AMC zombie series from Frank 'Majestic' Darabont - The Walking Dead

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watching THE COLONY, discovery channel's "survivor: apocalypse" reality show, and i keep expecting zombies to stagger around the corner

some droopy HOOS in makeup (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa ep one of this was absolutely fantastic...blown away.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 29 October 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't raise my expectations please. OK? Thanks!

musicfanatic, Friday, 29 October 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

First ep was pretty solid IMO, they get the "origin" shit over and done without too much trouble while throwing in a few nice details. Closing song is pretty WTF though.

Simon H., Friday, 29 October 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, just watched this. surprisingly fucking good tbqh.

circa1916, Saturday, 30 October 2010 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah sorry to raise expectations! Basically I felt it was v good dramatically, v tense, managed to make the events feel sad/disturbing, and looked great. The zombies behave and look far far better than say 28 Days Later.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 30 October 2010 08:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Ladies just can't learn to turn off a damn light or not to take sentimental mementos instead of survival supplies, amirite?

Melissa W, Monday, 1 November 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link

What I expected, especially after watching the 4 minute episode 1 preview
but I liked it all the same.

Here's hoping this series is a long good zombie movie

popular music is destroying our youth (CaptainLorax), Monday, 1 November 2010 04:04 (thirteen years ago) link

This was v v satisfying
also, my girlfriend tends to leave the lights on
and she spent large chunks of this telling me when she could look

a pun based on a popular ilx meme (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 November 2010 04:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Very well done. Nothing surprising or new, but the sniping the wife/killing the crawling torso scene was great.

Also, I'm totally going to judge rural deputy sheriffs for having backward views on women. Turning it off in disgust.

And yeah, women be grabbin' the photo albums. It's The Simpsons Movie all over again.

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Monday, 1 November 2010 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link

xp, lol, people getting scared to horror

popular music is destroying our youth (CaptainLorax), Monday, 1 November 2010 05:08 (thirteen years ago) link

It was okay, not particularly mind blowing. Hopefully there will be enough deviation from the comics that I won't have a sense of having seen this all before.

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 1 November 2010 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Loved it. Though honestly, Sheriff Egg have you watched no zombie movies? Sheesh. DONT GO INTO THE CITY. (Sherriff was Egg in 'This Life' in the longago...hence Sheriff Egg)

Had long nerd discussion with Mr Veg over car vs horse in zombieworld...I was pro horse, well until I remembered the whole lunch on legs thing, doh.

Greg Nicotero special effects ftw.

That little girl headshot in the opening scene was Assault on Precinct 13-level cold-bloodedness.
I approve.

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 1 November 2010 06:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I assume that the horse was previously able to run away from danger?

Anyway, this show rules.

macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Monday, 1 November 2010 06:47 (thirteen years ago) link

haven't read the comics. the story was pretty meat and potatoes, but i thought this was executed wonderfully. very atmospheric. definitely was way more into this than anything zombie-related i've seen in years. altogether a very solid pilot.

few issues: 1. yeah, that song at the end. 2. guy at the farmhouse who for some reason decided to write GOD FORGIVE US on the wall with blood of the wife he just shot?

circa1916, Monday, 1 November 2010 06:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Driving home from my friend's house through empty streets was fun.

macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Monday, 1 November 2010 06:48 (thirteen years ago) link

How long was Rick in a coma? Wouldn't it take a while for zombies to overtake the world, since they are not a particularly fast moving bunch? Maybe this is answered in the comic, but I was just curious.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Monday, 1 November 2010 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe europe is fine

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 1 November 2010 12:20 (thirteen years ago) link

liked it, but still worried it's going to fellow the comic's descent into melodrama

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 1 November 2010 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

oh most definitely
writing is not mad men/breaking bad level at all
but melodrama is the fuel this thing runs on

a pun based on a popular ilx meme (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 November 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link

One would hope, having the spine of a larger story from the comic book, they can work out how to improve on its faults. Of course, I don't know about Darabont's chops in this regard. I worry that HOLLYWOOD names dazzle execs into not questioning the showrunning skills.

Anyways, if it stays a quality piece of genre and nothing more, it would be a shame but I'd be alright with that.

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Monday, 1 November 2010 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

the comic's rhythm was long periods of being off-balance, then an island of calm for about half as long, then everybody loses everything and a few people die and we're off balance and on the move again, then an island of calm
repeat ad nauseum.
if the show can do this without turning into zombie groundhog day and always keep the stakes high (and if that kid can act; that kid has GOT to be able to act) this should be able to hold my attention for as long as it takes for michonne to show up and for this to become the action movie I assume it's ultimately aiming for

a pun based on a popular ilx meme (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 November 2010 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Simply must download this tonight. I'm totally geeked for this.

kenan, Monday, 1 November 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link

this was great. things I liked the best: letting the main character be totally vulnerable/scared shitless. sympathy for zombies. lols at zombies. the loyal horse companion. only thing I didn't: the wife side story.

