FUGITIVE
― :) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Thursday, 20 November 2008 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Shakey, he's done bad stuff but yr nuts.
Lonesome Dove
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 November 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Haven't seen 90% of these. He's great in Coal Miner's Daughter but gets to snuff it on the moon in Space Cowboys, so it's a tossup.
Boy, Ollie Stone can sure bring out the scenery-eating side of Jones, can't he?
― Law-Thug for Chiquita Bananas (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 20 November 2008 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link
lol he was in the "Charlie's Angels" pilot
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 November 2008 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link
MiB
― a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 20 November 2008 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Jessica Lange got the Oscar, but he's terrific in Blue Sky.
Voted for Clay Shaw and his gladiator helmet and gold body paint .
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 November 2008 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Kinda amazing that in the years right before and shortly after winning the Oscar he made 47 movies.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 November 2008 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link
fuk u shakey
― ಥ﹏ಥ (cankles), Thursday, 20 November 2008 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm so glad I've forgotten so much of JFK.
I need to RESEE his Daffy Duck warden in NBK tho.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 November 2008 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link
my dad still talks about Jones as Howard Hughes (I've never seen it).
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 November 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link
TS:
http://www.jfk-online.com/100party.jpg vs. http://images.allmoviephoto.com/1995_Batman_Forever/tommy_lee_jones_batman_forever_001.jpg
― Law-Thug for Chiquita Bananas (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 20 November 2008 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Morbs, did you like NBK? It's pretty high on my favorite movies list.
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 November 2008 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link
hi dere, Dan!
http://www.jfk-online.com/jones.jpg
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 November 2008 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link
NBK is great but Jones doesn't really add anything to it
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link
(apart from the scene with his head on a stick, that is)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
RDJ did outdo him, I agree.
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
NBK is not great but I liked it and the actors.
(more Tarantino scripts shd be taken out of his hands)
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link
RDJs aussie accent = good times
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
what the hell shakey this guy is great
v tempted to vote MiB
― goole, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Madness. It's the most entertaining movie of all time.
― Eric H., Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link
On a related note, though, I completely forgot he was in Altman's last.
― Eric H., Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link
we need gear in here
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link
i like him ok, but he/his characters can be tiresome. it's interesting/annoying how he can go through such a range of emotion - histrionic to laconic - while maintaining the same taut stoneface and physical reserve. is that good or bad acting?
― gabbneb, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Eric, again with yr ambiguous standard of "entertaining."
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah me too, don't recall that at all!
In general I think maybe my distaste for him stems from a lot of his worst movies being in constant rotation on cable - the Fugitive, US Marshals, MiB, etc. and so that's mostly what I've seen. They're these irritatingly interchangeable "I am a deadpan hardass cop with a southern accent" roles that bore me to tears. This is put to good use in NCFOM but he was hardly my favorite thing about that movie (now that I think about it he was probably the most predictable and boring casting choice made). He's awful in that Batman movie. Entertaining in JFK but that's a bit part.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
― :) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:40 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
no other Woodrow Call fans?
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/nationalgeographictre/sp/ld3.jpg
one vote for his beard in Lonesome Dove
― flyover statesman (will), Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link
x-post!
Under Siege
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Criticizing him for playing the same part in "The Fugitive" and "US Marshalls" when he is, in literal point of fact, PLAYING THE SAME PART, strikes me as being kind of stupid.
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link
I gave it to The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada since he directed it too and I adored it so. Absolutely Peckinpah-worthy. But there are many fine performances amongst the latter ten or so titles (even, I suppose, in that VERY well-loved film that I loathe with a purple passion but will say no more about).
The Betsy - Ha! I was a Harold Robbins freak at an alarmingly young age and wanted to see this for the longest time. Now I doubt I could sit through it. Anyone see it?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I saw it about 10 years ago. wow at Olivier/Katherine Ross bedroom scene (and Olivier Midwest accent). but i don't remember a thing about TLJ in it.
memo to self: remove blockbuster hits from next poll
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Is it any good? Even in a you can have friends over and giggle at its badness kind of way?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Why don't we drop this poll...it's one thing to engage in badinage with these youngsters, but this sort of thing could be so easily misunderstood.
― omar little, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link
xp: It's terrible, but yeah, if you enjoy that sort of thing. "It's about THE GAR! THE GAR!"
