Spider-Man 4 (reboot thread) -- aka The Amazing Spider-Man

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No, I'm with you there.

The Ten Things I Hate About Commandments (Abbbottt), Monday, 11 October 2010 19:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

No, I agree! xp

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Monday, 11 October 2010 19:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

i dunno how to be appropriately cynical to post to this thread... can't really get my head around how this movie is getting made

goole, Monday, 11 October 2010 19:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

i dream of a world without rhys ifans

former moderator, please give generously (DG), Monday, 11 October 2010 19:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

I share your dream, DG. Now and forever.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Monday, 11 October 2010 19:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Reboot? More like re-poot!

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 11 October 2010 19:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

i don't get why they're rebooting this series. it isn't like, say, batman, where it had been nearly 20 years since the good installments of the original movie franchise. and it isn't like, say, the hulk, where the makers of the reboot (and i guess a lot of other observers?) said the first version was bad and didn't do justice to the story/character, which justifies making the reboot so close in time to the original.

this is just strange, and stranger if the villain is rehashed from the recent franchise, too (isn't that the case with the goblin character?).

be original! make a live-action movie version of peanuts, with a lunatic serial killer replacing lucy as the antagonist for charlie brown. or something.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 11 October 2010 19:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'd be more partial to a rebooting of the Mighty Ducks to where it's a 3 hour dramatic epic about a kid who is kidnapped at the age of 4 and eventually escapes at age 11 by using a hockey stick that was in the captor's garage, and lives nomadically and uses the hockey stick for protection, and then as a result he joins the local soccer team WHO DOESN'T KNOW HIS DARK SECRET and becomes a star goalie.

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 19:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

and the name of that local soccer team was.... Manchester United

crude interloper of a once august profession (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 11 October 2010 20:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

I guess being that I gave him a hockey stick, it woulda made logical sense that he join a hockey team.

Maybe that's my M. Night Shalamayan twist....

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 20:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

time is right for a gritty christopher nolan reboot of Hagar the Horrible imho, would love to see what it would be like if vikings were 'real'

former moderator, please give generously (DG), Monday, 11 October 2010 20:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

They should just retitle this Annoying Britishers and be done with it.

tbf i think it will annoy other ppl as well

sock lobster (blueski), Monday, 11 October 2010 20:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

You just had to use the word "viking" on ILE. Have we learned nothing?

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 20:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

I hope we finally find out how he became "Spider-Man."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 October 2010 21:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

lol

F-Unit (Ste), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 10:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

hopefully there will be an extended 40 minute sequence where Spiderman forgoes his do-gooding to use his Spidy powers to pick up chicks in bars

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 12:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

Best idea yet

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 20:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://venturebrosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/spider-guy-and-venture.jpg

I would much rather see a Brown Widow movie tbh.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 20:14 (4 years ago) Permalink


romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 20:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

okay Emma Stone as Gwen Stacy has made me re-interested in this

GLEERILLAZ! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 20:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

She can't save this trainwreck, but I do like her.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 20:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

skip the movie, wait for the gifs

goole, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 20:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

why isn't she mary jane ffs

guanciale diary (s1ocki), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 13:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

Well, Gwen comes before Mary Jane, so if they're doing a "proper" reboot it makes sense.

Also she's a good candidate to play a cute science geek; the thing that struck me about her performance in "Easy A" was how effortlessly she portrayed the relatable smart girl.

GLEERILLAZ! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

the way these things usually work tho she'll be just hanging around in the background as fanservice

guanciale diary (s1ocki), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 16:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

They're certainly not going to kill her off like they did in the comics SPOILER ALERT.

not Morbius old, but still (Phil D.), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 16:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

They should just start the reboot series at Peter Parker's birth, then have two or three movies about his childhood and adolescence before they even bring up the Spider-Man shit

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 18:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

movie should just be about aunt may's childhood in 1920s brooklyn

tylerw, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 18:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

needs to be called Spider-Man Reborn: Legend of the Lost Secret

the most disgusting of savages (latebloomer), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 18:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

I hope we finally find out how he became "Spider-Man."

