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Gaius = Britishes = Roman?

sometimes they're german or english doing german accents

um yeah there was this thing called the Roman Empire that the British Empire was rather deeply endebted to.

Gaius is the only Roman name on the show too, afaic

on rome all the romans have british accents

wait til you get to near the end of season 3, when Gaius goes all class warrior and starts fucking around with his accent

xp: every bit of sci fi since star wars has british accents, since in lazy(?) shorthand for an american audience, british accent = imperial

certain british accents are decidedly not imperial tho

this goes outside sci-fi obv too

certain british accents are decidedly not imperial tho

-- rrrobyn, Thursday, 14 June 2007 09:23 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

So, like, is that why the lawyer dude is Irish rather than, say, English? Coz the bro is tortally not imperialist? He's just busting out some "justice is blind" bullshit, but he's still, like, part of teh imperial tenticles whoa.

?

I demand all future bad guys to have Parthian or Hunnish accents.

um yeah there was this thing called the Roman Empire that the British Empire was rather deeply endebted to.

in terms of being called "an empire"?

sorry, I meant

um yeah in terms of being called "an empire"?

oh, inverted comma

i think cylon xena just has an australian accent, if only a slight one
and there are plenty of canadian accents masquerading as 'neutral' or something

,,empire,,

um yeah, Xena is a ,,kiwi,, but she might be doing a bit of strine.

I meant ,,strine,, obvs

ohnoes i totally mixed up aus and nz! i even know the difference
oh well
accents

I actually thought she sounded more Australian than Kiwi on BSG anyway.

that's like mixing up brooklyn and queens accents

somehow accents on tv don't sound like accents in real life though

that's like mixing up brooklyn and queens accents

-- cutty, Thursday, 14 June 2007 09:52 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Dude! Grossly offended etc.

i've never seen a people more sensitive about accents than the aussies/kiwis

south africans probably have some issues

um yeah in terms of being called "an empire"?

well sure yeah plus in terms of government, language, ethnicity, history, foreign policy ad infinitum

well sure yeah the government of british empire plus a lot of other governments in the history of the world? this is just because it's "an empire"?

well sure yeah the language has a ton of words derived from latin plus their alphabet but is a completely different language. especially when you have italian and spanish and french and stuff. it's not like britain was like "looks like this will be an empire soon--let's talk more like the romans". unless you mean the romans led the way for germanic people and their language or that some of the language of government ("government") is derived from latin? like it isn't everywhere else

well sure yeah there were roman guys in britian plus a lot of invaders and migrants of different ethnicities, incl. the anglo-saxons and norse, who far more affected the ethnicity of the founders of the british empire. again, a lot of other places are far more decended from the romans than the british

well sure yeah the history plus the history of europe and the world. come on

there is a similarity between the roman empire and the british empire only in v general terms. your terms are v v v v general and not good

in terms of intention, wouldn't you prefer the nazi germany or even the holy roman empire? all the people that wanted to rule the whole of europe when the british empire ruled a ton of places but

america probably has more in common w/ the roman empire than the british empire did

America has plenty in common with the Roman Empire, and one of the reasons it does is because there's a clear historical line from Rome -> England -> America. The entire concept of representative government administered by a complex and centralized bureacracy is Roman in nature - England borrowed heavily from it throughout its history. I can't believe you even wanna contest the language thing, considering the other examples you mention as influencing English are all LATIN (ie, ROMAN) languages.

unless you mean the romans led the way for germanic people and their language or that some of the language of government ("government") is derived from latin? like it isn't everywhere else

Yeah, they totally did, and no it is not like that everywhere else. Europe /= the entire world.

get one Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, or Cicero, or jesus any history book.

like when the camera flies about in space and zooms in on a particular ship and I think "am I supposed to be thinking about this being filmed by a person that is in space?

when you watch a shot of two people talking in a room do you wonder WHO ELSE IS IN THE ROOM WITH THEM filming the scene?!? whoah - mindblowing!

when you go to the movies do you check behind the screen for the actors?

the external shots of the burrowing capsule thing in The Core - ROFL

considering the other examples you mention as influencing English are all LATIN (ie, ROMAN) languages.

yes, I wasn't giving examples of languages that have influenced english but romance languages that latin has influenced more than it has english. the same way I was giving examples of why the british empire, in particular, is not especially like the roman empire

there's a clear historical line from Rome -> England -> America

you like the unuseful/simplistic sweep. an unclear historical line that passes through those three as well as many more. also, you think they named a character gaius and made sure it was a man w/ an english accent playing him as a nod to the connection between the roman empire and british empire

when you watch a shot of two people talking in a room do you wonder WHO ELSE IS IN THE ROOM WITH THEM filming the scene?!? whoah - mindblowing!

