amateurist, i have a question,

corporate ninjas!

it's a totally weird mess, yeah, but i love how strange and absurd the whole thing is.

actually i probably dislike some other peckinpah films more, but this one disappointed me most.

1. Casablanca
2. Apocalypse Now
3. Harold and Maude
4. Pillow Talk
5. His Girl Friday
6. Fantasia (original)
7. Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown
8. Seventh Seal
9. Star Wars (the first one released, in 1970s)
10. Jesus Christ Superstar

I can't remember the ones I hate.

seventh seal?

but yeah when i saw the title, the killer elite, i thot how cld this be bad? but 1ce i saw it ws peckinpah i kind of understood

Ten, for today -
Beau travail (Denis)
Cat People (Tourneur)
Pierrot le fou (Godard)
Dead Ringers (Cronenberg)
The Crying Game (Jordan)
Andrei Roublev (Tarkovsky)
Mildred Pierce (Curtiz)
A Woman Under the Influence (Cassavetes)
Nostalghia (Tarkovsky)
Léo en jouant 'dans la Compagnie des Hommes' (Desplechin) FIND ME A COPY ON TAPE PLZ!

Least -
True Lies (Scott Seward OTM, shrill, sexist, stupid, offensive in every possible way)
Bottle Rocket
Magnolia
12 Monkeys
Wild At Heart
Seul contre tous
Le fabuleux destin d'Amelie Putain Poulain
American Beauty (MASSIVE HATE!!! makes me angry just thinking about it)
julien donkey-boy
La collectioneuse
Lock, Stock..
I think I hate Lars von Trier but I haven't seen any of his movies. I hate Kubrick, I see the art in what he does, but I hate it. I really need to see more Bresson films, some more of Abel Ferrara, and about ten films by Fassbinder.

Much love for Office Space and Big Lebowski (best thing the Coens ever did). Fight Club is fascinating, I used to think the ending was such a cheesy fairy tale cop out and it kind of is, but then, Marla is the one who doesn't really exist and Ed Norton doesn't get to date Brad Pitt any more, so maybe it's not so have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too after all.

i like von trier but cried at dancer in the dark so idk where the false moves are

i find that dismissal of true lies astonishing but otherwise im kind of w you, i mean, rublev is inscrutable and everything

true lies! so terrible.

haha yeah if its offensive in every possible way, and terrible. it might even lag! i like when arnold talks to ppl

I was yelling at True Lies in the theater it made me so mad, and I was like 15 at the time, I think.. there was nothing to do in my town, somebody dragged me out to see it.

There are a number of films I should've listed in the sense of "these are great films," but I was thinking let me just put a lot of the split personality psychosis type of stuff.

More..
Peau neuve (Emilie Deleuze)
George Washington (David Gordon Green)
Ratcatcher (Lynne Ramsay)
Trouble Every Day (Claire Denis)
La captive (Akerman)
Les glaneurs et la glaneuse (Agnes Varda)
Nha fala (Flora Gomes - GO SEE if you can manage to find it)

Gordon Green's films are never as good as I want them to be.

whats that other ramsay movie, the mixtape suicide one, is it ok? agree w milo altho ive only seen george washington, faraway theater, felt like i ws waiting there, moving my eyes, but green is good in the sun huh? glaneurs is so great

xpost to 007 - Seventh Seal is an Ingmar Bergman film, with the famous scene where the knight plays chess with death.

Morvern Callar is the mixtape suicide one. I love it, but my opinion was very much in the minority at ILE from what I remember.

Gordon Green's dialogue frustrates me to death - so many pregnant pauses that don't deserve the weight he gives them, and then the Malick-aping that matches his visual poetry but never integrates as well with the story. But then he tells such an incredible story visually and gets great performances otherwise that I can forgive him to some degree.

haha no i know i just thot it ws unwatchable. i like fanny and alexander a whole lot. i havent really fucked w bergman that much, i like when hes sentimental, or on relationships, i guess

milo 1ce again otm

omg i hated hated hated natural born killers. gabbneb otm

but robert downey jr!

Most
Scorpio Rising (Kenneth Anger)
Bad Boys II (Michael Bay)
When the Applause Died (Nick Bougas)
The Ladies' Man (Jerry Lewis)
The Birds (Alfred Hitchock)
L'Argent (Robert Bresson)
Kapunga Island (George Kuchar)
To Live and Die in L.A. (William Friedkin)
Star 80 (Bob Fosse)
Unsere Afrika Reise (Peter Kubelka)
Least
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2003 remake
You've Got Mail
What Dreams May Come
Amarcord
Hannibal
Forces of Nature
Great Expectations (Ethan Hawk-Gweneth Paltrow)
Life Aquatic

i was actually going to post this on the ILX dreams thread, but my first-ever ILXor-related dream last night involved amateurist asking me if i wanted to see his favorite movie with him!

my can't-think-very-straight-at-the-moment list:

the umbrellas of cherbourg
imitation of life
blue velvet
cries and whispers
a woman under the influence
annie hall
umberto d.
children of paradise
robocop
window water baby moving

can't think of a hate list right now

TEDDY OTM

idk abt life aquatic, i havent seen it, but youve got mail boy oh boy

joe, cries and whispers, theres probably a bergman sd but i like this thread. has ppl seen scenes from a marriage, persona, wild strawberries and on? i 1ce saw persona clipped in a doc and it looked so incredible, vs the grainy vhs i thot i saw wo air conditioning. i havent seen him championed locally, might be unfashionable, but like i sd i like 1 movie

what are we talking about here, i just saw theodore fogelsanger's list, this isn't favourite films, is it?

