AMC zombie series from Frank 'Majestic' Darabont - The Walking Dead

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of course i've heard such a wide variety of batshit ridiculous southern accents in my day that they don't really bother me. i remember everyone crowing about how bad Ewan MacGregor's was in Big Fish but I've met old guys that talk just like that so I'm pretty forgiving.

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link

problem is that its cunty ooooh crying men films frank darabont in charge. if they gave it to someone like marti noxon (of buffy/mad men fame) this would be AWESOME.

You could have a point. I think he's going to be fine in the long run, and the "ooooh crying men" bits of the pilot didn't work for anyone who tried them.

kenan, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:19 (thirteen years ago) link

this season is only 6 episodes so I don't see the harm in seeing it through.

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:19 (thirteen years ago) link

oh ok, never knew it was british tv short, will stick with it.

O holy ruler of ILF (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Visually, I thought the pilot was very well directed. Loved the way he could generate tension just by dollying behind a tree, just a little bit too slowly.

kenan, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link

The scene where the sheriff zombie gets shot, and the camera is locked, from the headshot through him falling out of frame. Nice.

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I loved the hands trying to grab onto the fence in that scene.

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes!

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Some of the visual effects were cheesy/bad CGI - the back of zombies heads exploding, etc..

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh come on

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:42 (thirteen years ago) link

That's kind of the norm in tv and film these days though.

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:43 (thirteen years ago) link

really, didn't hurt The Departed.

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:43 (thirteen years ago) link

or Zodiac etc etc etc

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:43 (thirteen years ago) link

It's not the idea of the explosive gore that bothered me, but the execution - the actual effects were badly done, IMO - the chunks of skull you can see and the way they move just looked fake. Reminded me of some of the crappier effects in The Mist, actually.

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Really?

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:50 (thirteen years ago) link

If it follows the plot of the comics at all then we have a lot more "ooooh crying men" bits to look forward to.

Hatch, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:53 (thirteen years ago) link

If that's what you think then cool but damn this thread feels like it's getting really challops-y really quickly.

I thought the effects and the directing were the high notes of the show, a show which I pretty much enjoyed all round. Zombies! A tv show about zombies! That's pretty freaking good! It's like Christmas up in here and you're all complaining about the quality of the wrapping paper! Agh!

You're bumming me out, guys.

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry.

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 05:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Pro tip: Ignore these assholes! :-)

macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link

"The exploding heads looked so fake! And believe me, I've seen dozens of heads explode in my day, lemme tell you whut,"

kenan, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 07:32 (thirteen years ago) link

gore was great throughout! dunno what anyone's complaining about in that regard. loved the bike girl, various shamblers & gnawed corpses, slo-mo headshots, etc. little girl zombie getting wasted in the intro knocked me for a loop. very pleased that it stuck to traditional zombie flick values in that regard. effectively suspenseful and sometimes even scary ("DON'T OPEN DEAD INSIDE"), with tight but leisurely direction/editing and decent character building.

didn't love it though. felt like a setup for a long, tiresome melodrama about characters i didn't much like (two male leads, especially) more than a proper horror flick. and i kept wanting to quibble about trivialities - a sign of at least partial disengagement. why was the blood splattered around inside the hospital still fresh red, and not dry brown? why were the hospital interiors appropriate to a modern hospital, while the exterior seemed to be an ancient and poorly maintained industrial building? and how does mere "infection" allow the continued mobility of something as annihilated as bike girl?

geek minutia aside, the gender dynamics bothered me, too. not a lot, but at least a little. okay, so it's just gross guy talk at the beginning, fine. but throughout the episode, women were badmouthed, absent, or bossed around. post-apocalyptic sci-fi often seems to revel in the "naturally ordained" real-man's world that will supposedly emerge when civilization collapses, and TWD at least flirts with that. then again, it's just a first episode. be interesting to see how things shake out.

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 09:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I think your last paragraph is what I was (perhaps inarticulately) trying to get at.

Melissa W, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 09:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I was more struck by the dynamic in the tent btwn best friend and wife than in the first scene.

kenan, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 09:11 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ agreed. "you are my woman, and no matter what silly ideas you get in your head, you're going to abide by the rules i set for your own good."

"okay. luv you."

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 09:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm guessing that where this is going is that the dude's a huge dick. Good guys don't bang your wife.

kenan, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm guessing he's proved many times how to keep her the fuck alive in a world ruled by KILLER ZOMBIES

O holy ruler of ILF (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

well he is a police officer, he's trained to fire weapons etc. that more than his gender suggests he prob is pretty good to take orders from. even if he is obv a total dick.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 10:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Loved the show. This thread is going to suck though

Jeff, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link

already does

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

otm

I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 12:37 (thirteen years ago) link

here's a zombie question i got for ya. this applies to pretty much every movie or whatever i've seen about them.

if when zombies sense people their impulse is to head over and eat them and tear them apart until there's nothing left, where do new zombies come from?

community sort of addressed that last week when the zombies bit troy and he was all like "okay, you bit me, i get it, that's what zombies do" and shrugged them off

candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 12:39 (thirteen years ago) link

and how does mere "infection" allow the continued mobility of something as annihilated as bike girl?

this criticism is bullshit though. THATS WHAT HAPPENS IN ZOMBIE MOVIES.

candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 12:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Nothing but a head shot kills a zombie. Who doesn't already know this?

kenan, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

a lot of people in atlanta iirc

candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

isn't it a case of

Secluded cases ppl think is illness > biting fam but overpowerable (that's not a word surely) so not a case of absolute death > people in the street able to escape the slow/stupid zombies with just a bite/scratch > fuck loads of zombies then can wile out on anyone > end times

never thought there would be a case of new gen of zombies in any zombie story i've ever seen, always ends with end times. also while that was obviously a lot of people in atlanta at the end, it wasn't exactly a whole fucking city of people, most people are dead.

O holy ruler of ILF (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

ya i guess a lot of them are bite-and-runs

candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link

thought the show was fantastic. loved it.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

get out

candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

felt it failed to highlight the current crisis facing burma

I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

What about elephants
Have we lost their trust

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link

the reality today is that 33 per cent more horses die year on year due to showjumping/flatracing injuries than being rended limb from limb by a gigantic crowd of zombies. now call me cynical, but i doubt this show will ever mention that stat.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I for one am disgusted by the show's blatant anti-horse agenda.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

show is speciesist

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

a horse uses an immeasurable amount less gas than a military tank, and can later be recycled as food for zombies. and yet this show sends out the message, bold as brass, jump in your gas guzzling tank, you'll be safe there!

I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

It was incredibly speciesist to portray horses as being so easily spooked by zombies. I'll bet none of the writers are even horses, let alone horse riders.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Are we on for a zombie horse next ep d'y think?

SoftDog (MaresNest), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link

no doubt it won't be a stallion

I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

and how does mere "infection" allow the continued mobility of something as annihilated as bike girl?

this criticism is bullshit though. THATS WHAT HAPPENS IN ZOMBIE MOVIES.

― candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, November 2, 2010 8:40 AM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark

think you're missing contenderizer's point here, he's not criticizing the show for lack of scientific veracity when it comes to zombie infection, he's criticizing it for being so slow and disengaging that he started questioning stupid stuff. which I understand, because I had the exact same reaction. I was like, why aren't there a fuckton of zombie dogs, pigs, and horses running around?

the american car is a bus and a car for all americans (Edward III), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link


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