AMC zombie series from Frank 'Majestic' Darabont - The Walking Dead

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i like the comic actually; not sure why everyone's agin it.
But i read the first fifty-five issues in one sitting, so...

Brick Frog! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 October 2010 05:03 (thirteen years ago) link

55 issues? I assumed it was a limited run kind of thing. Is it still going? Would it provide enough material for several seasons worth of stories? I don't really want to wikipedia it in case of spoilers.

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Thursday, 14 October 2010 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I really meant to ask, "does it end?" as in "is this series going to be 5 or so seasons of awesome shit all heading towards a conclusion or is it just going to dither on and on?"

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Thursday, 14 October 2010 05:07 (thirteen years ago) link

The comic's up to 76 or so issues now, and is intended to be open-ended.

buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Thursday, 14 October 2010 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link

walking dead comics r good, tv show might be okay if made well. one of the great things about the comic was the level of ongoing tension, even if the immediate conflict did not involve da scary zombies. it is a dark future.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Thursday, 14 October 2010 05:19 (thirteen years ago) link

one of the great things about the book is that it's continuously in motion. I don't think it's a spoiler to say that no one is safe; major characters die regularly. Stories don't settle into any one setting for too very long.

Brick Frog! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 October 2010 05:25 (thirteen years ago) link

and yeah, there's enough material for five seasons, easy. Kirkman more or less wrote them in "seasons" anyway; his stuff is very storyboardy.

Brick Frog! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 October 2010 05:26 (thirteen years ago) link

still, very curious to see how closely this hews to the comic. Anybody know what the word is on Kirkman's involvement/faithfulness to the comic storyline?

Brick Frog! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 October 2010 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't find the comic particularly amazing, just seemed very standard zombie storyline. artwork was average, i thought. later eps were improved though.

have no idea what the tv series will be like, but i don't recall any other zombie tv/series other than the big brother feature (which i liked), so this might be rather refreshing as opposed to yet another full on zombie flick.

F-Unit (Ste), Thursday, 14 October 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

The admittedly small number of issues I read didn't seem to either add anything significant to zombie mythology or have particularly interesting characters.

A brownish area with points (chap), Thursday, 14 October 2010 11:02 (thirteen years ago) link

But I will certainly watch the first couple of eps at least.

A brownish area with points (chap), Thursday, 14 October 2010 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I read thar his rationale is not so much to add to the mythology (originally it was going to be set in the public domain world of Romero's first Dead film) as to fill in the viewer's desire to know what happens NEXT, and then NEXT, and then NEXT--how peoploe keep on living in the world post-zombie apocalypse, as opposed to the few days/weeks that a film can show.

buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Thursday, 14 October 2010 11:44 (thirteen years ago) link

zombie apocalypse is a great canvas for right wing/nra/libertarian types to express their i-told-you-so-liberal-faggits wish fullment on and i thought the books veered close to this territory too often for my reading comfort.

MAX NOT FOR MOD (Roberto Spiralli), Thursday, 14 October 2010 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I really meant to ask, "does it end?" as in "is this series going to be 5 or so seasons of awesome shit all heading towards a conclusion or is it just going to dither on and on?"

This is my fear about the show as well...I know the comic goes on forever, shows like this don't seem to work when they are completely open ended and aren't headed towards any type of conclusion.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Thursday, 14 October 2010 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, what makes the comic (and in turn the show) so risky is that there is no conclusion to head toward. Most of the planet is dead or undead. What resolution could possibly occur? The only thing I can think of is some sort of "the children offer hope for the future" ending, because what else can they do?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 October 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Why do people hate the comic but expect this to be good? Should I not even ask?

because i'm pretty sure kirkman has no idea how human relationships work, and everything reads like teenage melodrama. any writer would be an improvement.

the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Thursday, 14 October 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

also torture porn

thomp, Thursday, 14 October 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

yyyyyeah, that sequence is not cool.

Brick Frog! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 October 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link

that must have been after i stopped reading (which was, i don't know, somewhere in the 20s?)

the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

You talking about Michonne and The Governor?

not Morbius old, but still (Phil D.), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i presume. that's like season two or three material though, really.

