I just heard the Clientele for the first time

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the former will really only dig one song on the new ep, while the latter will like the whole piece.

The song that really stood out for me was 'Kelvin Parade'. ('Emptily Through Holloway' I'd heard before.) The rest will take more time, but I think it will come. I'm glad they're taking a new direction, and I feel that the ep creates a distinct atmosphere. Considering the songs that they've performed live that weren't included on the ep, I'm guessing that they were aiming for varied overtones, rather than the continuous high of Suburban Light.

it sounds like they were still searching for the formula on the early songs

I dunno... the guitar work always sounds exquisite to me, like no one else. I'm interested in all those variations. In a chickfactor interview, I read that Alasdair Maclean writes the songs on a nylon- string guitar, and while I can only guess at the difference, I imagine some kind of toy instrument in one scenario, something completely angelic in another. I think he is an original musician.

youn, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

This is the only indie band -- in the Orange Juice/Felt/hunting down split singles sense of the word -- that I really care about. I'm still playing and loving everything they've released and the new record is on order and I'm very much looking forward to it.

scott p., Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Everytime I try to give them a chance, I download something that's so dreadfully out of tune that it makes me ill.

Melissa W, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hehehe.. I'm trying to imagine what Clientele vs V/Vm might be like in the sickness-inducing stakes

electric sound of jim, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i don't like a good number of the songs on the suburban light cd, i think because it sounds like they were still searching for the formula on the early songs but everything since 'i want you more than ever' and 'a fading summer ep' has been nearly perfect.

the songs were not released in the order that they were written. i think you'll find that some of the songs where they were "searching for the formula" as you say were actually written much later than a couple of the songs on "a fading summer". the stuff coming out now is all new (sorta) but there will be songs on the next album that will be older than the songs on "the lost weekend" and maybe older than a couple of the songs on "suburban light"?

marianna, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Listening to the ep last night, particularly during 'Last Orders', I was reminded of something Kevin Pearce wrote in his article for Tangents: when they play, they seem to be taking their time and waiting for cues from within the song. That's where I think the comparisons to Felt break down: one often has the impression that Lawrence and Maurice Deebank were working against each other, and although the tension that resulted was compelling, one doesn't have the sense, as with the Clientele, that the song is being driven, even at its most languid moments, by some force within the song. Last night I was thinking of what Nitsuh wrote about Galaxie 500 to show how they are different from the Velvet Underground--the parader's slow wave. That image fits this ep, but it has finer resolution: with Galaxie 500, I think the impression of languor was as much an effect of the way they were produced: the graininess was a desired effect.

youn, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sorry, that article was actually written by Daniel Williams.

youn, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Just wondering--Do The Clientele ever do any cover songs when they perform live? I'm just thinking it would be interesting to see how they directly filter their influences. Oh, and ha ha if anybody says they're just a tribute band of band x or band y to begin with. I think they're spectacular (that's a dorky word) -- but I do think they're quite special. Anybody heard them do covers?

Tim DiGravina, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

No, no covers but I'd bet they'd do a mean "Daydream Believer".

Poops McGee, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

heres a interview w/Alasdair

Poops McGee, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

They've just done a cover of a West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band song. Havne't heard it or the original tho'

electric sound of jim, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

They have played Neil Diamond's "And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind" live (beautifully).

I'm off to attack the Lost Weekend ep, a 10" copy of which I obtained last night (cheers, m. !)

If interested, more info about the band can be gleaned here or form the very laid back lacewings list

David, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ok, then. well then i suppose i like the more breathy, atmospheric stuff over the marching tunes like 'we can walk together'.

keith, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
Who else has heard the new album "The Violet Hour" on Merge.

I think I have convinced myself that I like this album a lot.

don weiner, Thursday, 22 May 2003 12:51 (twenty years ago) link

From what I have heard, I think it's an absolute masterpiece. "The House Always Wins", in particular, has been making my head spin for months and the recording captures why perfectly. I'm so used to bands I see live make horrible hashes of songs when they come to record them that it's a real treat. But it's one of those records which has a different stand-out every time you play it.