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 11, 2010 5:45 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

hahaha

guanciale diary (s1ocki), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 18:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Some website is claiming an EXCLUSIVE that Rhys Ifans is going to play The Lizard, but I haven't seen it confirmed anyplace.

Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Thursday, 14 October 2010 18:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

isn't rhys ifans the lead singer of super-furry-animals?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 15 October 2010 01:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

That would be one slow-moving lizard.

Number None, Friday, 15 October 2010 01:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Is there a thread for the doomed Bono/Edge Broadway musical? Shit just gets funnier and funnier.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/05/theater/05spiderman.html

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 November 2010 11:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

The delay came as a sharp disappointment, for instance, to Samuel Moulton, a Harvard University lecturer who had bought tickets for Nov. 14 as the high point of a New York getaway with his girlfriend, who is flying over from England.

“She’s a big theater fan, and I’m a big U2 fan, so this seemed like the perfect convergence of interests,” Mr. Moulton said. “There’s too much planning required to rebook. I’m just annoyed that they couldn’t decide all of this earlier, since it seems obvious that this show would be a technical monster.”

man, i hope they find something else to do

rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Friday, 5 November 2010 11:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

Is that the article that references some giant unproven human slingshot device that thus far has seriously injured two actor/dancer/flyers after propelling them into the lip of the stage? And also the producers' apparent shock that all of the stunt and effects sequences need to be formally inspected for safety, not just some of them?

All this work, and it's a friggin' "Spider-Man" musical. With songs from U2. I can't wait for them to do a "Batman"-themed version of "Stomp."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 November 2010 11:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's funny how a Broadway musical directed by Julie Taymor, a Broadway musical about Spider-Man and a Broadway musical with music by U2 all sound like profitable ideas, but a Broadway musical about Spider-Man directed by Julie Taymor with music by U2 sounds immediately like a bomb.

da croupier, Friday, 5 November 2010 12:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Turn Off The Dark" is such a lame title

Number None, Friday, 5 November 2010 12:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

that bit was bono's idea

conrad, Friday, 5 November 2010 13:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

btw Martin Sheen as Uncle Ben in the film apparently.

Gukbe, Friday, 5 November 2010 14:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

sissy spacek aunt may

conrad, Friday, 5 November 2010 14:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's funny how a Broadway musical directed by Julie Taymor, a Broadway musical about Spider-Man and a Broadway musical with music by U2 all sound like profitable ideas, but a Broadway musical about Spider-Man directed by Julie Taymor with music by U2 sounds immediately like a bomb.

What I am surprised by is how much money has been sunk into the whole enterprise...I don't see how it is ever going to make a profit, if it ever does get off of the ground.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Friday, 5 November 2010 15:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

particularly if they keep bodyslamming dancers into the stage

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Friday, 5 November 2010 15:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

so so funny

koyaani (s1ocki), Friday, 5 November 2010 15:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

its like an sctv sketch

koyaani (s1ocki), Friday, 5 November 2010 15:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

At a certain point they should invite Bono to 'test the new ride we're developing.'

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 November 2010 15:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm having a hard time accepting the franchise after Thomas Haden Church was hired for the third. Now it's hard to take it as seriously.

Just breaking it in, feels comfy (MintIce), Friday, 5 November 2010 15:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm having a hard time accepting the franchise after Thomas Haden Church was hired for the third.

right. totesally. how could they?

rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Friday, 5 November 2010 15:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

absolutely destroyed the character forever

koyaani (s1ocki), Friday, 5 November 2010 15:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

So, let me make sure I understand you correctly:

Thomas Haden Church is more of a franchise dealbreaker to you than a Bono-scored musical featuring a deathtrap contraption that slams hapless actors into the stage?

