thursday, 30 September 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Ben Sherman's are available at like Macys or Nordstroms or something. I imagine that tghey are worn by guys who hang out in bars.

There was a mod who worked at Domino's Pizza with me back in 98 or whatever. He had one of those re, white, and blue target stickers on the back of his car. He was a total snob about ska and I couldn't have a convo with him about even the Toasters or the Pietasters or anything.

Anyway, as far as the aging thing, punx all the way.

haircrüt 100 (kkvgz), Thursday, 30 September 2010 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe it's a regional thing, most of the aging mods in melb are pretty nice peeps. don't really know any aging punx tho tbh

hypnopriapism (electricsound), Thursday, 30 September 2010 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Mod clothes are fine, no matter what age you are, but the haircuts are indefensible

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 September 2010 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link

... for a 45 year old man especially

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 September 2010 11:07 (thirteen years ago) link

could be worse, could be a 43 year old indie kid

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/Tim_Burgess_290x300.jpg

hypnopriapism (electricsound), Thursday, 30 September 2010 11:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I know older ones than that!

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 September 2010 11:09 (thirteen years ago) link

with that hair??

hypnopriapism (electricsound), Thursday, 30 September 2010 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Mod clothes are fine, no matter what age you are, but the haircuts are indefensible

― Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 September 2010 11:04 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

think this gets it...

Mark G, Thursday, 30 September 2010 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link

i am actually jealous of mr burgess' hair but i would NOT wear it like that

hypnopriapism (electricsound), Thursday, 30 September 2010 11:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I certainly would lay off the hair dye a bit too

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 September 2010 11:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Older punk dudes are usually quite endearing, mods are insufferable regardless of age.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 September 2010 11:12 (thirteen years ago) link

See, the whole "mod" look is something I could 'carry off' but it's nothing I want.. (no desire to own a scooter, parkas were always a red herring, and it was always about looking good at age 20, not looking "mod" at age 50).

xpost I have good hair (i.e. I have (non-grey) hair)

bloody hell, this thread is xpost city!

Mark G, Thursday, 30 September 2010 11:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Mod clothes are fine, no matter what age you are, but the haircuts are indefensible

Kinda sums up my inspiration for starting this really ^^^

dociah t. azzahole (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 September 2010 11:13 (thirteen years ago) link

disliked the red white and blue decal ever since i first laid eyes on it (= making airfix planes as a nipper, long before i heard of the who) and still do

not sure why: tho it occurs to me my mild trypophobia can't help

(i also always disliked the union jack, colours and design, long before politics came into it)

― mark s, Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:24 PM (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

full disclosure on this ^^^preening and pious post: making airfix planes as a nipper i *did* rather like the iron cross so

http://images.auctionhelper.com/images/10343/Freightdog%20Decals/PGS72004.jpg

mark s, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

a timely revival as I'm going to see the Varukers on their 40th anniversary tour tonight

that bloke off the Legal & General ad is from a band called the Phobics (who I don't know) but has also been singing for the Snivelling Shits recently (who I do know)

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link

rip giovanni dadomo

mark s, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link

What about us dudes that are just plain old aging?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 25 May 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link

Bradley Wiggins’ “My Culture Fix” in The Times did not go well. pic.twitter.com/lokEXqsENy

— Neil Forsyth (@mrneilforsyth) May 25, 2019

mark s, Saturday, 25 May 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

I never quite nailed what i wanted on the initial blurb here, really it just needed to be a "subcultures preserved in aspic and why?" kinda title

specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 May 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

finds television "quite vacuous" apart from First Dates, which sounds like some good middlebrow action for a leg-pumping fool on a push iron.

calzino, Saturday, 25 May 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

yes sorry NV i was being quote lazy appending that tweet here

mark s, Saturday, 25 May 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link

No the Wiggins is closer to one of my initial impulses, it made me realise this was done better in the OG interior life of Nole Gallagher thread, of which that Wiggins piece is the vertiginous real life counterpart

specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 May 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link

I have a lot of love for many aging goths

brimstead, Saturday, 25 May 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

People as individuals are always better than our straw figures of them but it's interesting how some people seem to want to externalize their affiliations more than others. And like 90 percent of threads this started off as self-psychoanalysis as much as anything.

specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 May 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

Yeah I feel ya, I think I’m just sort of envious of people entrenched in subcultures like that*.. it sucks when a perfect vintage look is ruined by pulling outta cellphone.

*no doubt a romanticized vision of belonging... still love fashion and things

brimstead, Saturday, 25 May 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

he recently said on the wireless it was his bestselling coming of age memoir that was his greatest legacy, he really underrates himself as a style icon though.

calzino, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 08:36 (four years ago) link

Still got his hair so it would be hilarious if he went for the Weller cut - but then he's an original mod and not a saddo Jam fan so unlikely.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 08:45 (four years ago) link

70 yr old bloke with a Wellender is a pretty classy look, lol he's only 8 years older than Weller so should go for it.

calzino, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 09:05 (four years ago) link

Who is this person?

Also:

Aging Mick Jones Actually Lost In Supermarket

LONDON — Mick Jones, founding member and former guitarist/singer for the classic punk band the Clash, grew confused yesterday while shopping at a Tesco supermarket and could not decide if he should stick around or head for the exit, market security confirmed.

“I almost called for help — this old codger kept pacing, mumbling that he ‘came in here for the special offer.’ His cart was filled with coupons for tea, though, so I figured he knew what he was doing,” said Tesco produce and fish-and-chips specialist Jennifer Bronson. “I see a lot of geezers like him come in and wander the aisles aimlessly. Normally, it’s not a big deal — it gets them out of the house. But he was spooked by all the people coming up and taking pictures of him.”

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link

former postman + home secretary and self styled ace-face, the most august Alan Johnson - he's basically a total dickhead.

calzino, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 10:23 (four years ago) link

(xp) Funnily enough, one of the few times, after I first moved to London, when I was excited to see a celebrity in the flesh was when I saw Mick Jones in an M&S Food shop and, I must admit, I did kinda follow him around for a few minutes.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 10:39 (four years ago) link

When me and my girl were at the Velvet Underground gig, we were trying to get ice lollies out of the vending machines at the back of the hall. We succeeded, and turned back to watch the band, and right there was Mick Jones and some of his friends. Man, he was thin!

Mark G, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

There's a guy in his 40s who's regularly on my bus to and from work who convincingly wears the Ben Sherman shirt / jeans / work boots / parka combo. I think a lot of that is because he has a buzzcut rather than a Wellend or similar hairstyle. Although today he was wearing a Liam bucket hat, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that this was entirely for practically as it was very sunny and hot today. And I could hardly criticise his choice of headgear as I was wearing what my work colleagues refer to as a 'fishing hat' ie a repeatedly folded/crumpled up and sweated through khaki number from M&S.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:35 (ten months ago) link

practicality

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:35 (ten months ago) link

aging goths >= aging punks > > > > > aging mods (throw them in the Thames)

brimstead, Friday, 9 June 2023 20:04 (ten months ago) link


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