exploding zombie heads and long closeups of crawling zombies and buzzing flies over blackened corpse feet = LURVE imo
― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
wow kinda suprised to see so many people down on this show - i watch lots of crazo horror stuff and yeah most of it might be a little more edgy and OTT and better in many ways than this, but im still down with the "HOLY SHIT A GORY ZOMBIE MINISERIES ON THE TV AWESOME" reaction tbh.
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
esp considering that like 99% of TV horror attempts have been unmitigatedly fucking awful
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
^
― kenan, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
no idea what the comix are like, but i am hoping this goes in the direction of... deadwood!
hours and hours of survival horror is not interesting, and lost-style soapy shit among the survivors isn't either. but people figuring out how to live with each other and build ad-hoc institutions of stability in extreme circumstances is super interesting imo
any chance of that?
― Mannsplain Steamroller (goole), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link
thats my hope, but i havent read the comics either.
part of my optimism tho is that a miniseries or series or whatever handled right could totally fulfill that long arc post societal breakdown/rebuilding in a way that zombie movies never ever can - all respect to the dawn/day of the dead stuff or 28 days/weeks, but commenting on it isnt the same as showing it happen.
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I read a little bit of a current issue of the comic and it involved a lot of people on a farm standing around and yelling at each other
― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
about leaving the toilet seat up or down, I'm sure.
― kenan, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
also peeps saying the gore/FX aren't up to par may i please direct you to another comparable low tier cable network called SYFY which should maybe change yer feelings about that.
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
i think the gore is good
i dont think the fact that it is a zombie show alone is reason enough to give it a pass... i mean, i like zombie movies but it's not like they're exactly underrepresented in pop culture
― candid gamera (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link
dreading the inevitable mummy movie renaissance
― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Brendan Frazier did well enough with that already, imo.
― kenan, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Sorry, Fraser.
― kenan, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link
no one ever has to apologize to brendan fraser
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Dug the pilot. The creators obviously saw 28 Days Later and played Left 4 Dead, but I was surprised how well the pacing and effects came out. I don't know why but I had an optimism about this too, it seems like a good medium for the ongoing story.
I read some of the comic too, but gave up after a few volumes, it just got too relentlessly depressing - seemed like they were just going to go from one shitty situation to another every volume. Also as said, the art wasn't very good. I never even got to the samurai character.
hours and hours of survival horror is not interesting, and lost-style soapy shit among the survivors isn't either. but people figuring out how to live with each other and build ad-hoc institutions of stability in extreme circumstances is super interesting imoany chance of that?
― Nhex, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
The creators obviously saw 28 Days Later - Even tho the initial premise is basically the same (man wakes up in hospital to find himself seemingly alone in post-apocalyptic wasteland), but the graphic novel this show is based on was published in 2003, the same year 28DL was released, so the similarity is likely a coincidence.
― so imagen what we can do with the rest of our brain...right buddy's?? (Pillbox), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link
If not a trope in itself.
― kenan, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link
there is a quote in the middle of this thread where the creator talks about how 28DL came out the month before the first issue of this was published
― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link
And isn't it just an example of a literary device which thrusts the reader/viewer directly into the post zombie apocalypse world, and provides at least one story arc for later on; namely, HOW THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN?
I'm trying to think of another setting in which this could apply - waking up after the mid-term election results come in? Blacking out at a party, and waking up with no clothes on?
― Sauvignon Blanc Mange (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_medias_res
― just sayin, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link
such premises are easy (& often effective) devices, tropes etc., sure. And even tho zombie stories in general rely on so many other shared narrative similarities, it was still sort of uncanny that two 'zombie' stories, released within a month of each other, started with an an extended opening sequence w/ protagonists in nearly identical sets of circumstances.