DJP, Friday, 5 November 2010 15:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

You know that comment was a comparison of Raimi 3 to 1 & 2 and I hadn't seen the new one yet when I said that, right?

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Friday, 13 July 2012 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think thomp's saying it's a weird thing to say since spider-man 2 was schizy as well.

da croupier, Friday, 13 July 2012 17:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, sorry. segueing awkwardly.

thomp, Friday, 13 July 2012 17:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

should read "the difference between the raimi movies and this new one seems like:"

thomp, Friday, 13 July 2012 17:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Raimi 2 didn't feel MPD* to me at the time, which is why I said "I should go back and revisit the movies but here is the impression I had"; you can merge genres together in a haphazard way or in a more seamless way, and the tone transitions in Raimi 2 did not feel as off to me as the tone transitions in Raimi 3.

* yes I am a "schizophrenic doesn't mean that" pedant

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Friday, 13 July 2012 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

i def will admit that the dance sequence in 3 was a step beyond the tone jumps in the previous spideys, though i think it was still within the sensibility (which admittedly a lot of superhero fans clearly don't share) and i'm more of a "AND he gave me a dance sequence!" kinda guy then a "WHY did he give me a dance sequence?" guy anyway, most of my favorite directors could be lumped into "for people who have seen a lot of movies"

da croupier, Friday, 13 July 2012 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

also the dance sequence in and of itself was smooth and hilarious, it wasn't some joel schumacher thing where the director was blundering through some nonsense

da croupier, Friday, 13 July 2012 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

love that it seems the big sticking point between sony and raimi is that the dude was dead-set on the next villain being john malkovich with wings - i can't blame a corporate monolith for deciding they'd better off spending $150m on this than $300m on that.

da croupier, Friday, 13 July 2012 17:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Aw man, that would have been AWESOME.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 13 July 2012 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm still bummed venom wasn't a single-movie storyline, that it got cramped out by the shitty sandman villain. i know this pushes us further into dance scene/the amazing foibles of peter parker territory but the maguire films were v well suited to that i think.

, Blogger (schlump), Friday, 13 July 2012 19:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

my real beef with Spideydance was that it didn't look like this:

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Friday, 13 July 2012 19:31 (2 years ago) Permalink


DEAL WITH IT.

I found him in a Bon Ton ad (Nicole), Friday, 13 July 2012 19:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

his verging-on-spitcurl is the funniest fucking thing

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Friday, 13 July 2012 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have never understood that hairdo at all, on him or on any other emo doofus.

I found him in a Bon Ton ad (Nicole), Friday, 13 July 2012 19:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

I really liked a lot of the differences between the different movies in Spiderman 2 - the classic pull back from kiss to reveal car being thrown at them is definitely a "Oh yeah, this is a Sam Raimi movie!" moment.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 13 July 2012 19:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

the library portion of the school fight in Amazing was the point where I felt like I could have been watching a Raimi movie

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Friday, 13 July 2012 19:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

best thing about the Spideydance sequence is everyone on the street recoiling in terror

Simon H., Friday, 13 July 2012 21:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Saw this the other night. Okay entertainment for an evening in a boring town with not much else to do. Hadn't seen a 3D movie before and found it really distracting and not at all helpful, so maybe that colored my impressions, but there was an awful of jarring, jumpy stuff that took me out of the movie. Really felt like it was missing the heart that the Raimi films had, and in any given scene, would bend hell and earth to get the appropriate payoff/punchline for that scene, regardless of what that did to the overall tone or flow or whatever. One of my friends said it felt much more like it was made for teenagers than the other ones, which is striking 'cause Raimi 1 and 2 were huge with teenagers, it was just that you didn't feel weird watching them as an adult.

Lot of sloppy plotting too...like, an awful lot of buildup on Peter being a really crappy kid to May and Ben, and then the payoff is...he brings the eggs? Like, three weeks late? And it's all good? And what was the point of having him make that whole promise at the end, and then renege on it in, seriously, about eight minutes of screen time? Just clutter IMO.