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link
3 Burials vs Eyes of Laura Mars.
― DavidM, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link
The Betsy was a longtime perennial resident of the $5 DVD dump bin at Wal-Mart. I think that by now, most of those mangled unsold copies have hit the recycle bins.
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link
i haven't seen Lonesome Dove. Want to read it first.
Tempted to vote The Executioner's Song
― gabbneb, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
haha fair enough - substitute Volcano or Double Jeopardy or the Hunted or whatever for US Marshalls then. Preponderance of "I am a man with a badge tracking somebody" roles is kind of uh waht.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
xxpost I love those bins! If The Betsy moves down to $1, it's mine.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link
are you crazy? The Fugitive is a good movie!
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link
The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, it has Harrison Ford in it, xp
― gabbneb, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
the way i see it, you plug TLJ into one of those roles and you have one less thing to worry about because he's just so good at it. i think my top 5 would be the fugitive, three burials, jfk, NCFOM, and lonesome dove (which gets my vote, the dude is astonishing in that)
― omar little, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
hahaha Harrison Ford hasn't made a good movie since 1981
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link
still haven't seen it. Do he and Robert Duvall do the Jack Twist?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link
(er '82)
x-post
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link
http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/wrlds/strwrs/pr/img/orig/Episode_3_Obi-Wan_Lightsaber.jpg
― gabbneb, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link
xp
― gabbneb, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link
discrimination
― gabbneb, Monday, 1 December 2008 04:02 (fifteen years ago) link
it's a documentary, and he still 'acts'!
― gabbneb, Monday, 1 December 2008 04:06 (fifteen years ago) link
lonesome dove by miles. (i'd probably say the same for duvall.)
i like TLJ, but the thing he does can border on shtick -- which the MiB movies put to good use, and no country for old men suffers from. lonesome dove is so great, though.
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 1 December 2008 04:15 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess i really got to see lonesome dove. l like the song.
― gabbneb, Monday, 1 December 2008 04:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link
you forgot Harvard Beats Yale 29-29
He gives a worse "performance" than any of the other ex-jocks. "Ideas were flying like bullets"?
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link
that was lol
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link
He is everywhere in Japan, hawking BOSS coffee on vending machines...
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/98/269752162_728578c04d.jpg?v=0
― calstars, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link
i dunno, he did pretty well as the Hollywood actor guy
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link
He shot up a whorehouse in Rolling Thunder just because his buddy asked him.
that's why i'm voting for it. "i'll just get my gear."
― circa1916, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link
the missing is heavy and brutal and not very good, but i really liked it for some reason. it has about 45 plot turns.
― as a dude (goole), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 4 December 2008 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Got Cobb today. Thoughts?
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i remember the nyer raved at the time i think so i saw it but what i remember most is fucking robert wuhl is in it and that tommy lee jones isn't right for the part, duvall would've been better, or maybe have lawrence tierney play old cobb and ray liotta play young cobb. i'm not sure there's a great movie to be made about cobb but if you're going to do it i think you need to embrace the bastard, treat him like henry hill (maybe rogers hornsby is yr jimmy conway figure), not just a crazy coot who was racist and a little psycho but o look there's some sadness there. there's at least a dozen baseball bio pics that are better.
― balls, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
The clips I've seen of Wuhl are appalling. Apart from his one-note acting, the guy's just terrible to look at.
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I do remember a few critics sticking up for it in '94 (it was supposed to lead to a Best Actor nod).
btw the author of Cobb (ie the guy Robert Wuhl played) proved to be a big liar.
This is an encouraging opening:
"The first thing that you should know before watching Tommy Lee Jones’s The Homesman is that it operates under the fundamental assumption that everyone who took part in the settling of the American West was, by almost any contemporary standard, insane.... The second thing you should know is that this madness is not, absolutely, thought of as a bad thing in the film—that there is, in the final reckoning, even something a little defiant, a little triumphal in it. It’s an indivisible possession, a good-luck charm, a means for getting through the days without end."
http://www.reverseshot.com/reviews/entry/1933/homesman
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
the trailer for 'the homesman' sold me on it. great cast, looks suitably dark and unpredictable, and i completely trust his directorial instincts after 'melquiades estrada'.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Saturday, 15 November 2014 07:13 (nine years ago) link
You might be disappointed, who knows - I thought this was a dreadful movie tbh.
― xelab, Saturday, 15 November 2014 23:15 (nine years ago) link
compared to what? best classical western since what, Open Range?
