Insomnia.

Here's a full-spectrum reading light that goes in a neck pillow, I kind of like that.

it's 02.25 and I have important work stuff @ 09.00 but I'm reading fuckin SB threads fml

is it true for other insomniacs that alcohol fucks your sleep up? i basically drank myself to sleep for years, but everyone says that it's 'bad sleep'. i think i like solid 6-7 hrs bad sleep to a few hrs of restless, waking 'good sleep' though...

^ but tbh used to it by now

xp sry.

never felt like drunksleep was worse sleep, ime

drunksleep better than no sleep imo but I'm not going to start drinking at 2.30a.m. with work in 6 hours.

definitely worse sleep ime
if i drink enough i may fall asleep faster, but i don't stay asleep

you should read something really really boring onimo, like govt documents

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that my important thing to be up for!

even if it's from other govts? try reading, i dunno, ohio state senate proceedings or something. it's REALLY boring.

i've been trying boring reading instead of drinking when i wake up in the middle of the night. probably had the most success with hegel so far

other govts are now running us, its partly why i'm awake tbh.

yeah get 2 work you, make my money speak.

drunk sleep is my only good sleep, pretty much. current state: not drunk. think i'll go watch futurama dvd commentaries till the resistance can hold out no longer.

FUCKING HELL.

I fell asleep about ten minutes after moaning on here :)

Reading govt documents = starting work early :(

I can't stay asleep if I drink, and feel even more rubbish in the morning than otherwise.

Lately my go-to sleep aid is a bedtime story on my ipod (In Our Time is also good, when available), and if I'm really jumpy a sudoku to occupy my hands and eyes.

It's very clear to me at the moment what my anxiety triggers are, and the extent to which they worsen my insomnia, which is hueg. Will never sleep well, but looking forward to being able to build yoga / meditation back into life so I can get the twitching back under control.

fwiw dudes if u drunksleep too often yr basically blunting yr body's ability to ramp down the nervous system

this is why u give benzos to alcoholics in withdrawal---remove the etoh and all of a sudden they've got an excess (of sorts) of stimulatory neurotransmitters, and they can't sleep (which is at the more benign end of things)

for the last week i have been waking up after like four hours, unable to get back to sleep. this is v. v. out of character for me and sux.

have a mug of hot milk and listen to william basinki

thanks for the science gbx. some questions:

could you define the following terms in more detail:

too often -- how often is too often iyo? daily? weekly?
ramp down the nervous system -- what does this mean in a non-dependent person?
etoh -- this is alcohol units? (i googled)

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so i guess i sleep exclusively in two hour bursts now? fair enough.

:( :( I would swap anything for a good night's sleep :(

yr liver?

im so bored & i cant sleep

have u tried listening to any chillwave

should have taken ambien with you

have u tried listening to any chillwave

yes, i am listening to c.wave right now

its p great

still not tired tho

wtf

i think i need ambien

the over-the-counter shit just makes me super groggy unless I sleep for like 13 hours

i've never taken sleeping pills, and i don't think i'd consider it now. but i've been sleeping only 3 -- 4 continuous hours a night for the past few days, and it's wearing me out.

have gone to this really strange sleep pattern of like 4 hours a night no matter how tired i am, which usually means napz and/or tiredness during the day

wow xp!

I think my brain hates me. Sometimes my thoughts will be dull as dishwater throughout the day when I need to be *creative* for work and such & then my imagination will go into hyperspeed when I'm trying to chill 4 sleepytime.

My solution for this (aside from lol booze) used to be to work at night, but sleeping all day just makes me feel like a deadbeat.

Thank god for planet earth/blue planet box set!

Going to stay awake until tomorrow evening, hopefully that'll make me sleep tomorrow night.

Planet earth has been there for me in moments of need for sure. Also Natl Geo docs on netflix streaming.

Wish i had Nat Geo on tap like that!

WHAT UP

me

i am up

i should be sleeping

the sleeping pill does nothing and i'm grindin my teeth and i'm hungry but aint got no food left in the house for a snack

why am i awake wtf

i don't sleep i drink coffee instead

Going to bed at 11, waking up at one, going back to sleep at four-ish, alarm goes off at half six.

Books, headphone music and jam & bread are the coping tactics now. Have given up on just lying there thinking 'I'm not asleep' and maybe getting angry.

this should not be happening
i felt alright for the last few nights, felt relaxed today
then i went to bed and read read read, no tired
then i just lost my tired and listened to "vuh" for 20 min, sounded like the inside of my head so i couldn't drift off
then i said fuck it and got up to see if having a snack and doodling on the internet could make me tired

...still here

i just hope to be in bed by 1, asleep shortly after
big presentation tomorrow :( (no wonder i'm awake)

yeesh, good luck. this especially happens when i've got big stuff the next day. even when i think i'm not worried about it it worms it's way in my head. so bogus.

i'm only up cuz i'm in the middle of 4 days off so wheee why not. i'm usually out by 9pm so this is like hour infinity to me right now. very @_@

that reminded me of a conversation i overheard between a woman and her child negotiating candy at the movie theather

mom, i want squirms
you are not eating squirms
MOM I WANT TO EAT SQUORMS

they're like radioactive gummi worms or something, i dunno

oh here they are
http://www.sqworms.com/images/img-1.png

i am now working nights again (until 2am). i try to get to sleep by 4:30 or so, but last night/morning i was up until 8.

h8 birds btw

and doodling on the internet *never* makes you tired

the only really useful trick i learned during my year or so of severe insomnia:

get into bed! don't do anything! get as comfy as you can, close your eyes and think about pleasant, enjoyable things. just try to relax. even if you don't actually sleep, just getting a few hours of total relaxation is good and will leave you feeling better in the morning.

wait do they glow
xxp

justine is right btw.

tho sometimes fifteen minutes of fresh air to clear thoughts and ~then~ justine's advice is good.

sometimes this is good! but more often than not i get antsy/uncomfortable

xps