Spider-Man 4 (reboot thread) -- aka The Amazing Spider-Man

and the name of that local soccer team was.... Manchester United

I guess being that I gave him a hockey stick, it woulda made logical sense that he join a hockey team.

Maybe that's my M. Night Shalamayan twist....

time is right for a gritty christopher nolan reboot of Hagar the Horrible imho, would love to see what it would be like if vikings were 'real'

They should just retitle this Annoying Britishers and be done with it.

tbf i think it will annoy other ppl as well

You just had to use the word "viking" on ILE. Have we learned nothing?

I hope we finally find out how he became "Spider-Man."

lol

hopefully there will be an extended 40 minute sequence where Spiderman forgoes his do-gooding to use his Spidy powers to pick up chicks in bars

Best idea yet

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I would much rather see a Brown Widow movie tbh.

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okay Emma Stone as Gwen Stacy has made me re-interested in this

She can't save this trainwreck, but I do like her.

skip the movie, wait for the gifs

why isn't she mary jane ffs

Well, Gwen comes before Mary Jane, so if they're doing a "proper" reboot it makes sense.

Also she's a good candidate to play a cute science geek; the thing that struck me about her performance in "Easy A" was how effortlessly she portrayed the relatable smart girl.

the way these things usually work tho she'll be just hanging around in the background as fanservice

They're certainly not going to kill her off like they did in the comics SPOILER ALERT.

They should just start the reboot series at Peter Parker's birth, then have two or three movies about his childhood and adolescence before they even bring up the Spider-Man shit

movie should just be about aunt may's childhood in 1920s brooklyn

needs to be called Spider-Man Reborn: Legend of the Lost Secret

I hope we finally find out how he became "Spider-Man."

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 11, 2010 5:45 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

hahaha

Some website is claiming an EXCLUSIVE that Rhys Ifans is going to play The Lizard, but I haven't seen it confirmed anyplace.

isn't rhys ifans the lead singer of super-furry-animals?

That would be one slow-moving lizard.

Is there a thread for the doomed Bono/Edge Broadway musical? Shit just gets funnier and funnier.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/05/theater/05spiderman.html

The delay came as a sharp disappointment, for instance, to Samuel Moulton, a Harvard University lecturer who had bought tickets for Nov. 14 as the high point of a New York getaway with his girlfriend, who is flying over from England.

“She’s a big theater fan, and I’m a big U2 fan, so this seemed like the perfect convergence of interests,” Mr. Moulton said. “There’s too much planning required to rebook. I’m just annoyed that they couldn’t decide all of this earlier, since it seems obvious that this show would be a technical monster.”

man, i hope they find something else to do

Is that the article that references some giant unproven human slingshot device that thus far has seriously injured two actor/dancer/flyers after propelling them into the lip of the stage? And also the producers' apparent shock that all of the stunt and effects sequences need to be formally inspected for safety, not just some of them?

All this work, and it's a friggin' "Spider-Man" musical. With songs from U2. I can't wait for them to do a "Batman"-themed version of "Stomp."

It's funny how a Broadway musical directed by Julie Taymor, a Broadway musical about Spider-Man and a Broadway musical with music by U2 all sound like profitable ideas, but a Broadway musical about Spider-Man directed by Julie Taymor with music by U2 sounds immediately like a bomb.

"Turn Off The Dark" is such a lame title

that bit was bono's idea

btw Martin Sheen as Uncle Ben in the film apparently.

sissy spacek aunt may

It's funny how a Broadway musical directed by Julie Taymor, a Broadway musical about Spider-Man and a Broadway musical with music by U2 all sound like profitable ideas, but a Broadway musical about Spider-Man directed by Julie Taymor with music by U2 sounds immediately like a bomb.

What I am surprised by is how much money has been sunk into the whole enterprise...I don't see how it is ever going to make a profit, if it ever does get off of the ground.

particularly if they keep bodyslamming dancers into the stage

so so funny

its like an sctv sketch

At a certain point they should invite Bono to 'test the new ride we're developing.'

