scientology & celebrities

scientology.org is down again

This YouTube video explains a lot about what Tom Cruise was saying in that video clip.

What do Scientologists believe? I'm talking not the periphery of their views -- like they can help people get off drugs, become spiritually aware, and so forth -- but their core religious beliefs. Do they, for instance, believe in a single G-d similar to Christians or Jews? Do they, as I've heard, believe in aliens populating the Earth?

You'd figure that a quick internet search would reveal this, but I haven't found anything that squarely and fully answers these questions.

And so I ask you, ILX'ors. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

a nation shakes its head and hopes that it raised its children well.

So, are 4chan hackers idiots going up against all this, or heroes? I think idiot, but what do I know rly.

also, chick corea WTF ;_;

He's been a Scientologist for, like, over 30 years. Some of the Return to Forever LPs from the seventies have dedications to L. Ron Hubbard. And Stanley Clarke is/was a Scientologist too, the liner notes of his School Days from 1976 give "special thanks" to Hubbard as well.

So, are 4chan hackers idiots going up against all this, or heroes? I think idiot, but what do I know rly.

I LOL'd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQ

Serious business!

And Stanley Clarke is/was a Scientologist too

so wrong. he went to a couple classes and decided it was bullshit. he has even spoken out against it.

Why did he thank Hubbard on his album then? The liner notes in School Days say "special thanks to L. Ron Hubbard for being an inspiration to me". I'm glad he realized Scientology is humbug, but it doesn't sound like he just took a couple classes and decided it was bullshit.

these guys took down The Sun as well apparently, because "They enraged /i/ when the forum censored truth that the parents of Madeleine McCann murdered her."

4chan dudes are goobs, but hey, if they get the job done they get the job done.

Why did he thank Hubbard on his album then? The liner notes in School Days say "special thanks to L. Ron Hubbard for being an inspiration to me". I'm glad he realized Scientology is humbug, but it doesn't sound like he just took a couple classes and decided it was bullshit.

Maybe he just liked the dodgy sci-fi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiqmvWZg-qs

Even seriouser business! Scarier, with a deeper and more menacing voice!

Chick Corea's famously on a live album with the Incredible String Band, Mike Garson & Woody Woodmansey all celebrating LRH's 9 millionth birthday or something. As an Incredible String Band fan I can assure that hours of fun can be had deciphering their albums (and solo albums) for Sc'ology references - they're crammed full of 'em - hell, LRH, even sneaked on to the cover of one of their albums if you look closely enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOkOEltl678

I just got this GINORMOUS box of books from Bridge Publications! There are at least 20 different books on Scientology in there. They are seriously wasting Will Smith and Tom Cruise's money by sending all of these books to libraries that are in all likelihood just going to pitch them.

S.O.P. with outfits like that -- they figure any publicity = good publicity. But Jack Chick probably gets better results with less expenditure.

Well, he at least knows the length of a religious craziness tome to keep people's attention all the way through. (24 tiny pages w/pictures vs 1000+ pages of lord knows what)

haha

"HOLY DICK /i/ IS DOWN! IT'S ON MOTHERFUCKERS! BRING BACK /i/ HALP HALP!"

retaliation?

http://donkeyscientology.ytmnd.com/

Bart gives http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23136785-5001026,00.html1m to Scientology (and gets an award in return)

Oops...try this instead...

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23136785-5001026,00.html

More info here...
http://www.hollywood.com/news/Nancy_Bart_Simpson_Cartwright_Gives_10_Million_to_Scientology/5057516

Including the news thatr Kirstie Alley gave them $5m. She still got some money in the bank then?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/webscout/2008/02/protesters-asse.html

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/webscout/images/2008/02/10/img_0098.jpg

Melbourne protest was pretty well attended.

why are they all in disguise?

Co$ is not kind to those who criticize it

what exactly could the church do to them?

"If there will be a long-term threat, you are to immediately evaluate and originate a black PR campaign to destroy the person's repute and to discredit them so thoroughly that they will be ostracized." — L. Ron Hubbard, 30 May 1974, "Confidential - PR Series 24 - Handling Hostile Contacts/Dead Agenting"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology)

Yeah stalking, harrasment, all kinds of crazy shit. I have friends who've had it happen.

what exactly could the church do to them?

-- Ste, Monday, 11 February 2008 10:01 (23 minutes ago) Link

http://www.whyaretheydead.net/room771.html

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/webscout/2008/02/protesters-asse.html

haha i saw this going on yesterday! i shouted "we love you xenu!!!" out the passenger side window.

What a frigging stupid, asinine cult. Boiling a guy alive in a bathtub? Damn.

I know this is huge but it's worth it:
http://pics.livejournal.com/7chanlawlz/pic/000062p1

so gonna happen

wow scientology's enemies are so formidable. they must be SCARED.

nice to see some 4channers getting out of the house for a little while

UK teen summoned to court for using the word "cult" to refer to Scientology.

"A policewoman later read him section five of the Public Order Act and "strongly advised" him to remove the sign. The section prohibits signs which have representations or words which are threatening, abusive or insulting."

That's illegal in the UK???????

you know whats fun about scientology? the rich people.

The City of London police came under fire two years ago when it emerged that more than 20 officers, ranging from constable to chief superintendent, had accepted gifts worth thousands of pounds from the Church of Scientology.

see!

I'm shocked you can get arrested just for saying something insulting in the UK. Sounds like 1984

Well it's a blatant misuse of the law - I'm fairly sure the law was introduced to prevent incitement to racial hatred and the like. But yeah you can be arrested/fined for swearing in public, which is total bullshit.

The poor Scientologists apparently believed that the use of the word cult was "threatening", and hence invoked the Public Order Act. But yes, a flagrant misuse of the law.

Steven Poole has a good take on it all here:
http://unspeak.net/cult/

If you live in France, you can call “Scientology” a cult or secte with impunity, because that is how it is defined in law. And as a point of fact, the “Church” of “Scientology” is not a religion under UK law either.

Yes, this is astonishing. Especially as there is another demo vs. the cult in Tottenham Court road where the same banners don't seem to get the same reaction. Different police force though, this was the City of London and that's the Met (iirc).

And one doesn't want to get all conspiracist or anything but there is this..
Gala dinners, jive bands and Tom Cruise: how the Scientologists woo City police

At the lavish ceremony, Chief Superintendent Kevin Hurley, the fourth most senior officer in the force, praised the scientologists for the support they had provided after the July 7 attacks

Oh, sorry didn't see Poo's post upthread. So yeah, what he said...

By "support" I suppose the City of London Police meant "attempts to take advantage of bomb victims", yes?

praised the scientologists for the support they had provided after the July 7 attacks

Yes, I remember that, they were out on the streets in force helping to drum up membership for their ridiculous cu1t Londoners to cope with the stress induced by the terrorist attacks. I remember, there was a FAP and, on the way there, and I noticed them.