It's exciting that the Clientele seem to be going some of the way to fulfilling Dan's hopes in the triffic article Youn (come back Youn!) linked to above, and I hope allaying some of his fears.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:36 (twenty years ago) link

a new clientele album?! swoon.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

I just hope that Don hasn't heard it via a file sharing network! It's not on sale until July 22nd-ish.

marianna, Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:51 (twenty years ago) link

Don has the advance.

don weiner, Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:35 (twenty years ago) link

i've been digging the Lost Weekend EP a lot lately..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 22 May 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

I hope to hear it soon via a file-sharing network. The Lost Weekend EP is amazing. I'm glad the new one's not available until July because I can't afford it right now.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 22 May 2003 23:21 (twenty years ago) link

i wonder if the knit separates were ever in a ral studio if they would not come out sounding a lot like the clientele.

keith (keithmcl), Friday, 23 May 2003 03:11 (twenty years ago) link

The singer used to be a semi-regular on ILM.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 23 May 2003 03:42 (twenty years ago) link

the singer's partner still is!

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 23 May 2003 03:42 (twenty years ago) link

Who dat?

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 23 May 2003 03:45 (twenty years ago) link

she's about seven posts above you there

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 23 May 2003 04:10 (twenty years ago) link

Don had no idea that anyone in the band hung out here. Cheers to The Clientele!

don weiner, Friday, 23 May 2003 10:10 (twenty years ago) link

four weeks pass...
Oh man, The Violet Hour is incredible. I'll be playing this unit a lot... especially on rainy nights like tonight.

blutroniq (blutroniq), Sunday, 22 June 2003 08:56 (twenty years ago) link

OK, finally got a hold of the Violet Hour, and it is indeed everything I had hoped it would be, especially the second half. Like an old attic dusty with powdered sugar. It's possible I didn't cotton to the first half as much because the air conditioner was drowning it out. And the CD is going to have little films on it apparently! Can't wait.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Sunday, 29 June 2003 00:44 (twenty years ago) link

i just ordered it, i wonder if i will get a snazzy button. it comes out here a week before the uk release. now if the knit separates would release their record already it could be a great week.

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 29 June 2003 03:14 (twenty years ago) link

every time i try to get mixing engineers to put as much reverb on my voice as the clientele do i get laughed at to my face :(

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 29 June 2003 03:40 (twenty years ago) link

do you sing about the rain?

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 29 June 2003 04:33 (twenty years ago) link

no, only about towns and love gone wrong.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 30 June 2003 00:23 (twenty years ago) link

there's your problem.

keith (keithmcl), Monday, 30 June 2003 02:22 (twenty years ago) link

I have seen the Clientele talk to engineers / mixing people about how much reverb they want. It's always fun.

Tim (Tim), Monday, 30 June 2003 07:52 (twenty years ago) link

Reverb is a cop out.

harveyw (harveyw), Monday, 30 June 2003 09:53 (twenty years ago) link

piffle

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 30 June 2003 22:22 (twenty years ago) link

this has rocketed into my top 10 for this year

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 30 June 2003 22:31 (twenty years ago) link

tho it seems a bit churlish to say anything the band does "rockets"

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 30 June 2003 22:32 (twenty years ago) link

funnily enough i really wanted to like the clientele but they do nothing for me. i sold my copy of surburban light last week after i realise that i never did play it much. not as much as james yorkston; etc. i think the fact that i was supposed to like it put me off and the uber-literary lyrics about the english pre-occupations of rain and misery put me off as well. i am seeing them live tomorrow (with the tyde) and well, will the live experience change my mind significantly?

doom-e, Monday, 30 June 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

nice to see the clientele get the props they deserve around here. i have yet to hear the new record and am patiently awaiting it. i love pretty much everything they have put out, my favorite song in particular is "bicycles" off the fading summer 10", with "rain" a close second. i have seen them only once here in SF - last year - and was pretty dissapointed with the low turnout at BOTH. they still put on an amazing show and added a nice bit of SF charm to the chorus of "joseph cornell" - when you're on the cable cars at night ...

i might also add that its true that alasdair is an exceptional and original guitarist with an amazing, dripping voice; the other members of the band are amazing musicians as well. james' bass lines are silky smooth ...

tk, Tuesday, 1 July 2003 03:01 (twenty years ago) link

the clientele are simply lovely, beautiful even...I can't believe I missed the SF show, I'm sure I had some good reason at the time. I hope they come back. Is the new album out in the US?