― so imagen what we can do with the rest of our brain...right buddy's?? (Pillbox), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm aware it's not a fully unique idea, but they are really similar and they came out around the same time. Sure, it's possible when Kirkman wrote it he just had the same idea, it happens. According to WP, the first issue of The Walking Dead is dated October 2003, while 28 Days Later came out late 2002 in the UK and June '03 in the US. Regardless, I can't help but think the success of the movie impacted the current TV series. Even L4D, another property that uses a lot of old zombie tropes, seemed to influence this, with the general look, graffiti on the walls, lol no gas etc. (If the chopper pilot turns out to be a zombie...)
― Nhex, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Regarding the "28 Days Later" opening, Kirkman:"I saw 28 Days Later shortly before the first issue of Walking Dead was released. That first issue came out in October of 2003 and 28 Days Later was released in the States in June of 2003. So we were working on our second issue by the time I saw it. Yeah. It was a little annoying. But great minds think alike, right"― circa1916, Monday, November 1, 2010 3:17 PM
"I saw 28 Days Later shortly before the first issue of Walking Dead was released. That first issue came out in October of 2003 and 28 Days Later was released in the States in June of 2003. So we were working on our second issue by the time I saw it. Yeah. It was a little annoying. But great minds think alike, right"
― circa1916, Monday, November 1, 2010 3:17 PM
since ppl can't be bothered to read the middle of the thread
― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, but apparently they came out around the same time...
― candid gamera (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link
the dawn of the dead remake was on tv before this, and the end is both soooo corny (lol slow-motion shot of the clip falling out of a handgun) and so influential on L4D (that last shot of the four survivors getting on the board after escaping hoards of running zombies). still has a great opening though.
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link
it really is underrated. pales in comparison to the original, obv, but works pretty well as an action romp on its own. and yeah, that opening is A+
― No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
important to say it's an action picture though. fast moving zombies take away the horror imo*. it's most effective moments of dread involved large groups of zombies shuffling around.
*exception for me is the shot in Dead Set where the zombie sprints onto screen and goes to town on that Big Brother Employee on the console while that Mika song plays.
― No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link
the last last shot in the remake is cool
― candid gamera (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link
you mean the part after the credits?
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link
ya
― candid gamera (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think it's so much that it's "zombies on TV" that's cool, more that it's a serious attempt at serialized, straight-up horror on a network known for quality television - I'm not sure there's any precedent for that?
― Simon H., Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
im not sure why that's a big deal?
― candid gamera (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
...because new forms of TV don't spring up very often? I mean I guess there's (the similarly high-rated) True Blood but that appears to pretty much entirely camp.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link
btw if you think The Walking Dead is lackluster, wait till horror TV gets the Fox/NBC/ABC treatment.
there was that cbs show starring alex o'loughlin as a vampire...who is also a private detective!
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link
well there have been a couple of horror/procedural "hybrids" I guess, but that's not really the same thing.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link
That show was straight up hilarious though, albeit unintentionally.
― romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
what about that supernatural show? watched it a couple times and it seemed like hot crap, but it's pretty much straight-up horror television.
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
supernatural's more like a broody dude version of Buffy.
― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
what about buffy/angel?
OR THE GHOST WHISPERER YALL
― candid gamera (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Supernatural's horror, but it's tempered with melodrama and comedy. Same with Buffy. There's a place for that, but I think of it differently to what Walking Dead represents.
Walking Dead excites me because it's straight drama/horror, like what you would see in a movie. That's what my excitement is all about. Zombies! On TV! That aren't making witty comebacks, they're just being zombies. (Not that I don't love Buffy, or Angel, or a little bit of Supernatural every now and again).
― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link
next week 'the walking dead' introduces a witty british zombie named 'percy'
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
last network straight horror i remember was that "fear itself" thing which was one of the shittiest things foisted on the public in recent memory
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
how quickly we forget "Happy Town"
― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link
oh hahahaha wow yeah that happened didnt it
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
also: "Harper's Island"
― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
actually werent harpers island and fear itself concurrent?
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I think they were.
― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I only saw the commercials so as far as I'm concerned, IT NEVER HAPPENED
― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link
read the Wikipedia article for "Harper's Island", it is lolworthy
― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link