Brick Frog! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't read the comic (but there are pretty convincing criticisms itt) but we bought the iTunes season pass for the show ($10 - cheap!) and I'm excited. The trailer looks pretty creepy.

Regular Stormy (Jenny), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

i liked the first few books i guess

but the trailer for this looked pretty shitty dudes

guanciale diary (s1ocki), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

No, it looked creepy. Didn't you read what I just posted?

Regular Stormy (Jenny), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

oh shit - sorry

guanciale diary (s1ocki), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

np

Regular Stormy (Jenny), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah the trailer was promising

the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

what an embarrassment for slocki

the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

it will be an embarrassment for YOU when the show comes out and is lame

guanciale diary (s1ocki), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

then everyone will be like oh sorry slocki and i will be like whatever and just walk right by you w/o even making eye contact

guanciale diary (s1ocki), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha

F-Unit (Ste), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

that will be because you are a zombie.

Brick Frog! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

ya, because i made myself a real zombie because the tv version was so lame

guanciale diary (s1ocki), Thursday, 14 October 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Gnawing out your own brains in protest at terrible television is the new "I'm mad as hell and..."

fill in the viewer's desire to know what happens NEXT, and then NEXT, and then NEXT--how peoploe keep on living in the world post-zombie apocalypse, as opposed to the few days/weeks that a film can show.

If it does this at all well, then I will love it. I am fascinated by just how people are supposed to get by and live their lives under extreme circumstances, and the accommodations they have to make in order to have any order at all. What kind of barter springs up? What turns out to be useful? That kind of thing.

trishyb, Thursday, 14 October 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

early fanboy reviews are worthless.

george pimpton (s1ocki), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL

Regular Stormy (Jenny), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

the LOLing dead

george pimpton (s1ocki), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I would prob watch that, too.

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Leaked

Black Arkestra, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Zombies have an unfortunate tendency to do that.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

watching THE COLONY, discovery channel's "survivor: apocalypse" reality show, and i keep expecting zombies to stagger around the corner

some droopy HOOS in makeup (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa ep one of this was absolutely fantastic...blown away.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 29 October 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't raise my expectations please. OK? Thanks!

musicfanatic, Friday, 29 October 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

First ep was pretty solid IMO, they get the "origin" shit over and done without too much trouble while throwing in a few nice details. Closing song is pretty WTF though.

Simon H., Friday, 29 October 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, just watched this. surprisingly fucking good tbqh.

circa1916, Saturday, 30 October 2010 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah sorry to raise expectations! Basically I felt it was v good dramatically, v tense, managed to make the events feel sad/disturbing, and looked great. The zombies behave and look far far better than say 28 Days Later.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 30 October 2010 08:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Ladies just can't learn to turn off a damn light or not to take sentimental mementos instead of survival supplies, amirite?

Melissa W, Monday, 1 November 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link

What I expected, especially after watching the 4 minute episode 1 preview
but I liked it all the same.

Here's hoping this series is a long good zombie movie

popular music is destroying our youth (CaptainLorax), Monday, 1 November 2010 04:04 (thirteen years ago) link

This was v v satisfying
also, my girlfriend tends to leave the lights on
and she spent large chunks of this telling me when she could look

a pun based on a popular ilx meme (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 November 2010 04:45 (thirteen years ago) link

First two seasons were pretty ropey but season 3 was a marked improvement and season 4 has been pretty good so far.

It's no Wire obviously but is much, much better than TWD and actually has some characters I care about.

groovypanda, Thursday, 3 May 2018 13:35 (five years ago) link

i got through the first season and maybe watched one or two of season two and i'd had it.

scott seward, Thursday, 3 May 2018 13:35 (five years ago) link

This season has been interesting as there's a couple of new characters and also one from TWD.

groovypanda, Thursday, 3 May 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link

rufus and i were talking about how sad it was on the walking dead when the zombies become annoyances like mosquitoes and were no longer scary and how this basically started in season 7. just another reason why the show is so sad now.

i mean everyone still alive is good at killing them and living with them but still...they are so benign.

scott seward, Thursday, 3 May 2018 13:41 (five years ago) link

I've always thought that was one of the best takes on zombies. The Tom Savini remake of "Night of the Living Dead" I want to say even makes a big point that the zombies are easy to outrun. That's the genius of the slow zombie model: it's stupid decisions and other people that often pose the biggest problems. This show messed up by making everyone a bunch of dumb mopes seemingly unable to leave their five square miles of land.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 May 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link

I hated the characters/casting on Fear TWD (based on the first two seasons). Did everyone die? Is that why it became better?

