― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 6 March 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago) link
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Saturday, 6 March 2004 22:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 March 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 March 2004 22:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Andy K (Andy K), Saturday, 6 March 2004 22:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 March 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link
Anyway, as noted above, the version of "Station to Station" is just MONSTROUS -- hands down one of Bowie's best numbers ever. It, "Warszawa" and the spectacular version of "Breaking Glass" were the three tracks from Stage that appeared on the original teaser Sound and Vision box from 1989 which heralded the reissues -- my eighteen year old self was blown away and eagerly looked forward to the full reissue, only to be a little disappointed with the rest of it. Still, it's been a while, might have to give a go again.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 March 2004 23:04 (twenty years ago) link
― LondonLee (LondonLee), Saturday, 6 March 2004 23:33 (twenty years ago) link
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000635M.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
and i seriously doubt that stage is worse than david live.
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 6 March 2004 23:53 (twenty years ago) link
Alex, I seriously think you got your David "Coke" Bowie live records mixed up. David Live suffers from mediocrity and coked up urgency that undermines the performances.. whereas Stage soars.. in my opinion. Also, did Bowie clean up right around Station To Station/Young Americans anyway?
― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 6 March 2004 23:56 (twenty years ago) link
first, stevie ray vaughan; and then, charlie sexton. 80s bowie sure had a weird thing w/ rootsy texas guitarists, no?
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 6 March 2004 23:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 7 March 2004 00:00 (twenty years ago) link
The thing that really bugs me about Hendrix is the way that he's always asking me questions. "Are you experienced?" No. "Have you ever been to Electric Ladyland?" No - I didn't even know that studio was still around! "Can I stand next to your fire?" No! I paid a lot of money for this fire, and I'd rather not have you vomiting all over it. (A TRUE conspiracy theory = A. Jimi Hendrix was afraid of his manager, who had been linked to the mafia and the CIA. B. The amount of alcohol in Jimi Hendrix's stomach was more than a human being could drink in the time period it would have taken to cause his vomiting death; in other words, the wine was FORCED down his throat. C. Jimi Hendrix's manager made more money from releasing postmortem Hendrix releases than he ever made while Jimi was alive. IT'S TRUE! I heard it from a source of questionable reliability!). So whenever I'm in the mood for some good old black person funky rock music with SOUL, I turn to David Live.
I bet you're thinking to yourself, "Gee, I've never heard anybody make that argument about this album before." Well, that's because IT'S NOT FUCKING TRUE!!!! WHY THE FUCK HAS "THE GREAT WHITE MORON" DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO TAKE GREAT OLD GLAM CLASSICS LIKE "REBEL REBEL," "SUFFRAGETTE CITY," "ALADDIN SANE" AND "ROCK AND ROLL SUICIDE" -- AND COMPLETELY REMOVE EVERY SEMBLANCE OF "MELODY" THAT THE SONGS EVER HAD?!?!?!?!!? DOES HE HONESTLY THINK THIS IS "SOUL" MUSIC BECAUSE HE'S GOT THE "MEDIOCRE WHITE DUKE" DAVID SANBORN PLAYING A SAXOPHONE? OR BECAUSE HE TOLD THE GUITAR PLAYER, "DON'T PLAY THE ACTUAL MELODIES. JUST PLAY REALLY REALLY LONG SOLOS THAT DON'T GO ANYWHERE"? OR BECAUSE HE'S WEARING A STUPID WHITE "MATURE" SUIT AND REDUCES THE VOCAL MELODIES TO HIS MISGUIDED APPROXIMATION OF "SEXY" HALFASSED SPEAK-SING? THIS ALBUM IS A PIECE OF SHIT ALL DRESSED UP LIKE A FANCYPANTS! LOOK AT THAT DUMBASS PHOTO OF HIM ON THE COVER!!!!
NOW FOR THAT PHOTO TO HAVE APPEARED ON THE COVER MEANS THAT MR. BOWIE MUST HAVE LOOKED AT IT LONG AND HARD AND THOUGHT TO HIMSELF, "MAN, I LOOK REALLY GOOD WITH MY TIMELESS WHITE SUIT AND "SHORT IN FRONT, LONG ON THE SIDES" HAIRCUT. AND THAT LOOK ON MY FACE? I LOOK LIKE A FULL WEEK OF NONSTOP ASSFUCKING HAS CREATED A BACKUP OF HARDENED FECAL MATTER IN MY LOWER INTESTINES! AWESOME! LET'S GO WITH IT!"