yes, that's the same

get one Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, or Cicero, or jesus any history book.

nice try, btw

you like the unuseful/simplistic sweep.

seems pretty useful to me in that it helps explain some of Baltar's unique characteristics, among other things.

you think they named a character gaius and made sure it was a man w/ an english accent playing him as a nod to the connection between the roman empire and british empire

I like the ext. shots, with the crash zoom with a little bit of pan & tilt to focus on the action. For me, it helps with immersion & reality(if you will), like there's actually a dude operating a camera filming real ships blasting at each other.

rjg have you read Ulysses.

I know someone who has

You know someone.

that's right

By MICHAEL HINMAN
Source: SyFy Portal
Jul-15-2007

They aren't exactly Webisodes like fans got with "The Resistance" last year, but SciFi Channel is taking a similar route in an effort to promote the upcoming "Battlestar Galactica" telemovie "Razor."

The network plans to air an eight-week series of shorts lasting between two and three minutes that will give fans some background on the original Cylon-Colonial War, featuring scenes of a young William "Husker" Adama as a Viper pilot, according to a press release by the network.

The mini-episodes will premiere in October during the network's primetime schedule, and will star Nico Cortez as the young Adama, who discovers a weapon that will provide the backdrop for the upcoming telemovie featuring the Battlestar Pegasus.

SciFi Channel announced that "Razor," which will be made available on DVD a short time later, will air on the network Nov. 24. The shorts, written by Michael Taylor and directed by Wayne Rose and Felix Alcala, apparently were part of the original script that were cut because of time from the final movie, a source tells SyFy Portal. The scenes featured in the promotional cuts will be included in the uncut movie release on DVD as part of the overall movie.

Not only will the mini-episodes be aired on SciFi Channel, but they also will be part of the network's Web site as well, almost making them Webisodes, but just not quite.

According to the network, the telemovie will feature Apollo's (Jamie Bamber) first days in command of the Pegasus, which took place chronologically in the show's second season. It also stars Michelle Forbes, who reprises her role as Adm. Cain.

"Battlestar Galactica" is expected to premiere its fourth and final season in 2008.

The Young Bill Adama Chronicles

razor leaked

yep! stoked.

im in the middle of the 2nd season and this shit is SO GOOD and i cant actually read this thread for fear of spoilers but GODDAMN do i love it

o rly>??

next season delayed till april :(

I saw that they are playing Razor in a few theatres.

wow, that was not good.

worse than the last season?

i thought it was ok.

It basically felt like a standard second-rate sci-fi show. Predictable, unfascinating... Without anything that would have possibly made me "tell all my friends".

wait are you talking about Razor or the show in general?

Anyway...this definitely had a "side story" feel to it. It mostly just fleshed out stuff you already knew about the Pegasus back story. The only things of true interest were the Cylon bits, especially towards the end with *SPOILER*the hybrid creature's warning about Kara and the reappearance of the old Centurion models*END SPOILER*. It's definitely more or less fiLler until the next season starts (fucking APRIL ARRRGGHHH!).

I mean Razor.

SPOILERS
Yeah, ok there was an interesting but opaque tidbit with reference to next season, but overall it played out like JAG-in-space or something. Flashbacks are almost always a lame vehicle for extended action, and I felt like the script was reverse-engineered for a) the chance to show lesbian Cane (oh look! heartless butch lesbians! how uncliched!); b) the chance to show old centurion models.

The "hybrid" thing was to me vague, implausible, and boring. (<I>That's</i> the Cylon "god"!? Some lost, middle-of-nowhere half-man guarded by easily defeated antiques? Unless you add some tragedy to that, some commentary on it -- so lame.) The shooting of the civilians was horribly scripted and shot, so move-of-the-week. I liked the shooting of the XO but that had been telegraphed so far in advance. The suicide at the end was so low-stakes because we knew Kara couldn't die. In fact, the whole thing was so low-stakes because we knew exactly how everything turned out. One of Battlestar's greatest strengths (other than the nuances of its scripted stories) is the way it isn't afraid to pull the rug from under your expectations, and here everything just trotted out as it was exposited, essentially, a whole season ago. It didn't even widen the Galactica world: I don't feel I was exposed to a new section of society, or new kinds of voices. Just another steely, flawed officer, and some clueless red-shirt civilians.

super disappointed. can't see how this story was exciting enough for Ron Moore (or the network!) to want to invest all this time and energy. would have been a filler episode during an average season, and in no way justified the special care or attention.