Yerac, Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link

There's not many of the original​ cast left now, yes.

groovypanda, Thursday, 3 May 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

Does FEAR still have the guy with the amazing voice? the one whose boat they escaped on at the end of S1?

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 4 May 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link

Oh yeah, that guy was the only character I liked. ^^^

Yerac, Friday, 4 May 2018 00:44 (five years ago) link

Same here.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 4 May 2018 02:47 (five years ago) link

He's still in the show.

Vernon Locke, Friday, 4 May 2018 05:59 (five years ago) link

This show messed up by making everyone a bunch of dumb mopes seemingly unable to leave their five square miles of land.

you can basically track the demise of the show to that episode when eugene revealed he was lying about the zombie cure. losing all hope and descending into violent neighbourhood squabbles is probably what would really happen (if they didn’t all just neck themselves — honestly who wouldn’t after all they’ve been through) and certainly cheaper to produce, but it’s remarkably boring television.

karl wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 11:13 (five years ago) link

They spend way too long shooting so many bullets and panning across sweaty faces and not enough time having normal conversations that would clear up a lot of issues.

Yerac, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link

its so artless now. there is nothing cool to look at. everyone just stands around not saying anything. my fave characters have become pointless. and i figure they'll just keep making it as long as it makes money. you would think everyone in it would be so tired of doing it. unless they are all becoming insanely rich off of it.

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link

I think they're managing to get by

Rick Grimes has been a main character on The Walking Dead since the very beginning and while that makes Andrew Lincoln one of the top-billed cast members on the show, as of the show's sixth season Lincoln has only made around $92,000 per episode. With each episode taking around eight days to film, Lincoln's total season income would come to just under $1.5 million. However, recent reports have indicated that Lincoln may have received a raise for seasons seven and eight, bringing him to around $618,000 per episode and up to par with other cable series stars.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link

"only"

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 10 May 2018 00:17 (five years ago) link

***Spoilers for those watching Fear the Walking Dead (anybody?)***

you would think everyone in it would be so tired of doing it.

That'd be Frank Dillane.

Vernon Locke, Thursday, 10 May 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

I was about to watch the last episode from last season and then pick up with the new season. From reading reviews though, this seems like a bad idea and I should just really let it go.

Yerac, Monday, 5 November 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link

I stopped watching years ago but from what hear it really does seem like this show is just a bunch of delaying until they can dramatically kill off a character from season one or two.

President Keyes, Monday, 5 November 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

So I still watch this out of stubborn habit and it was kind of crazy how while watching last night my stereo came on by itself and started playing my favorite Jesus and Mary Chain song at full blast.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 04:58 (five years ago) link

The Hardest Walk? I am going to pick it up once I have exhausted every other show.

Yerac, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 12:48 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFfLm6Ax3ss

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

I don't think I've watched much of this since around season 2, but apparently it's begun its final season? Weirdly curious about how a presumably endless narrative ends. I wonder if they'll just pull a "The Birds" and have all the zombies just die (again) and end on a "what now?" note.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 August 2021 13:12 (two years ago) link

So this shows been running for what 15 years at least?

Bach on harmonica! (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 23 August 2021 15:11 (two years ago) link

Never watched it but I'm going to guess that it finishes similar to the big 'lol' moment at the end of The Mist, and the main character looks at the camera breaking the fourth wall with an 'oops, waddya gonna do' shrug.

Diggin Holes (Ste), Monday, 23 August 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link

Final LONG TWD collection #32 synopsis here. Jumped off with Negan, so only see TWD commercials, but since they've done the Whisperers and I saw Princess has shown up, assume it'll follow the trades in broad strokes.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 23 August 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link


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