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 7 March 2004 00:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 7 March 2004 00:06 (twenty years ago) link
Having said that, David Live (to my ears much more cokey than Stage) is my favorite regular Bowie live album, though that may very well change once I’ve seen the Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars DVD I bought today...
(x-post: Eisbär; hilarious review! I do love that album though...)
― willem (willem), Sunday, 7 March 2004 00:13 (twenty years ago) link
Oh don't get me wrong, man. I know there was still a Himalayan-sized mound of coke involved with David Live, but by then he'd renounced his love for Kraftwerk and Teutonic Totalitarianism in favour of polyester leisure suits and bullshit Philadelphia Soul (sorry,but I fuckin' hate that shit!)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 7 March 2004 00:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 March 2004 00:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 7 March 2004 00:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 7 March 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago) link
― omg, Sunday, 7 March 2004 01:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Sunday, 7 March 2004 01:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 7 March 2004 04:08 (twenty years ago) link
― johnson & johnson, Sunday, 7 March 2004 04:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 7 March 2004 05:34 (twenty years ago) link
Beyond that, I quite enjoy the longer "Breaking Glass", prefer the "TVC-15" to the original and love the hyper-fast version of "Hang On To Yourself."
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 7 March 2004 08:08 (twenty years ago) link
― LondonLee (LondonLee), Sunday, 7 March 2004 14:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Sunday, 7 March 2004 20:39 (twenty years ago) link
― thesplooge (thesplooge), Monday, 14 June 2004 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link
i agree the whole thing gives an accurate picture of gigs that were events that posed down the conventional rock shows of the time (eg bruce springsteen) in the "european [whatever] is here" fashion art sense -- an elaborate some-greatest-hits show that still presents bowie as continuing metamorphosis, the futuristic art fashion performance taste thing, which he did keep up for a few more years
― george gosset (gegoss), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 01:05 (nineteen years ago) link
long story short: picked this one up b/c of this thread. i like it well enough -- better than given credit for (as i thought it would be). i also liked the berlin-bowie-"rethinks"-ziggy-bowie thing going on here.
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― erik, Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Eisbär, exactly how is Station to Station "in no small part gamble-huff as conceived by a coked-up space-alien"? I get the latter part, but hear me no real traces Gamble and Huff in there...
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link
incidentally, i have demo bootlegs of three YA songs and all are better than what ended up on the real album, theyre less produced, more spontaneous, and dont have that higely annoying gaspipe sax in every single song, in every crevice of open space.
― splooge (thesplooge), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Keith Watson (kmw), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― splooge (thesplooge), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― splooge (thesplooge), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Keith Watson (kmw), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― splooge (thesplooge), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link
But the "Station to Station" was utterly incredible, with the protracted intro chugga-chugga section and Belew wailing all over it. I wasn't familiar with it at the time but certainly made note of the 'the side-effects of the cocaine' line for sure. It might have even been better than the Stage version, I'm not sure.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― splooge (thesplooge), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link
Stage has also resequenced the tracks in their original concert running order.
― Jeff K (jeff k), Friday, 4 March 2005 00:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Disc 1:1. Warszawa2. Heroes3. What In The World4. Be My Wife - Previously Unreleased5. Blackout6. Sense Of Doubt7. Speed Of Life8. Breaking Glass9. Beauty And The Beast10. Fame
Disc 2:1. Five Years2. Soul Love3. Star4. Hang On To Yourself5. Ziggy Stardust6. Art Decade7. Alabama Song8. Station To Station9. Stay - Previously Unreleased10. TVC 15
― Jeff K (jeff k), Friday, 4 March 2005 01:16 (nineteen years ago) link
I've been hunting a live bootleg of Bowie in '76 from which the Rykodisc reissue extracted live versions of "Stay" and "Word on a Wing" - both spectacular. How readily available?
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 4 March 2005 01:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 4 March 2005 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 4 March 2005 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, the studio"Beauty and the Beast" may we'll have been the track that started it all for me. The introduction of Fripp's Sky Saw guitar is just so unbelievably alien, followed by the pounding piano and rhythm section building to a crescendo before the verse comes crashing in is an all-time moment for me.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link
In other words, what Fripp said.