I'm having a hard time accepting the franchise after Thomas Haden Church was hired for the third. Now it's hard to take it as seriously.

I'm having a hard time accepting the franchise after Thomas Haden Church was hired for the third.

right. totesally. how could they?

absolutely destroyed the character forever

So, let me make sure I understand you correctly:

Thomas Haden Church is more of a franchise dealbreaker to you than a Bono-scored musical featuring a deathtrap contraption that slams hapless actors into the stage?

At a certain point they should invite Bono to 'test the new ride we're developing.'

― Ned Raggett, Friday, November 5, 2010 3:28 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

Ha, seconded.

So, let me make sure I understand you correctly:

Thomas Haden Church is more of a franchise dealbreaker to you than a Bono-scored musical featuring a deathtrap contraption that slams hapless actors into the stage?

― THC, Friday, November 5, 2010 11:35 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

the producers' apparent shock that all of the stunt and effects sequences need to be formally inspected for safety, not just some of them?

obv being made w/ Tea Party dough: GET YOUR GOVERNMENT OFF MY THEATRICAL HYDRAULICS

i don't get why they're rebooting this series. it isn't like, say, batman, where it had been nearly 20 years since the good installments of the original movie franchise. and it isn't like, say, the hulk, where the makers of the reboot (and i guess a lot of other observers?) said the first version was bad and didn't do justice to the story/character, which justifies making the reboot so close in time to the original.

this is just strange, and stranger if the villain is rehashed from the recent franchise, too (isn't that the case with the goblin character?).

be original! make a live-action movie version of peanuts, with a lunatic serial killer replacing lucy as the antagonist for charlie brown. or something.

― Daniel, Esq., Monday, October 11, 2010 3:41 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark

It's mostly a money thing. Once Raimi left the project, Sony execs probably asked themselves if they really needed Tobey Maguire and his massive payday (he and Raimi would've been expected to claim ~25% of the gross of Spider-Man 4) when they can just pay someone like Andrew Garfield six figures. And once you decide you're going younger and cheaper, you might as well reboot the whole franchise, because audiences will find it weird if they go to see Spider-Man 4 and it has a whole new cast. "Not making a Spider-Man movie" was of course never an option, because it's Sony's biggest and most important property by a huge margin.

^^ killin it ^^

ha I just now realized s1ocki wasn't making a weed joke

Surely men in black 3 could plug the gap left by spiderman in sony's balance sheet?

perhaps hancock 2

the library portion of the school fight in Amazing was the point where I felt like I could have been watching a Raimi movie

best thing about the Spideydance sequence is everyone on the street recoiling in terror

Saw this the other night. Okay entertainment for an evening in a boring town with not much else to do. Hadn't seen a 3D movie before and found it really distracting and not at all helpful, so maybe that colored my impressions, but there was an awful of jarring, jumpy stuff that took me out of the movie. Really felt like it was missing the heart that the Raimi films had, and in any given scene, would bend hell and earth to get the appropriate payoff/punchline for that scene, regardless of what that did to the overall tone or flow or whatever. One of my friends said it felt much more like it was made for teenagers than the other ones, which is striking 'cause Raimi 1 and 2 were huge with teenagers, it was just that you didn't feel weird watching them as an adult.

Lot of sloppy plotting too...like, an awful lot of buildup on Peter being a really crappy kid to May and Ben, and then the payoff is...he brings the eggs? Like, three weeks late? And it's all good? And what was the point of having him make that whole promise at the end, and then renege on it in, seriously, about eight minutes of screen time? Just clutter IMO.

Lizard kind of a cool choice for a starter villain...since he's another guy that gets mixed up with an animal it makes sense that he could be worked into the origin story without it feeling like a weird join between an origin story and another story with a villain in it. But he's a bad choice for a villain in general for the general reason that Jekyll is a lot more interesting than Hyde, or rather, what's interesting about Jekyll is that he'd harbor the desire to be Hyde. Once he's Hyde, he can't do much besides growl, climb things, and prepare to set off the painfully forshadowed Genesis Device (or whatever).