String Yr BLOBs (bnw), Monday, 1 November 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i agree it's not really on the level of mad men or breaking bad, but hard to imagine how this plot would hit those levels anyway. i just think it's dramatically really exciting, and so i can imagine v easily looking forward to it each week.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 1 November 2010 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link

happy to hear this from the A/V club review:
"It's been made clear that it will feature new characters that don't appear in the book, eliminate ones that do, and follow the plots and stories of the comic only insofar as it suits the arc of the series."

a pun based on a popular ilx meme (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 November 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, cutting to the wife and that scrappy band of survivors was a bit jarring considering the mood that was set before. It had to happen, I guess, but that "twist" was pretty cliché. xxpost

Zombie and apocalypse drama is a pretty rich vein for really great drama. I'd like to see it do something more than just AAGH ZOMBIES and hopefully avoid the "WE are the real enemy" as much as possible.

From the preview I saw ages ago, I remember thinking that little girl ran, so I was happy to see she just moved a little briskly. Slow zombies>>>>>>>>>>>Fast zombies.

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Monday, 1 November 2010 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

How long was Rick in a coma? Wouldn't it take a while for zombies to overtake the world,

When they're taking showers at the police station, Morgan says, "The gas lines have been off for a couple of months."

Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Monday, 1 November 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

He would have been in a coma for a while before that happened though, since everything was fine when he got shot.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Monday, 1 November 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

That crawling half-zombie was O_O

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 1 November 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Haven't seen this yet but have read the comix, and hoping they cut out the psycho armchair ninja lady with a sword. Clearly they like her, because she's lasted this long in the books, but she always struck me as more than a little ridiculous (see also: blind guy vs. zombies in "World War Z").

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 November 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

That crawling half-zombie was O_O

I was feeling for that poor zombie, it was way more sad than scary.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Monday, 1 November 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Scary first time around, sad when he shot it..special effects makeup etc on it were A+++

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 1 November 2010 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

the zombies look and act in a way that's a lot more interesting than lots of other zombie tv/films

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 1 November 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, there's a remnant of their living selves still in their faces/behavior somehow, I really like it

Also like the violence of the zombie killings...pretty impressive for basic cable. The one scene where the sheriff blew away the deputy guy up against the chainlink gate..wow

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 1 November 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah it's v full on. and i agree yeah, it's weird how they sort of seem still human somehow, moreso than i dunno, something like 28 days later.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 1 November 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

They really played up that human remnant with Morgan's wife. Nothing malevolent in her face at all, just confusion and a weird tinge of sadness. They also (thankfully) never went for the clichéd "she seems so human" and then WHAM she attacks.

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Monday, 1 November 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

It helped that the wife really didn't look very zombiefied...just kind of drugged/out of it.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Monday, 1 November 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link

How long was Rick in a coma? Wouldn't it take a while for zombies to overtake the world,

When they're taking showers at the police station, Morgan says, "The gas lines have been off for a couple of months."

― Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Monday, 1 November 2010 15:09 (1 hour ago)

actually says "for maybe a month".

circa1916, Monday, 1 November 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah nicole otm, i couldn't help but think of drugs/alcoholism or something with that whole "she looks like herself but isn't" vibe.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 1 November 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

She kinda looks like Michael's crackhead mom from The Wire.

macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Monday, 1 November 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Was that Tara's mom from True Blood?

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 1 November 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

i gotta say the standards for tv-14 are getting stretched to the limit here imo

omar little, Monday, 1 November 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't understand how they got away with some of this stuff but edited the Friday the 13th movies down so much.

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Monday, 1 November 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

How long was Rick in a coma?

my guess is probably 28 days?

kinda surprised at the positive reactions here. maybe I've seen too many innovative zombie flicks in the past year (and there have been a bunch recently) but the walking dead didn't bring one new thing to the table. every aspect of the zombies seem to be lifted from romero, coma guy waking up to the apocalypse is from 28 days later, even the "living with your loved ones as zombies" stuff is in the dawn of the dead remake.

I guess all that wouldn't matter as much if the characters were interesting, or the script was on point, but everything seemed workmanlike and perfunctory. my wife's verdict at the halfway point was "this is neither interesting nor scary". then she fell asleep.

the sexism in the opening scene was kinda o_O. you can say, hey they're smalltown cops, but guess what, smalltown cops tend to be kinda racist, too. and later the same character has to talk some sense into a hysterical women, so it seems like the show's totally down with lol dumb broads...

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Monday, 1 November 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

coma guy waking up to the apocalypse is from 28 days later Day of the Triffids "28 Days Later" didn't exactly invent this gambit.

The opening scene, IMO, was just a clumsy setup for some misdirection. (At least for those who are watching this without having read the comics.) Shane talks about his arguments with his wife, then later on you see him arguing with this woman and figure, "Hey, at least he got away with his family," then they show LOL IT WAS RICK'S WIFE ALL ALONG U N00BZ!

Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Monday, 1 November 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess my expectations were lower? I'm happy to watch a series-long version of boilerplate zombie tropes.

macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Monday, 1 November 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Zombies are zombies...the tropes are tropes bc they're zombies, it's not like they can be not undead. It's how they are used, it's only 1 episode and so far its creepy, bloody and interesting enough to keep me interested

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 1 November 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

true, and if the walking dead borrowed from a semi-obscure 60s monster movie I'd be more forgiving, but it's borrowing from one of the most famous zombie films of the past decade so

xxp

mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Monday, 1 November 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

i think romero-style zombies are a generic, public domain archetype at this point.

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 1 November 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link


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