Lizard kind of a cool choice for a starter villain...since he's another guy that gets mixed up with an animal it makes sense that he could be worked into the origin story without it feeling like a weird join between an origin story and another story with a villain in it. But he's a bad choice for a villain in general for the general reason that Jekyll is a lot more interesting than Hyde, or rather, what's interesting about Jekyll is that he'd harbor the desire to be Hyde. Once he's Hyde, he can't do much besides growl, climb things, and prepare to set off the painfully forshadowed Genesis Device (or whatever).

What was the point of the webbing being technological? In the comics it sorta works, since it has to do with Peter being super brainy - - but this version of Peter's not an outcast for his smarts, it's more for being the kinda artsy photo-taking guy. (And he doesn't seem that unpopular really!) So the techno-webbing just adds screen time and troublesome questions: what happens when he runs out of the webbing he stole? Isn't stealing wrong? Does he invent mechanical contraptions all the time, or just the one pointless one for his door that can be converted into a web shooter? Felt like maybe a few bits of different drafts getting jumbled together.

Wouldn't watch it again, especially if Raimi 1/2 were at hand, but again, ehh, entertaining.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 14 July 2012 11:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

peter's room is the most interesting space in the film -- that he's built a whole next-level security-arrangement thing to lock an interior door to some entirely trustworthy seeming guardian figures is a fascinating detail (yes, i'm sure that's not why they did it) -- and then there's this poster pointing you at a totally different totally freudian film about a guy who uses a camera in a voyeuristic way

thomp, Saturday, 14 July 2012 13:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

One of my favorite Marvel themes, which for obvious legal reasons will not be explored on-screen, has been the occasional latent prejudice of Spider-man toward the X-Men. That is, Spider-man, too, is essentially a mutant - bitten by a radioactive spider and all that - yet he doesn't consider himself a mutant like the X-Men, and therefore thinks of himself as relatively cootie-free compared to the burden they carry from birth. Don't know if Hulk or Captain America or Daredevil or other genetically mutated characters distinguish themselves this way. Maybe a comics stan can expand.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 July 2012 13:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Spider-Man is not a mutant though, at least not as defined by the Marvel universe. The entire prejudice arises from people who treat him like one and his objections, not on the grounds that it's wrong to treat people that way, but because he isn't actually a mutant.

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Saturday, 14 July 2012 14:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Marvel mutant = you are a human being who was either born with powers or had them manifest around puberty with no outside influence
Marvel superpowered being = you are an alien, or you are a magician, or you use advanced technology, or you had an event happen to you that gave you powers

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Saturday, 14 July 2012 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

presumably petey's kid would have a high chance of being a mutant, by comic logic

da croupier, Saturday, 14 July 2012 14:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

there was a Spider-Girl comic about Peter's daughter

Number None, Saturday, 14 July 2012 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

And a really bad alternate-future comic where Peter's radioactive ejaculate had eventually given Mary Jane cancer. :-/

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 14 July 2012 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

have they ever acknowledged that you should consult a doctor if you regularly experience tingling sensations

da croupier, Saturday, 14 July 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

on a somewhat related note, i stumbled across this blog recently that documents medical inaccuracies in comic books. Weirdly engrossing
http://www.politedissent.com/

Number None, Saturday, 14 July 2012 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

But he has literally been mutated, no? Via radioactive catalyst?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 July 2012 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

'literally'

thomp, Saturday, 14 July 2012 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's ok they have a term for it

Mutate is a term used to refer to superhumans who acquired their superpowers by exposure to some mutagenic compound or energy (either accidentally or deliberately). Unlike Marvel's Mutants, Marvel's Mutates require external stimuli to acquire their powers (e.g. they weren't born with the potential to manifest powers)

Number None, Saturday, 14 July 2012 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure that was a rare instance of using "literally" correctly?

