Electronica: I just dont get Fennesz, K. Drumm?

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I don't tend to reward putdowns.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 31 December 2004 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link

MindInRewind, I think you mean if they're not predisposed to be open to liking it, as philip mentioned. There are many things that I now like that I didn't immediately latch on to. The cotton swabs, they help sometimes.

mike h. (mike h.), Friday, 31 December 2004 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Meister never said he wasn't open to liking Fennesz and Drumm. He wanted to like them because he'd obviously heard good things about them.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 31 December 2004 05:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I read a lot more condescension in that post, but hey, maybe that's me.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 31 December 2004 05:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I was trying to think of the first electronic music record I heard but I can't remember - if someone asked me which electronic record to listen to first I probably say you should turn on the radio. As far as trying records...keep reading reviews and looking out for things, maybe ask yourself as to what else you like and try and look out for a crossover record (but even then a stylistic fusion is different from a procedural fusion).

as far as genres go...basically theare are all these fancy connections between them so I find that buying records released this year from a genre and going back isn't so bad, as developments on one genre which you haven't heard are easier to take in bcz they are paralleled in a genre which you have.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 31 December 2004 13:57 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah but you're an aggresive twunt hstencil.

Ki, Friday, 31 December 2004 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link

heh, well my first answer was serious, mr. anonymous.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 31 December 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

meister, maybe you could give us more of an idea of what you're looking for? Beats? Tunes? Something danceable? Intricate or spazzy stuff?

As for Fennesz and Drumm, one thing to keep in mind is that some of us like the sound of radio static. Also, if you listen closely, you might start to notice how the sounds (which may just sound like aimless noise initially) are shaped and combined. And you might start to notice that there often still are melodies and rhythms; they're just not as obvious as in more pop-oriented stuff.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 31 December 2004 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Ulrich Schnauss.

jenn Kane (satellitesynth), Friday, 31 December 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

(And Ned's suggestion of "Transit" is a good one. Drumm is much harsher and more extreme than Fennesz BTW. If you are looking for something in the more abstract/textural vein but that's a little less difficult than these, maybe you could try Boards of Canada's Geogaddi or Aphex Twin's Selected Ambient Works II?)

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sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 31 December 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

i'd recommend 'fire in the forest' off david sylvian's blemish as a starting point for fennesz (it's just a much better song than 'transit' IMO).

a, Friday, 31 December 2004 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link

> some of us like the sound of radio static

This is the crux of the matter, Meister. There really is no accounting for taste. If you can find little of worth in the recordings of Fennesz and his ilk, just move on. It's not your bag, but there's plenty of other stuff that will be.
Try Orbital (the Insides album is their best), BT or Underworld. Kraftwerk are wonderful, Tangerine Dream had their moments, and going back even further in time, I recommend T.O.N.T.O.'s Expanding Headband and Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Co.

Palomino (Palomino), Friday, 31 December 2004 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

i'd recommend 'fire in the forest' off david sylvian's blemish as a starting point for fennesz (it's just a much better song than 'transit' IMO).

I'd say both are equally excellent but the way "Transit" functions both as a conventional song (in terms of verse/chorus structuring) and a superb arrangement of noise/static/feedback gives it the edge for me. Also, I heard that one first. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 December 2004 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i heard 'fire in the forest' first - 'transit' is good, the choruses just feel a little forced to me.

"Transit" functions both as a conventional song (in terms of verse/chorus structuring) and a superb arrangement of noise/static/feedback gives it the edge

that probably stems from the way they were assembled: 'fire in the forest' = song first, arrangement second, 'transit' = a song written to fit an arrangement.

a, Friday, 31 December 2004 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

Thanks for that. Going to buy that album because of you.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 23 October 2016 04:11 (seven years ago) link


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