Friday the 13th: Jason Goes to POLL

but kinda simultaneously awesome

"dying teenager" movies really lack the eccentricity of these films. So bland and wacky poplocker-free...

"dying teenager" movies today, I mean

one negative side of Scream-into-Scary-Movie is that the wackiness and the horror are now kept pretty separate in mainstream stuff. Back in the day actual Jason would have punched the head off a guy who was Soulja-Boy-esque. Now Jason kills Ambercrombie models while a guy actually playing Soulja Boy gets his head punched off in JASON'S STUPID.

1
rest are filth

this thread inspired me to watch the F13th re-boot. had to turn it off about 2/3 way through. honestly probably the worst of the bunch. besides being exceptionally bland and populated by beautiful young men and women who look almost identical, you've got a thinking Jason who sets clever little traps and has a secret underground lair. i expect these movies to be bad, but fuck, at least make Jason the Big Dumb Jason that we grew up with.

1 and 4 had the Savina treatment. I think 4 is the canonical choice amongst the nerds. Will not disagree.

Savini*

Part 3 was on TV last night - lolled at victim reading Fangoria, specifically an article about TOM Savini

Watched the original again the other night just for grins. I had forgotten that they actually killed a real snake on screen. Assholes.

Tie between 4 and "goes to hell."

they stand so much higher than the rest

The TV edit of the girl in the tent being cut in half from Goes to Hell was a real treat. Making out a bit then blood on the dude's face and that was it.

IV is the best, and features the most sympathetic characters, too. Lots of innocent folks on the periphery just trying to get by. VI is the funniest (on purpose). Which is the one with the not terribly graphic but pretty horrible sleeping bag death? VII? Yep, VII:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRJWz8QO8ag

Dunno what it says that one of the less graphic kills was one of the most infamously censored scenes.

Uncut VII scenes (with commentary) here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZMWBszkx68&feature=related

Sleeping bag kill the best ever, any slasher.

Part VI by far! Why hasn't anybody given that one any love? CJ Graham wasn't as good as Jason as Kane Hodder, but it's the one where they figured out that the series was funny, not scary, and proceeded accordingly. Some of the best kills, an awesome Alice Cooper song, and one of the most spectacularly idiotic character resurrections in movie history -- it's a winner.

The rest kind of suck, although the first and seventh have their moments. Part IV is boring, the guy who played Jason sucked, and the kills weren't very clever. The primary reason it's notable is because of Corey Feldman and Crispin Glover, but that's really it.

this series is way more dependable than Nightmare, btw

That's just empirically false. Nightmare has three great films in the series (the first, third, and New Nightmare), part 4 is somewhat entertaining (and directed by Renny Harlin and written by Academy award winner Brian Helgeland), and part 2 is brilliantly campy. Parts five and six are the only out and out stinkers.

part 4 is somewhat entertaining

This is underselling it by several miles. If nothing else, it has Heather Langenkamp's "Just The Ten Of Us" co-star Brooke Thiess being turned into a cockroach. It also has a very cool "time loop" scene.

it doesn't really hang together as a film, but it does have some of the most creative dream sequences. The showdown with Friday at the end is pretty great.

Back in the day actual Jason would have punched the head off a guy who was Soulja-Boy-esque. Now Jason kills Ambercrombie models while a guy actually playing Soulja Boy gets his head punched off in JASON'S STUPID.

Still trying to parse this.

voted Jason X, only because an acquaintance of mine is in it and has the first death (and the scene with Cronenberg).

Back in the day actual Jason would have punched the head off a guy who was Soulja-Boy-esque. Now Jason kills Ambercrombie models while a guy actually playing Soulja Boy gets his head punched off in JASON'S STUPID.

Still trying to parse this.

Sorry, basically I'm just saying that instead of gross dead teenager movies with a wacky side, you have humorless gross dead teenager movies and wacky parodies of gross dead teenager movies.

Okay, I thought that was what you were getting at and I totally agree, I just got lost somewhere in that second sentence. Might just be my lack of sleep this weekend tho.

it did just hit me that to mourn this evolution you have to wistfully recall movies like The Dream Warriors.

The fourth Nightmare is pretty great overall.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Uh which one is the one with Jason in space killing all this space people on a spacestation and if thats not an option I can choose, why not?

Jason X

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

gotta say I love that pop locking youtube
if I ever write a horror movie I think there will have to be a madatory pop locking scene

wow so Part 2 is *good* then?