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 06:42 (twenty years ago) link

im astonished that jess likes this record. i think this must be a very good sign. i saw them live and was mostly bored, their improvisations on their songs were unimaginative and the new songs weren't the greatest. i was worried that they had shot their load (again, an inappropriate metaphor here) but... i guess the evidence suggests no? i shd march to the record store and buy this?

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 20:57 (twenty years ago) link

i just got back from seeing them live, my evidence says: no.

doom-e, Tuesday, 1 July 2003 21:52 (twenty years ago) link

i often agree with doomie but not in this case - the clientele are fab and you need their records. i have never (and will probably never get to) seen them live and don't much give a toss what they're like live when the records are as good as they are.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 22:00 (twenty years ago) link

the album is out in the US on july 8th, merge is selling it on their website now. i agree with jim but i also don't get what people see in james yorkston? i listened to his records and didn't find anything compelling, the clientele have seemed to have taken great pains to make their sound their own even if the songs aren't overly complex(they could be what do i know) it seems like they put a great deal of effort in making each and every one beautiful.

keith (keithmcl), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

what band is james yorkston in?

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 23:48 (twenty years ago) link

keith, the clientele songs all sound the same. it's there. floating about. they are very tedious live (remember this is my opinion). i wanted to like them but found it very hard going and it was one of those cds that i had in my collection which was there because i felt like it had to be there - they are sort of like the guitar rock high llamas, i guess. nice to look at, critically praised but bores the pants off of me.

james yorkston is basically a singer-songwriter with a collective. the clientele have yet to release something as worthy as 'Sweet Jesus'. A simple soul song. "they look so cosmopolitan like this is france or this is londontown" - something so heart-breaking about that line. a folk song from people on the outside looking in at the bright lights. i don't buy the clientele's bedsit poetry. something more honest about james yorkston. even in the winter pastoralism of the music with the lone pidgeon doing mantra-like backing vocals.

i would have to say no to the clientele - though ric menck never heard them before - (we had an argument at the tyde show) that - clientele were alright. better than that godawful london rubbish of comet gain.

you should check out aidan smith. an eccles singer-song writer.

jim - i don't think you are missing much re: clientele live. yawn. the tyde review is done, going to bed.

doom-e, Tuesday, 1 July 2003 23:56 (twenty years ago) link

i like both 'emptily through holloway' and yorkston's 'man with my skills' equally, and a LOT.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 23:58 (twenty years ago) link

the clientele are missing that crucial x-factor, though, that brings it to reality rather than reality television show james yorkston is not comparable to clientele - different sort of singer songwriter. i honestly can't tell the difference between clientele songs - they all sound the same. i'm off to bed. yawn. goodnight.

doom-e, Wednesday, 2 July 2003 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

dan perry rules

Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 5 October 2003 18:50 (twenty years ago) link

dan, do you get constipated a lot?

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 5 October 2003 21:44 (twenty years ago) link

and when you finally let one go, do you groan in key?

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 5 October 2003 21:45 (twenty years ago) link

if you're putting down the anal you're not among friends!!!

the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 5 October 2003 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

Getting called anal has brightened my entire day.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 6 October 2003 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
i like the single version of 'porcelain' better because alasdair's singing is dramatic, more of a performance, e.g., with the sustained sibilant in 'swiftly on its way,' and because the drumming is exciting and chaotic. i like the album version of 'haunted melody' because all the warmth and prettiness and angularity is up front in the production. but i don't dislike the single: it has a different mood, storms in the moors...

youn, Friday, 31 October 2003 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
Have people come to dig The Violet Hour much?

I just listened again hoping it might click - as I loved the initial releases - but it's so foggy and whispy and seems mostly to insinuate melodies that rarely emerge.

Several tracks are sublime - eg. "Lamplight", the title track, those two earlier singles revisited - but I wish they would be a little more insistent throughout. Anyone else find it hard to adore?

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 4 March 2004 06:08 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I find myself not likeing the violet hour as much as I like suburban light. However, I'm of the mind that lamplight is the best thing these guys have ever recorded. Is there any searchable stuff thats not on the lps that I should pick up?