...is it?

oh shit i misread, meant to say youve got mail is awesome, teddy your wrong. still, to live and die in la, sounds fantastic

persona and wild strawberries both wonderful, haven't seen scenes... the only bergman films i haven't terribly liked have been the seventh seal and winter light. and i need to see a better version of the magician before i pass judgment.

haha yeah i ws all, here is a guy who likes the birds and also gwen so maybe aquatic is in fact ok and ppl are reacting in bold to some hate, misplaced

and cries and whispers also, its abt a family, coming apart, maybe cancer im imagining?

bad boys 2?

actually the michael bay caught my eye but i love late meg ryan romcoms, esp youve got mail and kate and leopold. french kiss is ok. do yall realize dude who made kate and leopold not only made cop land but also girl interrupted but also forthcoming johnny ca$h joaquin movie? i wonder if, identity, the movie, is worth sh!t

gear i forget if you like bb2, from probably a scarjo thread, or that it ws like miccio. i havent seen it. i like maybe only the rock, im going to check, but ill take any mbay love. i think accusing him of eg music video editing is totally misplaced, other shit cld be more valid yeah

huh yeah i only like the rock. i must like that movie alot. a, remember when. if heaven for me is a rock faceoff drivein dbl feature w dbl decker cheeseburgers and skates i hope i dont get bored

The Rock is good but it's all about the acting. it's like Bay's directorial instincts in that are totally opposed to the weird dialogue and acting.

Bad Boys II is shit but better than the first one.

you guys have GOT to see the island

dont forget solemn ed harris scenes! but yeah the rock is kind of screwball and longtake in a roundabout way and nicks beatles girlfriend really worked for me as a teenager or preteen depending on the release. ive been dreaming the island as buscemi w a belly and ewan on some selfparody and i will see it trust me

i actually was really into the rock when i saw it (in paris!!) but since then he's totally left me cold (armaggedon) or faintly disgusted (bad boys 2, pearl harbor), or, more recently, bemused (the island)

when i saw the rock it ws just dope there existed a motorcycle, tall metrox willowy director and i had a piggy bank for the like $150 laserdisc and now i think the great thing is there just arent that many explosions, and still all the sf and traz baggage and locations. my mouths watering at some slight of hand, baffling michael b yeah, lost in the silicon grap

also in re true lies, i hope its obvious, yes i do think its fun to watch and geniunely funny, and sexy, at times, but also interesting insofar as what it does that isnt done anymore, its often apologetic, i think, and insofar as terrorism, skyscrapers. tia. it isnt unique but its early w current events. that is i kind of really dig its um innocence lost aspect, dont think this thread is really abt discussing shit that is conventionally good exactly, but abt taste, i like movies when theyre social

i dont even know if stupid is a pejorative at this pt

genuinely too

when i say a movie is stupid i tend to be talking about poor story construction!!

yeah that makes sense, i dunno, i mean im all for praising a movie that like comes together or full circle or smthng formal or even gimmicky at the end but there are so many things that bother me abt shitty movies beside the arc that i dont think abt it, stupidity, in that context, but really i dont know what you mean by story construction, altho id like to! and yeah i realise i just wrote, shitty movies, as if it ws well agreed upon, i just mean the ones i scoff at or something, shit w daniel day lewis etc

stupid v thoughtless, maybe?

[...]
ratcatcher
the sacrifice
ginger snaps
[...]

aliens!

aliens is like doing for instance shots and instead of wincing at the alcohol in yr mouth you feel it swimming i mean laps, waving in your belly, like the drank ws ahead of u buckling up, seat belts, ready to drill in

i went to the internet and there are alot lot of sacrifices

say a thing abt ginger snaps!

picking one i love from each decade that hasn't yet appeared on the thread, just to make it more fun for me:

-- A Trip to the Moon
-- Les Vampires
-- Pandora's Box
-- Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
-- Laura
-- Eyes Without a Face
-- Yojimbo
-- Cabaret
-- My 20th Century
-- Cyclo
-- Dogville

(tip of the hat to those who flagged The Thin Man, Bringing Up Baby, Mildred Pierce, Late Spring, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, and Over the Edge before me)

I can't do most hated of the top of my head, and devoting time to trying to think of things I hate seems like a waste. But Natural Born Killers would be on the list, I'm pretty sure.

GYPSY OTM. ASIDE FROM KNEEJERK NBK SHIT

i mean, i dunno if its straight dismissable, like that. but i like dogville and les vampires. and reluctantly eyes wo a face if its not like i have to agree its the best 50s movie. also um, im pretty indifferent to 7 sam and ran. am i being a dick, is there meat, a moist like well wetness, to kurosawa, to yojimbo, or is he for ppl whod rather see movies as photography and remember the title vs the pose

007 i hope i don't sound like a film snob dick cos i'm really not, honest, but please explain why you've got mail is awesome and kurosawa is for people who [whatever you said, i don't quite get it].

i mean YOU'VE GOT MAIL? if you'd said spiceworld was better than seven samurai i'd be like "right on," but come on!!

haha maybe its a usa thing and ive maybe only seen it in passing but i remember treasuring youve got mail so much and really automaticlally putting it past shop round the corner. theres such a percentage chance its down to a meg ryan hairstyle too. spiceworld is also great of course. but also i mean, i own seven sam, im staring at it, cross, i regret it. ive made kids buy the kuro lot cuz theyve ben like, intricately or nudgingly into akira, im still kind of buying his rep, just never liked anything, remotely

but yeah, i guess no one here has defended or advocated kurosawa, w meat, fuck him