(and hence mostly funded by Europeans)
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 December 2014 05:29 (nine years ago) link
at the end you even get Meryl Streep bringing a little edge to a Beulah Bondi role.
I thought it was a mess and wtf was that dancing about? Open Range is more like it, get those bastards that shot Tig!
― xelab, Sunday, 14 December 2014 09:22 (nine years ago) link
wtf was that dancing about?
john ford to thread
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 14 December 2014 09:53 (nine years ago) link
at the end? the man is a dancer.
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 December 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link
also shd be seen in a theater (Rodrigo Prieto)
your affection for Open Range never fails to catch me off guard.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 December 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link
it's a 3-star western but i'll take em where i can
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 December 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link
The Homesman now available for home viewing
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link
Saw The Homesman a couple of days ago, thought it was really terrific. I thought it had its own thread, but search doesn't bring it up. Anyway, one little bit that has stayed with me is how much Meryl Streep has to put across in about 3 minutes of screen time, and how well she does it. Her character has to make a judgment call on an awful lot of information flying at her with zero notice, decide how much of it is the truth and how much of it she'll accept whether she thinks it's the truth or not. It's all there in her face -- a noteworthy performance, I thought, worth getting her for a couple days' work.
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link
^this man has the right ideas
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link
I'm full of 'em.
I could have sworn this movie had its own thread.
― WilliamC, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link
I have a high tolerance for implausibility when it comes to junky thrillers--why fight it?--but Double Jeopardy is some kind of preposterous.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 03:45 (five years ago) link
i love that movie!
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 04:35 (five years ago) link
I haven't gotten to Tarantino's chapter on Rolling Thunder yet--fully expect him to go overboard--but it is good, with a very unusual, almost catatonic lead performance from William Devane (who's usually at the more florid end of the acting spectrum--and does lots of celebrity-testimonial commercials nowadays). Very proud that I recognized Paul A. Partain from The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Franklin), one of only seven films he ever made (one of only five that didn't have the word "chainsaw" in the title).
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link
I find it funny that Shakey said TLJ is "awful" and could only justify this by saying he kept getting cast as hard-assed cop characters that Shakey found boring. TLJ kept getting cast in those parts because Hollywood kept making films filled with hard-assed cops and Jones did them very well, bringing an extra touch of humanity to them that worse actors couldn't achieve.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link
xpEnjoying Tarantino’s podcast, but guy certainly (nothing new) enthuses over some undeniable crap. Rolling Thunder is legit pretty good though. Dig the vibe and performances. Remember watching a VHS rip of it a few times during my college years.
― circa1916, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link
I bought Rolling Thunder on Blu-Ray a couple of months ago and yeah, it's pretty dark and fucked up. (Written by Paul Schrader, so...surprise, dark and fucked up!) Jones and Devane are both really good.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link
(xxpost) Also, even if that is your objection, you can hardly lump No Country in--a cop, yes, but far from hard-assed.
I'm finding the book useful, annoying--the way he uses italics is sometimes ridiculous--kind of random in the films that get chapters, informative (the title aside, there's lots of good making-of background on the films he writes about), and, for better and worse, true to his own films. My guess is he's a better podcaster than author.
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link
I was surprised to see Schrader in the opening credits--don't think I knew that. Happily, was able to watch it for nothing on Tubi.
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link
Written by Schrader for John Milius apparently. Final product not purely Schrader’s though, the other credited screenwriter did a pass on it. It’s a good script too, lot of quietly potent lines in there. Exploitation done with some gravitas.Think I’ll rewatch it tonight if it’s streaming, been a while.
― circa1916, Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link
John Flynn was a cut above the usual exploitation director. He also directed The Outfit of course but also a trio of B-flicks in a row (Best Seller, Lock Up, Out For Justice) which aren’t amazing but are good genre movies.
― omar little, Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link
Probably the kind of journeyman director that Tarantino loves, and the kind they don’t really make anymore to an extent.
― omar little, Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link
TLJ rules.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link
Alfred I thought of you when I came across this recently but forgot to post it
https://www.julienslive.com/lot-details/index/catalog/167/lot/69314
― omar little, Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link
Is Rolling Thunder the one where Schrader's original script had a Travis Bickle cameo?
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link
Definitely thought of Taxi Driver while watching, especially the last 10 minutes.
My goal of watching every film beforehand that gets its own chapter will be put to the test with Paradise Alley.
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link
― omar little
I hope you like squab!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link