"Are you listening to "Beauty and the Beast" or are you just glad to see me?"
― willem, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link
"Oh! Oh!"
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 20:10 (eight years ago) link
having had the ryko cd for so long, all those 'rock' tracks on heroes have always sounded kind of messy and tinny and weird to me.
― akm, Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link
This was my 1st Bowie album.
― WilliamC, Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:30 (eight years ago) link
xp really think the 2000s reissue/remix/rework is an improvement over all earlier versions
― tylerw, Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:32 (eight years ago) link
Is this album called STAGE because of the Elvis album ON STAGE?
― Starman Jones said it's 2 legit 2 quit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 January 2016 00:24 (eight years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b0/On_Stage_February,_1970.jpg/220px-On_Stage_February,_1970.jpg
― Starman Jones said it's 2 legit 2 quit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 January 2016 01:14 (eight years ago) link
that's half a heroes pose!
― niels, Friday, 22 January 2016 10:00 (eight years ago) link
eheh. indeed not far from the heroes cover !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 22 January 2016 10:08 (eight years ago) link
and on Bowie RIP thread was suggested a rumour that Elvis had reached out (?) for Bowie to produce an album for him
― niels, Friday, 22 January 2016 10:25 (eight years ago) link
there's this part during an interview with Conan where he was talking about Elvis (starting at 1:10) ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4d8QrRJvsE
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 22 January 2016 10:31 (eight years ago) link
musically, I could imagine something circa young Americans/Station to Station.
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 22 January 2016 10:32 (eight years ago) link
lots of fun clips in that one
― niels, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:01 (eight years ago) link
(xpost) I imagine more like Bowie's version of "God Only Knows," i.e. not good.
― Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:04 (eight years ago) link
― niels, Friday, January 22, 2016 5:25 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I imagine this sounding like Scott Walker's Nite Flights tracks. Elvis was still in peak voice in '77, and likely eager to get off the treadmill -- sobriety in Berlin with Bowie would've done him a world of good. But the Colonel wouldn't have entertained such an idea for more than half a second.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:26 (eight years ago) link
come on, "golden years" IS an Elvis track !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:27 (eight years ago) link
hey yeah that actually makes sense
― niels, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:33 (eight years ago) link
ahah, this is so lame !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPdGVbxqtCE
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link
Not clicking, think I already listened to something like that.
― YOLO Versus Powerball on the Moneygoround, Part One (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:08 (eight years ago) link
Love this video of Bowie skulking about the Hansa studio playing/recording "Sense of Doubt":
http://youtu.be/IocSP9Mp-Dk
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 23 January 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link
Think it's safe to suggest that had Bowie released The Gouster instead of YA it would have been more of a novelty/cult classic than YA... it's... kinda boring?
― niels, Friday, 30 September 2016 12:29 (seven years ago) link
yeah, I was curious about that, having no idea what it was all about, but it's just some kind of alternate YA (no better nor worse, afaic).there's something else that grabbed me on the new compilation. it's the StS 2010 Harry Maslin remix : what's that ?It's really different from the original mix.
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 30 September 2016 12:58 (seven years ago) link
yeah sry should have posted in the RIP thread, the Maslin mix is mentioned there - apparently it's more in accord with Bowie's original vision or smth?
― niels, Friday, 30 September 2016 13:27 (seven years ago) link
And it's TVC15, not StS, isn't it? I don't have the reissue to check
― willem, Friday, 30 September 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link
it's the whole album ! (yeah, I guess it's not the proper thread to discuss that)
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 30 September 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link
Oh yeah it is the whole album! (It's on spotify)
― willem, Friday, 30 September 2016 14:02 (seven years ago) link
http://www.network54.com/Forum/8980/thread/1474856664/last-1475166652/Station+To+Station+%28Harry+Maslin+mix%29
I found this discussion about it. I haven't listened to the whole remixed album yet but I did notice that the drums were further in the mix and sound very different.and many new things appear (like the "TVC15" intro, etc).
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 30 September 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link
Hadn't heard of this Maslin mix, listening to TVC now. Piano is pushed so far forward it sounded like a Professor Longhair record at the start. (A reference point I never picked up on before.) Will have to spend time with the rest.
― Wants to impose Sriracha law in America (Dan Peterson), Friday, 30 September 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link