What was the point of the webbing being technological? In the comics it sorta works, since it has to do with Peter being super brainy - - but this version of Peter's not an outcast for his smarts, it's more for being the kinda artsy photo-taking guy. (And he doesn't seem that unpopular really!) So the techno-webbing just adds screen time and troublesome questions: what happens when he runs out of the webbing he stole? Isn't stealing wrong? Does he invent mechanical contraptions all the time, or just the one pointless one for his door that can be converted into a web shooter? Felt like maybe a few bits of different drafts getting jumbled together.

Wouldn't watch it again, especially if Raimi 1/2 were at hand, but again, ehh, entertaining.

peter's room is the most interesting space in the film -- that he's built a whole next-level security-arrangement thing to lock an interior door to some entirely trustworthy seeming guardian figures is a fascinating detail (yes, i'm sure that's not why they did it) -- and then there's this poster pointing you at a totally different totally freudian film about a guy who uses a camera in a voyeuristic way

One of my favorite Marvel themes, which for obvious legal reasons will not be explored on-screen, has been the occasional latent prejudice of Spider-man toward the X-Men. That is, Spider-man, too, is essentially a mutant - bitten by a radioactive spider and all that - yet he doesn't consider himself a mutant like the X-Men, and therefore thinks of himself as relatively cootie-free compared to the burden they carry from birth. Don't know if Hulk or Captain America or Daredevil or other genetically mutated characters distinguish themselves this way. Maybe a comics stan can expand.

Spider-Man is not a mutant though, at least not as defined by the Marvel universe. The entire prejudice arises from people who treat him like one and his objections, not on the grounds that it's wrong to treat people that way, but because he isn't actually a mutant.

Marvel mutant = you are a human being who was either born with powers or had them manifest around puberty with no outside influence
Marvel superpowered being = you are an alien, or you are a magician, or you use advanced technology, or you had an event happen to you that gave you powers

presumably petey's kid would have a high chance of being a mutant, by comic logic

there was a Spider-Girl comic about Peter's daughter

And a really bad alternate-future comic where Peter's radioactive ejaculate had eventually given Mary Jane cancer. :-/

have they ever acknowledged that you should consult a doctor if you regularly experience tingling sensations

on a somewhat related note, i stumbled across this blog recently that documents medical inaccuracies in comic books. Weirdly engrossing
http://www.politedissent.com/

But he has literally been mutated, no? Via radioactive catalyst?

'literally'

It's ok they have a term for it

Mutate is a term used to refer to superhumans who acquired their superpowers by exposure to some mutagenic compound or energy (either accidentally or deliberately). Unlike Marvel's Mutants, Marvel's Mutates require external stimuli to acquire their powers (e.g. they weren't born with the potential to manifest powers)

Pretty sure that was a rare instance of using "literally" correctly?

So does the premise of the first X-Men movie, with Magneto building a mutating ray, not jibe with the Marvel mythos? 'Cause those people he mutates are not technically mutants but, um, mutates?

'technically'

'thomp'

Caught Spider-Man 2 yesterday and got sucked in immediately - was really struck by how much more effective the tone and approach were, versus the new one. I mean, yeah, there's a lot of oddball stuff (the landlord's daughter character is baffling) but it still feels of a piece, and lend the movie more heart so that when Spider-Man has to do something difficult you really feel for the guy. Also love all the little touches that make it feel like it was made by an actual, specific directorial sensibility - - - like when there's a panning shot whizzing by alongside one of Ock's tentacle heads in super close-up, that's total Raimi in horror mode stuff. The movie has a personality to it. Or how when Doc Ock robs a bank and starts slamming Spidey with bags of money - you can tell someone was thinking about ways to play up the movie's themes. So, yeah, it's ironic that the money Peter Parker desperately needs from the bank is something dangerous to Spidey, but beyond the gag, it also points up the Big Idea: the things Peter Parker and Spider-Man want aren't necessarily the same. And it's allowed to pass by without comment or neon signs, but it enhances the film. Lots of stuff like that going on. New one seems so much more by-the-books and Smallville by comparison.