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 19 March 2004 00:12 (twenty years ago) link

there's not really a lot out there that's not on one or the other of the albums. "fear of falling" (the b-side to "haunted melody") is worth checking out (it's on a recent Merge compilation), and the "lost weekend" EP is their high watermark.

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 19 March 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

I happne to know that Dr. C somehow myseteriously ended up with a copy of Suburban Light following an earlier discussion.

What was your verdict in the end, Doc?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 19 March 2004 09:10 (twenty years ago) link

I wonder how much the excess reverb is what attracts the likes of myself, jess and Tim H to The Clientele? Indie-dub?

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Friday, 19 March 2004 11:32 (twenty years ago) link

the reverb on the newer record actually gives me headaches even when i'm not listening to it!

doesn't mean i don't like it though, in fact i'm just not sure

!!!! (amateurist), Friday, 19 March 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

i'm still not really feeling the violet hour. i know its kind of the point, but it still just sort of washes over me for 45 mins, barely leaving any impression at all.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 19 March 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

I like it best, but I heard it first.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Friday, 19 March 2004 15:13 (twenty years ago) link

The new EP (http://acuareladiscos.com/php_e/_noticias.php#51) is amazing: a couple of piano pieces, a limpid instrumental, a ten-minute drone and one fantastic new song in a recognisably Clientele mode.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 19 March 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

you like drones?!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 19 March 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

Sometimes. I quite enjoy talking to you in the pub, for example. (You must surely have been wanting me to say that).

Tim (Tim), Friday, 19 March 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

yes, yes I did.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 19 March 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago) link

That was like watching Raul and Zidane one-two past the last defender and then trickle it wide.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Friday, 19 March 2004 15:51 (twenty years ago) link

for a nonbrit that last phrase sounds hopelessly lurid

!!!! (amateurist), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago) link

amateurist you have to change your new handle so i can stop thinking you are endlessly shocked by everything on ilx

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago) link

sorry

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 19 March 2004 17:28 (twenty years ago) link

bought suburban light on saturday. it's making me feel happy.

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
I like the shunting sound at the end of "The Sea Inside a Shell" from the Ariadne ep. I had never listened to it loud enough to take notice of it before. I only looked up the title to write about the sound. It makes sense now and confirms a thought I'd had about the droning: even though it's an artificial sound, its loudness, its insistence, has the pull of sounds in nature. And even though the shunting sound is mechanical, the after effects put it in the natural world.

youn, Saturday, 28 August 2004 05:33 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Better late than never. Scooped up some tunes after reading thru the Clientele threads. A Fading Summer EP, "Rain," and "Since K Got Over Me" best so far. Superb.

One thing I don't get. The AMG review of A Fading Summer says it's for people who cherish Love's Forever Changes. Huh?? Forever Changes is great and all but A Fading Summer is very different in tone and intent. The references to Neil Halsted and Dean Wareham make more sense.

that's not my post, Saturday, 28 June 2008 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link

new EP is out sometime in the next couple of weeks, by the way.

f. hazel, Saturday, 28 June 2008 08:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Always found the Love referencing a tad odd myself, though I think it has to do with an approach to songwriting more than the actual sound. Someone who likes Love more than I could probably explain. Anyway, listening today to Violet Hour all the way through for the first time in a while and it sounds pretty fucking great -- better than I remembered. Not hard to see why it was a little disappointing after Suburban Light-- how could it not be?-- but it seems like the perfect album-length distillation of their early sound in retrospect.

Mark Rich@rdson, Saturday, 28 June 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

New EP? Is it new, original material or re-mixed old songs?

I love this band, BTW.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 28 June 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

ariadne ep is my favorite

tremendoid, Saturday, 28 June 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...

The Love comparisons are only half-right. If you took Arthur Lee out of Love and just let Bryan MacLean (presumably someone who's only spiritually related to Alasdair) sing about "orange skies, carnivals and cotton candy" you'd have a pretty decent blueprint for the Clientele's sound. Bryan's collected demos released ten years ago, as well as the Love songs where he sings lead, would be an example of what this Lee-less Love would sound like.

Cunga, Saturday, 3 January 2009 08:48 (fifteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Fans of the C should check out this band Murals

calstars, Friday, 21 October 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link


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