So does the premise of the first X-Men movie, with Magneto building a mutating ray, not jibe with the Marvel mythos? 'Cause those people he mutates are not technically mutants but, um, mutates?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

'technically'

thomp, Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

'thomp'

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Caught Spider-Man 2 yesterday and got sucked in immediately - was really struck by how much more effective the tone and approach were, versus the new one. I mean, yeah, there's a lot of oddball stuff (the landlord's daughter character is baffling) but it still feels of a piece, and lend the movie more heart so that when Spider-Man has to do something difficult you really feel for the guy. Also love all the little touches that make it feel like it was made by an actual, specific directorial sensibility - - - like when there's a panning shot whizzing by alongside one of Ock's tentacle heads in super close-up, that's total Raimi in horror mode stuff. The movie has a personality to it. Or how when Doc Ock robs a bank and starts slamming Spidey with bags of money - you can tell someone was thinking about ways to play up the movie's themes. So, yeah, it's ironic that the money Peter Parker desperately needs from the bank is something dangerous to Spidey, but beyond the gag, it also points up the Big Idea: the things Peter Parker and Spider-Man want aren't necessarily the same. And it's allowed to pass by without comment or neon signs, but it enhances the film. Lots of stuff like that going on. New one seems so much more by-the-books and Smallville by comparison.

Also, J. Jonah Jameson.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 20 July 2012 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Will concede, though, that the CGI does look a little dated now, which surprises me 'cause when these came out I really thought of them, especially 2, as looking really convincing and real, without obvious seams.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 20 July 2012 16:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh I totally thought 1 looked like a videogame, I just didn't care because it was a videogame I wanted to play

(eventually I did get to play that videogame but it was called Arkham City)

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Friday, 20 July 2012 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

LOL at Oscorp security:
* Not having the interns' pictures on their badges
* Letting the interns pick up their badges without having to show ID
* Using an observable code (as opposed to something biometric) to access the spider cage, or whatever they call it.

i like slash and i vote (j.lu), Monday, 23 July 2012 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

didn't understand why Martin Sheen was wearing false teeth

he's old?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

sheen's had that telltale dentures hiss going on for a while now

Hungry4Ass, Monday, 23 July 2012 15:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Trailer for the new one:

Some of the fight scenes look pretty cool, but the stuff with Harry is gonna be a chore AGAIN.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 6 December 2013 16:56 (10 months ago) Permalink

Some seriously unfinished CGI in that trailer unless they want things to look like PS3 cutscenes.

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:57 (10 months ago) Permalink

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 December 2013 18:32 (10 months ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

This is the kind of movie where the bad guy asks a question and then whistles the “Jeopardy” theme, right after he says, “My, oh my, how the tables have turned!” Where Foxx’s villain, dubbed Electro after he turns into a human Taser, says, “It’s time to meet your destiny.”

Then, preparing to spray high voltage all over Times Square, “It’s my birthday, now it’s time for me to light my candles!” Which is not the only reason Electro reminded me of Schwarzenegger’s Mr. Freeze. Alex, Rob: At the banquet of Hollywood, you’re the Cheez Whiz.This is the kind of movie where the bad guy asks a question and then whistles the “Jeopardy” theme, right after he says, “My, oh my, how the tables have turned!” Where Foxx’s villain, dubbed Electro after he turns into a human Taser, says, “It’s time to meet your destiny.”

Then, preparing to spray high voltage all over Times Square, “It’s my birthday, now it’s time for me to light my candles!” Which is not the only reason Electro reminded me of Schwarzenegger’s Mr. Freeze. Alex, Rob: At the banquet of Hollywood, you’re the Cheez Whiz.

http://nypost.com/2014/04/25/the-amazing-spider-man-2-fails-to-impress/

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 20:29 (6 months ago) Permalink

Woah sorry bout that weird double post.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 20:29 (6 months ago) Permalink


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