Also, J. Jonah Jameson.

Will concede, though, that the CGI does look a little dated now, which surprises me 'cause when these came out I really thought of them, especially 2, as looking really convincing and real, without obvious seams.

oh I totally thought 1 looked like a videogame, I just didn't care because it was a videogame I wanted to play

(eventually I did get to play that videogame but it was called Arkham City)

LOL at Oscorp security:
* Not having the interns' pictures on their badges
* Letting the interns pick up their badges without having to show ID
* Using an observable code (as opposed to something biometric) to access the spider cage, or whatever they call it.

didn't understand why Martin Sheen was wearing false teeth

he's old?

sheen's had that telltale dentures hiss going on for a while now

Trailer for the new one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbp3Ra3Yp74

Some of the fight scenes look pretty cool, but the stuff with Harry is gonna be a chore AGAIN.

Some seriously unfinished CGI in that trailer unless they want things to look like PS3 cutscenes.

http://www.travisprange.com/blog/images/sonycantdesignanewfontdr0.jpg

This is the kind of movie where the bad guy asks a question and then whistles the “Jeopardy” theme, right after he says, “My, oh my, how the tables have turned!” Where Foxx’s villain, dubbed Electro after he turns into a human Taser, says, “It’s time to meet your destiny.”

Then, preparing to spray high voltage all over Times Square, “It’s my birthday, now it’s time for me to light my candles!” Which is not the only reason Electro reminded me of Schwarzenegger’s Mr. Freeze. Alex, Rob: At the banquet of Hollywood, you’re the Cheez Whiz.This is the kind of movie where the bad guy asks a question and then whistles the “Jeopardy” theme, right after he says, “My, oh my, how the tables have turned!” Where Foxx’s villain, dubbed Electro after he turns into a human Taser, says, “It’s time to meet your destiny.”

Then, preparing to spray high voltage all over Times Square, “It’s my birthday, now it’s time for me to light my candles!” Which is not the only reason Electro reminded me of Schwarzenegger’s Mr. Freeze. Alex, Rob: At the banquet of Hollywood, you’re the Cheez Whiz.

http://nypost.com/2014/04/25/the-amazing-spider-man-2-fails-to-impress/

Woah sorry bout that weird double post.

both of these movies baffle me in that there are usually a handful of really good choices (in part 2, the casting of Dane DeHaan, and some well directed rhythmic creativity to some of the action scenes, a decent reimagining for Gwen's exit) surrounded by a ton of terrible choices (script and pacing were terrible like part 1, origin story pt. 2 with dad Parker totally unnecessary, romance elements weaker that the first one, underdeveloped relationship between Peter and Harry, terrible, terirble villains - why did they even cast Paul Giametti? This movie somehow manages to waste Colm Feore - and oh god nerdy old Electro was just awful in every way)

tbf i don't know if there's anyway to ever put the Green Goblin on screen without it just looking awful, DeHaan probably the closest to getting the freakish psychotic nature of the villain. and i liked that they largely ditched the evil executive angle of Norman for the younger version, though I guess we'll never get our film version of Harry terrifying his wife and kids at the dinner table

Just ten minutes in, watching the first of these reboots, and its fucking godawful.

Seriously does it get better? That whole high school section at the start was embarassing.

no, stop now, there are so many good movies you could be watching instead

that was bad

The thing was, it didn't bring anything to the table that the Maguire/Dunst version didn't. And nothing was really improved upon.

I'm going to watch Tootsie now

Is this the correct rolling thread for bad news about Spider-Man movies?

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