I think the end of #1 would have been cooler if he jumped all the way out of the lake like a dolphin
but I guess I still like the ending

the longevity/persistence of this franchise is really some kind of small miracle given how uniformly stupid and poorly made these movies are

Wtf 2 sucks animal

it's funny though, nothing about the original F13 suggests "major movie franchise to come". Obviously they wanted it to catch fire given the ending, but the entire film screams "off-brand slasher flick", right down to the non-descript, hokey looking "Friday the 13th" font on the title screen.

it's not a great film by any means, but it's the kind of scuzzy slasher film I have grown to like. it doesn't have the inventive world-building or mythos of Elm Street, it's poorly paced at times, but it's pretty well-shot and has some great visuals and I still enjoy it.

saw it last night in an old-fashioned theatre and at least 10 people shrieked when Jason's corpse jumps out of the water. that kind of made my night. manipulative jump scare, sure, but one of my fav usages of it.

the longevity/persistence of this franchise is really some kind of small miracle given how uniformly stupid and poorly made these movies are

― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, October 17, 2012 4:15 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

particularly since it took them a sequel to even introduce the version of the franchise character that everybody knows today, and the three films to give him his hockey mask. it's as if NOES began with Peggy Krueger killing people in dreams, and Freddy shows up in NOES2 wearing a beanie and a "where's the beef" t-shirt.

*watches IV again cos he's bored*

20-something male: Naw, I can't come in.
12 year old Cory Feldman: Aw, you gotta come in. I've got something really neat to show you in my room (*grab's stranger's hand, runs upstairs with him in front of horrified looking mother*)

https://m.popkey.co/e528fb/l4bN_f-maxage-0_s-200x150.gif

lol at Crispin Glover putting on "Love is a Lie" by Lion as makeout music

dear lord for a 90 minute movie that felt like Gunga Din. ooooh Jason has met his match, a young kid into horror and masks, defeated by....him shaving his head to remind him of himself and hitting him hard with a machete? ooook.

I'm gonna watch VI just for shits and giggles, skipping V.

(Gunga Din in length, that is)

when i went through these a few years ago i came away thinking 1 and 4 are the best. 1 has this really specific atmosphere to it that they basically never try for again. a lot of it's the rain

i legit love 4 bc idk cory feldman's narrative in that movie is for some reason super compelling to me and also there's batshit crispin glover

3!

Cheesy 80s 3D shots.

Cheesy 80s bikers.

Mask appears.

The goofy self-aware stuff hadn't creeped in yet. It still feels like a lean, mean-spirited exploitation film.

just watched VI. it was fun.

"what WERE you gonna be when you grew up?"

Yeah, one of my all-time favorite lines!

1=low-budget boilerplate
2=boring, half-flashback
3=inept mess. Lots of action in a tool-filled barn?
4=my fave, good Savini FX, sort of scary-ish (for the series) at times?
5=pointless, no Jason, sort of the Psycho II of the series.
6=funny, self-aware. I read the novelization (!) when I was little. Chops off the heads of three paintballers at once?
7=can't remember. Telekinetic girl? Does this one have the sleeping bag kill?
8=NYC? A complete POS. Shot in Vancouver?
9=Goes to hell? Only one I saw in theaters. Some dude eats a heart and turns into Jason? It does have a clever opening scene.
10=space. Never saw it.
11=vs. Freddy? Is this the one directed by a Hong Kong guy? Want to say I saw it but barely remember it. Battle in a corn field?
Reboot: really cool opening conceit, don't remember the rest. (Want to say My Bloody Valentine reboot had a similar opening conceit?)

how bad do these parents gotta hate their kids to keep sending them to this damn camp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvVNfQDXnPo

I was half watching these things last week with the sibs while drinking beer and after spending the day at Disney World. Pretty much the optimal way to see them, imo. The depictions of city life in Manhattan are spectacularly hilarious (the heroine is kidnapped and shot up with heroin within minutes of the protagonists making landfall).

i just watched them all except for freddy v jason and imo:

6
4
1
2
goes to hell (i can't believe this movie exists)
x
manhattan
7
reboot
5
3

this series is way more dependable than Nightmare, btw

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, October 24, 2010 3:53 PM (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's just empirically false. Nightmare has three great films in the series (the first, third, and New Nightmare), part 4 is somewhat entertaining (and directed by Renny Harlin and written by Academy award winner Brian Helgeland), and part 2 is brilliantly campy. Parts five and six are the only out and out stinkers.

― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Sunday, October 24, 2010 4:06 PM (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whiney from 6 years ago is right, there's an evenness to this series that nightmare does not manage, and characterizing nightmare 2 as "brilliantly campy" is giving a shitty movie with some gay parts wayyy too much credit

*half the county has been brutally murdered*

Sheriff: I can't believe Tommy Jarvis would do this.