Insomnia.

monday night i took my pain meds for my back, naproxen, vicodin and flexiril and didn't fall asleep until 4am. I can't take my sleeping pill if i want to wake up in the morning after taking pain meds.

maybe i'm nuts, but that is a lot of drugs, no?

ambien has been working for me, and i am very thankful, but i can tell it makes me like...wobbly. it's kind of embarrassing.

Be careful -- even if you don't run outside and try to drive a bulldozer off a construction site, you might find that the time between taking the med and actually falling asleep is a big black hole that you can't remember the next day. Pretty much harmless as long as you take it while in bed with a book or w/e! Just don't try to discuss anything important.

Also YAY SLEEP!!!

yeah thats a crapload of drugs for my back. but i didn't take my sleeping pill. my back is a mess.

Yeah, I feel better, and that's good, but i'm still swirling in chaos otherwise
kinda sleepwalking through life

y'all will probably hate me for posting on this thread since i'm usually a good sleeper, but my mind was racing from like 3:30 until ? (i think 5:30 or 6:00) this morning after i got up to get a drink of water. i knew what i was getting into, guess...once i stand up it's all over.

my brain was trying to figure out what to do with this song i'm working on, and once it what it thought was a good idea, it was afraid to fall asleep and forget it.

i also haveOCD and ADD, so if i don't take my OCD meds, my mind races uncontrollably.

jordan - do you keep pen/paper on your bedside table? that's kinda fun. i've been trying to find one of those little headlamp/book lights that are enough to see a book or w/e but not too bright to wake the neighbor so at least i can read without standing up/waking anyone (humans and dogs).

yeah that's a good idea. and i'd love to be able to read in bed without worrying i'm keeping my gf up.

i have one of these and it's pretty good - can be awkward to hold if you don't have the right sized book, though.

A, do you wear glasses at home/at night/to read? I see you with a little high-tech clip-on light that goes on one temple of yr glasses.

Unfort the only non-military-esque version I can find online actually stands up like a little E.T. on your nosepiece, and seems like it would be right in your line of sight 100% of the time.

i don't wear glasses or corrective lenses

but i that thing sounds like the device in THE JERK

scratch that i

but dang that movie is so funny
maybe i should just watch the jerk when i can't sleep

I don't know what THE JERK is, but all the "LED glasses" items I can find also come with some degree of magnification in the lenses. Pooh.

pretty tired

at least i'm not burping demons, i guess

you know, THE JERK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI8NuFAETMQ

the new phone book's here! the new phone book's here!

Here's a full-spectrum reading light that goes in a neck pillow, I kind of like that.

it's 02.25 and I have important work stuff @ 09.00 but I'm reading fuckin SB threads fml

is it true for other insomniacs that alcohol fucks your sleep up? i basically drank myself to sleep for years, but everyone says that it's 'bad sleep'. i think i like solid 6-7 hrs bad sleep to a few hrs of restless, waking 'good sleep' though...

^ but tbh used to it by now

xp sry.

never felt like drunksleep was worse sleep, ime

drunksleep better than no sleep imo but I'm not going to start drinking at 2.30a.m. with work in 6 hours.

definitely worse sleep ime
if i drink enough i may fall asleep faster, but i don't stay asleep

you should read something really really boring onimo, like govt documents

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that my important thing to be up for!

even if it's from other govts? try reading, i dunno, ohio state senate proceedings or something. it's REALLY boring.

i've been trying boring reading instead of drinking when i wake up in the middle of the night. probably had the most success with hegel so far

other govts are now running us, its partly why i'm awake tbh.

yeah get 2 work you, make my money speak.

drunk sleep is my only good sleep, pretty much. current state: not drunk. think i'll go watch futurama dvd commentaries till the resistance can hold out no longer.

FUCKING HELL.

I fell asleep about ten minutes after moaning on here :)

Reading govt documents = starting work early :(

I can't stay asleep if I drink, and feel even more rubbish in the morning than otherwise.

Lately my go-to sleep aid is a bedtime story on my ipod (In Our Time is also good, when available), and if I'm really jumpy a sudoku to occupy my hands and eyes.

It's very clear to me at the moment what my anxiety triggers are, and the extent to which they worsen my insomnia, which is hueg. Will never sleep well, but looking forward to being able to build yoga / meditation back into life so I can get the twitching back under control.

fwiw dudes if u drunksleep too often yr basically blunting yr body's ability to ramp down the nervous system

this is why u give benzos to alcoholics in withdrawal---remove the etoh and all of a sudden they've got an excess (of sorts) of stimulatory neurotransmitters, and they can't sleep (which is at the more benign end of things)

for the last week i have been waking up after like four hours, unable to get back to sleep. this is v. v. out of character for me and sux.

have a mug of hot milk and listen to william basinki

thanks for the science gbx. some questions:

could you define the following terms in more detail:

too often -- how often is too often iyo? daily? weekly?
ramp down the nervous system -- what does this mean in a non-dependent person?
etoh -- this is alcohol units? (i googled)

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so i guess i sleep exclusively in two hour bursts now? fair enough.

:( :( I would swap anything for a good night's sleep :(

yr liver?

im so bored & i cant sleep

have u tried listening to any chillwave

should have taken ambien with you

have u tried listening to any chillwave

yes, i am listening to c.wave right now

its p great

still not tired tho

wtf

i think i need ambien

the over-the-counter shit just makes me super groggy unless I sleep for like 13 hours

i've never taken sleeping pills, and i don't think i'd consider it now. but i've been sleeping only 3 -- 4 continuous hours a night for the past few days, and it's wearing me out.